Mitch McConnell hires Jesse Benton to run his 2014 re-election bid

Can't wait to hear Benton at a press conference speaking in favor of extrajudicial drone strike assassinations.
 
Good for Jessie. Ron Paul went further this year and helped change the debate. Rand Paul is a United States Senator and is beginning to change the debate on foreign policy inside the caucus.
 
You're saying that the number of people who can name one campaign manager from the past 50 years is fewer than the number of people who can name Ron Paul's most recent campaign manager?

Logically, how does that work?

Alright you got me on a typo on the last one. Its still near none.
 
Those things help persuade the voters and get them out; but voters are the ONLY reason one is elected. Are you actually agreeing with the person I replied to that claims those donors and supporters are the ONLY reason?

What are you attributing the success of other liberty candidates to then? Certainly wasn't the MSM, certainly wasn't the mainline GOP. Sure they aren't strictly the ONLY reason but their actions played an enormous role
 
Hmm I would say Ron Paul got a lot more supporters as a total number than supporters he had existing prior May of 2007 vs. May 2007 to today, not sure how this can be proved either way, but I think it would make sense if you talked with those that experienced the before and after.

Ron Paul did bring new supporters into the process there is no denying that. Some of them are going to be in it for the long haul and some of them were only here for Ron Paul's nomination race. But my point was that there are a lot of people who have been at this long before Paul ran in 08. In fact most of the candidates that are supported here in one way or another have been active in politics long before 08. So when I speak of the 10 to 1 number I threw out there, I was speaking of activists versus voters. Our county GOP is strongly libertarian leaning, and all of the folks sitting on the committee have been there and/or been involved for far more than 4 years.
 
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For you maybe. He wanted in the McConnell type camp AS he torpedoed Ron. McConnel will only vote our way if there is a real threat to his seat. Expect him to toe the line until midterms, then back to the neocon he is. I guess we know why he was in the RP tribute video at the convention, now don't we? Thanks, Benton.
 
It's very understandable to want to try and sink Jesse and MM - but that's not going to be a positive endeavour. Put efforts into a productive outcome for desirable results.

Like realtonygoodwin said, this is the best solution for anyone's grievances:

either Jesse goes and sinks MM's campaign based on his results and past performance with RP, or he's the one who will work in the pit of vipers with the rest of the egotistical political types and help Rand's chances and issues in the future (since they're kinda allies). Not that Jesse could give a crap about Liberty, whatever that means to him.

It's a win win!
 
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What are you attributing the success of other liberty candidates to then? Certainly wasn't the MSM, certainly wasn't the mainline GOP. Sure they aren't strictly the ONLY reason but their actions played an enormous role

Well I'd give the actual candidates some credit and let's not forget their message. But in the end, the ONLY thing that gets you elected are the voters.
 
Why do I feel like I'm being brainwashed, just a few years ago we saw MM as the worst of them, now we are going to be asked to support him?

This is straight out of 1984, lol, "We've always been at war with Eastasia".

No one said we had to go with Jesse, heck I doubt he's ballsy enough to even ask us to come with. His days with C4L were numbered.
 
Can't wait to hear Benton at a press conference speaking in favor of extrajudicial drone strike assassinations.

But..but...but we need to have extrajudicial drone strike assassinations so we can work with the GOP and make them our friends...c'mon man, just play along; extrajudicial drone strike assassinations aren't all that bad, I'm sure McCain supports them and we all know he is an excellent American
 
It's a perfect example of establishment not being in touch with the grassroots. Benton is essentially loathed by the liberty (grassroots) movement now and Mitch picks him up believing Benton will help him with the grassroots. lol! Over and over the politician reveal themselves as the morons they truly are.
 
It's a perfect example of establishment not being in touch with the grassroots. Benton is essentially loathed by the liberty (grassroots) movement now and Mitch picks him up believing Benton will help him with the grassroots. lol! Over and over the politician reveal themselves as the morons they truly are.

If only someone would take a moment and research Jesse's reputation, they would understand. very out of touch, aren't they?
 
Anyone consider the possibility that RP had the shits of Benton's treatment of the grassroots and asked him to resign and this is a big FU right back to Ron? Stranger things have happened. Can't wait for Doug Wead and Tom Woods' take on this...
 
Well I'd give the actual candidates some credit and let's not forget their message. But in the end, the ONLY thing that gets you elected are the voters.

I had a dream last night that I was cooking you a porkchop on a grill. That's it.
 
Well I'd give the actual candidates some credit and let's not forget their message. But in the end, the ONLY thing that gets you elected are the voters.
I disagree. Donations, canvassing, phone banking, advertising, etc., all factor into GOTV efforts. Every candidate must reach more voters with these efforts than his/her opposition to be effective.
 
Ron Paul did bring new supporters into the process there is no denying that. Some of them are going to be in it for the long haul and some of them were only here for Ron Paul's nomination race. But my point was that there are a lot of people who have been at this long before Paul ran in 08. In fact most of the candidates that are supported here in one way or another have been active in politics long before 08. So when I speak of the 10 to 1 number I threw out there, I was speaking of activists versus voters. Our county GOP is strongly libertarian leaning, and all of the folks sitting on the committee have been there and/or been involved for far more than 4 years.

Hmmm those numbers still don't make any sense IMO, I would bet money that the liberty movement got a lot more than a 1to10 ratio of existing activists vs. 2007 activists that are going to stick around for the rest of their lives just in 2007 alone.
 
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