Mitt Romney's Cash Problem

This would be an issue only if Mitt was not perfectly capable of funding his entire campaign himself.

There are even worse optics this time around if he returns to self funding his campaign. The media and non-Romney GOP establishment will lampoon him about it.

Nobody seriously expects his campaign to actually run out of money; the issue is how it alters the campaign narrative. Continued strong fundraising from Ron during a period of relative drought for Romney can only be positive.
 
At this rate, Ron Paul might have more money than Romney. Then I guess Romney will use his personal money until he becomes a pauper.
 
If Romney can't run away with this while spending much more money than anyone else, how could he expect to do well when he is outspent by the Obamanation? We don't need a neocon as the nominee.

For such a "real world" businessman he sure is blowing through the cash.

That's true, but that really isn't the point. Money drying up is a bad sign when it comes to momentum.

It's the perception. I think it will be an issue.

There are even worse optics this time around if he returns to self funding his campaign. The media and non-Romney GOP establishment will lampoon him about it.

Nobody seriously expects his campaign to actually run out of money; the issue is how it alters the campaign narrative. Continued strong fundraising from Ron during a period of relative drought for Romney can only be positive.

I agree, this is exactly why we all need to support the Official Campaign's Final Push to Super Tuesday Money Bomb and donate in the next 48 hours.

Remember, the Campaign needs lead time to place TV/Radio Buys for the last 7 days leading up to March 6th.

If you can, Donate Now!!!

That pretty much covers it.

There are lots of reasons why even for someone with as much personal money as Willard this is still bad news.
Which means now is the time we should push donations and get out the vote efforts are more key now that ever (yeah, maybe we've all heard that before but heading into Super Tuesday with the race like it is can anyone really say now is not a key time?)
 
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Yup, as several news stories have mentioned, he spent a great deal of money beating Ron Paul in NH and Newt Gingrich in FL. Ron Paul was so smart to not compete in FL.
 
Well...it is right before super tuesday, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was just buying advertisements in every single state. Radio, television a couple weeks ahead of time could cost that much money. Also, since Romney is worth hundreds of millions of dollars, I don't think he will every run out of money like Santorum might. But, I'll try to stay optimistic. :P
 
It's about the momentum and what implications that has for the bigger picture.
Some of Obamas supporters can already smell the blood in the water
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The question is how many of the GOP will wake up to this fact in time to respond to it before the general when (if nominated) mitt could sink any reality of a chance to unseat Obama
 
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I don't know why Romney is wasting all of his money. He's not getting elected, even if he wins the nomination. Like 10% of the population at least stands by Paul no matter what.
 
Things just keep looking better and better. Romney is the only threat in this election, so if he's spending $18 million in a month and still losing to Santorum, that's great news. We need to hold out as long as possible, and keep racking up those delegates... these other candidates could collapse at any time
 
Well...it is right before super tuesday, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was just buying advertisements in every single state. Radio, television a couple weeks ahead of time could cost that much money. Also, since Romney is worth hundreds of millions of dollars, I don't think he will every run out of money like Santorum might. But, I'll try to stay optimistic. :P

Believe me, he will continue to lose money when he continues to lose!
 
I mostly agree with the "Anti-Romney" strategy, but that strategy works best when it works early. To take it to extreme, what happens if we do become the lone anti-Romney candidate while the delegate count is 800-100 in favor of Romney? He'll be too far ahead for it to matter. I think the only way to be the anti-Romney is to FIRST win a contest, somewhere... and THEN force the other two idiots out of the race.
Yes, it made sense early, but it no longer does. We are facing that 800-100 scenario on the path we're on, I'm afraid. While I never count Dr. Paul out, what does the media do to assist Mitt in that scenario? It will become all about Romney vs. Obama, with occasional breaks for Ron Paul "the pest", "the gadfly", the "thorn in the side". :rolleyes: Romney's cash problem will go away once the GOP grudgingly accepts him as the nominee. The Adelsons out there will start giving to him.
 
Yes, it made sense early, but it no longer does. We are facing that 800-100 scenario on the path we're on, I'm afraid. While I never count Dr. Paul out, what does the media do to assist Mitt in that scenario? It will become all about Romney vs. Obama, with occasional breaks for Ron Paul "the pest", "the gadfly", the "thorn in the side". :rolleyes: Romney's cash problem will go away once the GOP grudgingly accepts him as the nominee. The Adelsons out there will start giving to him.

That is why we must make a U-Turn on our strategy and launch a full-out attack on Romney asap, while he is low on funds. This is the perfect time to strike while he is on his knees, lets finish him!
 
That is why we must make a U-Turn on our strategy and launch a full-out attack on Romney asap, while he is low on funds. This is the perfect time to strike while he is on his knees, lets finish him!
Agreed. I've been calling to attack Romney for weeks now. I hope the campaign has some kind of plan formulated for taking him out soon.
 
Romney's cash problem will go away once the GOP grudgingly accepts him as the nominee. The Adelsons out there will start giving to him.
Point of clarity they can only give to a Romney PAC (beyond the max for personal donations). Yes this is still money that will go towards supporting Romney but it's not equivalent to having actual campaign funds in his official coffers.
And as has been mentioned this is as much about the implications as about the literal dollar amount involved in the situation.


More generally, with 1187 delegates up for grabs (overlooking how long the state conventions are from the opening Caucus days) total before April 1st the 800 delegate lead scenario implies that all the other candidates combined only net 387 during the 34 proportional contests which take place. That already seems unlikely but even if those remaining 387 delegates were divided evenly between the three other contenders that still give them 129 delegates each and thus Romney still doesn't have a 800 delegate lead.

More to the point there are only 833 delegates in question from all states between Super Tuesday and April 1st. So even with his current delegate count the scenario outline essentially assumes that in proportional electoral contests Romney wins (not just places first) almost all of essentially every contest upcoming.

Perhaps I'm alone in this but that simply doesn't strike me as plausible. (consider that several of the upcoming states are from a more southern bloc which it is conventionally accepted Romney is weaker in and both Newt and Santo tend to Poll well in) If someone has information or statistics that show it is a realistic possibility and would like to educate me on how such a thing has a realistic probability of actually happening I'm open to reading links if posted.

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Additional: Since Paul clearly has taken a number of swings at Romney at various points during this race, and in light of Three of a Kind which clearly attacks Romney and bundles him in with the others as a in it for himself big government politician, I'm wondering what specifically would qualify as 'attacking Romney' enough that those who are calling for attacks on Romney would feel satisfied? And what shapes would those attacks take specifically? (And is right before more southern states come up really the time to focus on hitting Romney rather than others in the race that are in many ways positioned to do better if they're not dealt with?)
 
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this is kind of good news, and shows how soft support Romney has.
but he can still pump his own money anytime he wants since the Presidency is at stake.

about the Anti-Romney strategy, I dont know how much longer it will take for the people to realize that Paul is the only Real conservative in the race and start voting for him ?
Maine was a great chance to win and we lost by less than 200 votes, so the not-winning meme is still there.
Initially I thought we had a good chance in Washington, but now the polls( which are not that accurate for caucuses) seem to show otherwise.

What are the winnable states on Super Tuesday ? And what IF we dont win any on that day too ?
 
this is kind of good news, and shows how soft support Romney has.
but he can still pump his own money anytime he wants since the Presidency is at stake.

about the Anti-Romney strategy, I dont know how much longer it will take for the people to realize that Paul is the only Real conservative in the race and start voting for him ?
Maine was a great chance to win and we lost by less than 200 votes, so the not-winning meme is still there.
Initially I thought we had a good chance in Washington, but now the polls( which are not that accurate for caucuses) seem to show otherwise.

What are the winnable states on Super Tuesday ? And what IF we dont win any on that day too ?

Things are very hard to call in this race, the polls are all over the place and the methodologies are less representative than they have been in other cycles (because the electorate is behaving in unprecedented ways), I could ramble on with the "know one can know for sure" disclaimer but I think we all know the drill so I move this along.

Based on the information I have the two most likely wins on Super Tuesday, as far as I can tell, are Idaho, and North Dakota.
My conclusions in both cases are less derived from any polls (I honestly haven't been watching them that much at this point because of how skewed they've been this cycle) but from donation information and "ear to the ground" reports coming out of the region.
In both cases my greatest concern is the Get Out The Vote effort, in short will it be successful enough. If we can get the majority of our supporters to the caucus and involved they should in essence be a lock but getting people there and involved has been shown to be a challenge in this election.
That's the 'straw poll' side of the win, the delegate side is if anything more optimistic however there's a stumbling block there as well and that's in short "more of the same" meaning the same type of things we've faced from party "insiders" since 2008. If those who are getting into position to be delegates have done their homework and have the proper support then we'll blow through those roadblocks if not we could have the whole rug pulled out from under us (much like NV in '08).

Super Tuesday Sates

Broad strokes, if the elections were held today: (see list for special notations and more specific Paul considerations)
Southern states lean Santa/Newt
Northern states are more Romney territory
ID & ND as mentioned above.

Alaska
Georgia
Idaho
Massachusetts
North Dakota
Ohio -- Ohio is a battle ground state in more ways than one and without a decisive front runner could be anybodies ball game.
Oklahoma
Tennessee -- There's some grassroots talk about ways to pull off a victory here, sounds promising but I'd need to see more info before I give it too much weight
Vermont
Virginia -- Paul vs Romney heads up contest, taking this will be an uphill battle unless there are Newt/Santa voters backing us to take down Romney but it might happen Romney isn't beloved there either.

The big wild card is the "anyone but Obama" and to a somewhat lessor extent the "anyone but Romney" votes. They are the most fickle this election and in state by state polling the most likely to not finally decided until just before they vote, they're also between ~23-47% of the electorate depending on state and as such whoever picks up a majority of them will gain a major boost to their numbers. If Santa or Newt drop before Super Tuesday I think it helps Paul (at least on balance) but I don't know how likely that is to actually happen. All things considered March is going to be a very interesting month indeed.
 
Why is everyone saying to attack Mitt Romney?? Makes no sense. His supporters would simply go to Frothy or Grinch.
 
I don't know why Romney is wasting all of his money. He's not getting elected, even if he wins the nomination. Like 10% of the population at least stands by Paul no matter what.

Judging by the amount of people responding in the Gary Johnson thread that they will vote for him if RP not nominee, I'm not so sure. He mentions Ron's name in a speech and all of a sudden he's a good guy? Soft support.
 
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