Mom charged in baby’s death after off-duty cop crashes into car at 94 mph

[Swordsmyth]

The death of her child is more than enough punishment for the "crime" of not using the seatbelt for the kid.

They just want to charge her to make the Kop look less guilty.

 

[Schifference]

I believe it is safer to be in an automobile without a seatbelt than on a motorcycle with a helmet.

 

[Ender]

Hopefully you realize how extremely rare a case like this truly is. The odds are astronomical. I have never once seen this to be the case in all that I have worked. And I would be honest if I had ever seen it even once.

People have also been suffocated by airbags while belted in a wreck.

The answer is that this should not be a law & we should have the choice.

 

[ATruepatriot]

Vehicle fatalities fell at the same rate in countries that didn't have mandatory seatbelt laws in place as those that did. So....

With all due respect nice Lady, It is your thread and if you have convinced yourself of this then I respect this. But I have been on the front lines of reality in this particular topic and the reality is ugly. About now is when I used to link to the reality in this discussion. I had to stop doing that because no one wants to hear or SEE that reality and I got banned for it. So I'm going to bend to your opinion.

 

[Ender]

Vehicle fatalities fell at the same rate in countries that didn't have mandatory seatbelt laws in place as those that did. So....

Montana did an experiment & took away speed limits for a time- accidents went waaaay down.

 

[ATruepatriot]

People have also been suffocated by airbags while belted in a wreck.

The answer is that this should not be a law & we should have the choice.

And I actually respect that for what it is for a consenting adult... But this child did not have that choice, and the mother did not have 2 minutes to spare of her own time. But adding to the punishment at this point is just rubbing salt in a wound that will already punish her for life. I do hope they take this reality into account, I am sure at this point no one could punish her more than she is already punishing herself.

 

[ATruepatriot]

Montana did an experiment & took away speed limits for a time- accidents went waaaay down.

A lower incident of accidents is unfortunately not less severity of the accidents that do happen.

 

[TheTexan]

With all due respect nice Lady

She's not a nice lady if she's advocating having a choice of wearing a seat belt or not.

She basically wants people to die.

 

[ATruepatriot]

She's not a nice lady if she's advocating having a choice of wearing a seat belt or not.

She basically wants people to die.

I disagree, consenting adults should have that right if they like. A minor who doesn't understand needs to have someone make a more sane choice for them as protector and responsible party.

She has always been nice to me...

 

[oyarde]

I would be willing to kick in a couple bucks for this ladies defense fund .

 

[nobody's_hero]

I think of how much parents have to do to keep their kids restrained in vehicles these days, and I wonder how I ever survived to adulthood.

When I was young, you got a car seat for an infant and when you got too big for that you pretty much went straight to the big people seat. Nowadays you have to get a new car seat every year or so to keep up with the size of the child, and kids are required to be in booster seats almost until they're adults.

The death of her child is more than enough punishment for the "crime" of not using the seatbelt for the kid.

They just want to charge her to make the Kop look less guilty.

In all seriousness, ^^^ you're probably right.

 

[ATruepatriot]

I think of how much parents have to do to keep their kids restrained in vehicles these days, and I wonder how I ever survived to adulthood.

When I was young, you got a car seat for an infant and when you got too big for that you pretty much went straight to the big people seat. Nowadays you have to get a new car seat every year or so to keep up with the size of the child, and kids are required to be in booster seats almost until they're adults.

I grew up with nothing but a lap belt. And in those days a lot of folks lost their lives because they had no shoulder belts. When shoulder belts were implemented fatalities were greatly reduced. But the current carseat situation you speak of is an absolute total scam. They have gone WAY over board with micromanagement and are now just satisfying a market and sales based on extortion. Requiring a carseat is one thing, this detailed crap is absolute BS.

 

[Schifference]

I think of how much parents have to do to keep their kids restrained in vehicles these days, and I wonder how I ever survived to adulthood.

When I was young, you got a car seat for an infant and when you got too big for that you pretty much went straight to the big people seat. Nowadays you have to get a new car seat every year or so to keep up with the size of the child, and kids are required to be in booster seats almost until they're adults.




In all seriousness, ^^^ you're probably right.

I grew up riding in the back of pickup trucks and station wagons without any seats. Heck I remember sometimes people would get into the trunk if we were not going to far. This is back in the days when it was considered an accident if you got into an accident while driving drunk.

 

[ATruepatriot]

I grew up riding in the back of pickup trucks and station wagons without any seats. Heck I remember sometimes people would get into the trunk if we were not going to far. This is back in the days when it was considered an accident if you got into an accident while driving drunk.

I did too, but it didn't mean it was very wise. I myself was bounced out of the back of a pickup on my head at four because my own Mom had absolutely no sense, and I lost a couple childhood friends who fell out at 60. Point is they were all preventable with a little common sense. Do I think my Mom should have been charged? Absolutely, Dad told her to put me in the front and she just gave him the finger.

 

[TheTexan]

Do I think my Mom should have been charged? Absolutely

+rep did your Dad report her? If he didn't, he's just as guilty as she was

 

[Schifference]

I did too, but it didn't mean it was very wise. I myself was bounced out of the back of a pickup on my head at four because my own Mom had absolutely no sense, and I lost a couple childhood friends who fell out at 60. Point is they were all preventable with a little common sense. Do I think my Mom should have been charged? Absolutely, Dad told her to put me in the front and she just gave him the finger.

Suppose a person needs to get cross country and a guy stops and offers to let them ride in the back of his truck. Should that be illegal? Should an adult be allowed to do a risk reward analysis and determine if getting cross country was important enough to justify riding in the back of the truck?

 

[ATruepatriot]

+rep did your Dad report her? If he didn't, he's just as guilty as she was

Believe it or not... he was the only local law at the time in our very rural area. She gave him the finger and drove away with me in the back. He should have thrown her ass in jail after but didn't. So I suppose you are right... He was just as guilty for not doing it. Guess he wasn't ready for the divorce yet, that came a few years later for the same crap.

 

[ATruepatriot]

Suppose a person needs to get cross country and a guy stops and offers to let them ride in the back of his truck. Should that be illegal? Should an adult be allowed to do a risk reward analysis and determine if getting cross country was important enough to justify riding in the back of the truck?

Again... I think if a consenting adult makes this choice they should be able too. If you are not worried about getting sue because something happens head on, your decision. I only have problems with children who cannot asses this risk with common sense for themselves.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Again... I think if a consenting adult makes this choice they should be able too. If you are not worried about getting sue because something happens head on, your decision. I only have problems with children who cannot asses this risk with common sense for themselves.

Older children aren't a problem in my opinion as long as the driver isn't crazy, I and my cousins road in the back of the truck many times and nobody was ever in danger.

 

[TheTexan]

Again... I think if a consenting adult makes this choice they should be able too. If you are not worried about getting sue because something happens head on, your decision. I only have problems with children who cannot asses this risk with common sense for themselves.

Are you looking for a job? I know some people at CPS, you sound like you would be a great fit.