Mistakes Ron Paul Made In Debate

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First. He failed to show the hypocrisy of those who say they are pro life and yet favor a preemptive attack on aq country that has never threatened us or attacked us, especially with nuclear weapons.

Second. The question relative to Bush's worst failure. His answer should have been more precise and definitive about going into Iraq and forgetting all about Osama bin Laden. If he ants to show his strength and win lots of voters here in the South Jersey-Philadelphia area, he NEEDS to stress his desire to go get bin Laden. Most Americans deep down want his ass either dead or languishing in our worst prison being the wife of Bubba the rest of his days.l The Bush administration has out sourced our capture of bin Laden to Muscharif who has incidently made a deal with the tribal leaders where bin Laden is, to leave them alone if they leave him alone effectively doing nothing to get bin Laden.

Third.
We've heard a million times how our interventionist foreign policy costs us money and erodes our position of respect in the world, but he needs to stress how constant war is also costing us our liberty. The police state issue in connection to the constant war is a real hit home matter with freedom loving Americans who see our freedoms disappearing and Ron Paul is THE strongest on that issue.

Fourth. Ron Paul is also THE strongest on border security and he needs to make his points very clear while stressing security first. But he failed to make it known how stupid it is for these other frauds to imply that when they speek of a verifiable ID for immigrants, that it cannot and will not ever work unless we all have to carry one with us when applying for a job and we won't be able to work if we don't have one. Its easy. If that wasn't the case and only immigrants would have to carry one and not citizens, then all they would have to say, is that they are a citizen so they don't need one right? How stupid do these people think we are? Ron Paul shouldn't let them off the hook that easy about the real issue, which is the REAL ID Act--National ID card that every man woman and child will have to carry some day if these globalists get their way. Again, he needs to hammer home his position on preserving our individual liberty and resisting the emergence of the police state. Its an underlying issue with lots of Americans and no one is talking about it unless they are trying to convince us to give up more liberty for security. Thats his strength and he needs to show it whether they give him the time or not in the next debate--IF they let him into it.
 
The on-camera persona during the debates is so radically different from his relaxed banter that he had with the crowd at NYC when we met him outside of the Daily Show studios; I wish there were some way to capture just how kind and gentle he was there while still hammering home the points of substance that he was saying at the debates. :(
 
I don't think Dr. Paul is good at putting on a show (one of the reasons I like him). I think he's probably immensely frustrated at what passes as conservatism at these debates, and that's why he seems a little stiff. In more relaxed interviews with him I've seen, he seems very candid.
 
The on-camera persona during the debates is so radically different from his relaxed banter that he had with the crowd at NYC when we met him outside of the Daily Show studios; I wish there were some way to capture just how kind and gentle he was there while still hammering home the points of substance that he was saying at the debates. :(

It appeared to me he was shaking and nervous.
 
Yeah, I think I agree with you guys on his persona. He was great on Daily Show and in interviews, he's charming and very likable and more real than any "politician" ( I hate to use that word when describing him) that I have ever seen. Somehow in these excuses for debates, he needs to colm down and make his point like he's talking to you and me, one on one. Thats a real strength he has. His honesty and realness. Well, when he's making his powerful points.
 
Like someone posted. He needs to answer all the questions on video and post it to youtube.

Yeah 5mins ain't jack for RP to answer just the questions given.
CNN is unfair on giving each candidate equal time.

BIG corporate media at it best! Boo to CNN!
 
X_805 is right. America needs a show during a sound bite like these things are. He was being too rational and professor like.

He should at least attack the problems caused by the neocons and how Bush sold ou the Presidency since most of America despises the neocons at this point and links them with the war. He just needs to emphasize how they are destroying the Constitution and turning the US into a police state.
 
Sometimes I think he gets frustrated trying to sqeeze his points in with the limited time he's given. When the morality question came up though, he nailed it beautifully with his response about nuking Iran. He showed a lot of passion, outrage even, and delivered his messaged clearly. That performance needs to be compiled into a "best of Ron Paul" video and put on youtube.
 
Like someone posted. He needs to answer all the questions on video and post it to youtube.
That was me. He needs to be relaxed, no tie, open shirt, smiling but thoughtful, and carefully answer the things from the debate. Also, it would be great then if the campaign would not only post those videos on YouTube but also let folks like me and plenty others download the clips so we can make our own "hit list" movies and upload them as well.

I really believe that, if we can start showing people more of Ron Paul in his real element, his humanity, intelligence, wit, humility, and complete non-contradictory philosophy will shine through.
 
Sometimes I think he gets frustrated trying to sqeeze his points in with the limited time he's given. When the morality question came up though, he nailed it beautifully with his response about nuking Iran. He showed a lot of passion, outrage even, and delivered his messaged clearly. That performance needs to be compiled into a "best of Ron Paul" video and put on youtube.

Hows this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhXoHCZZXWw
 
He seems best in one-on-one communication. Even on Bill Maher's Real Time, he didn't seem as relaxed as he was on The Daily Show.
 
He was given 5 minutes out of the 2 hours of the debate.

If I'd been Ron, I would have been dancing on top of my podium!! I was disappointed in the time allotted to each candidate and also at candidates who "pork barreled" the debate by refusing to yield time. I think it should be important to point out that as candidates who refused to yield and "listen" what makes us think they will listen to us?

I have to agree that once again he didn't get much time to articulate fully. However, he did get a bit of a momentum going toward the end of the debate. Once again, the momentum must continue. I wish we had some idea of how much he's raised. I hate to equate a campaign "solvency" monetarily, but lets be realistic, he DOES need the contributions to continue.
 
Ron Paul did fine, he's not a rehearsed candidate like Mitt (it's the vision thing) Romney or (My friends) McCain or a deranged authoritarian as (Authority equals Liberty) Guiliani.

But, what can you really say in 6 minutes when the duration is split up into 20-45 second bites?

I really "love" how McCain and Guiliani got to make speeches. Blitzer needs to grow some balls or get control of the mute button.
 
Have to add - I thought Tancredo did a good job on this debate. Also, some of the other Repubs are starting to mouth libertarian stuff. I think Dr. Paul is having an influence. Now about that Constitution.
 
When they see that Congressman Paul is creating a buzz, they will surely start to copy some of the things he says. The difference is from them its just talk.
 
Dr. Paul was great --- with what he got

Its not easy making a credible impact speaking 5 minutes and 50 seconds out of two hours, and being put at the far right end of ten speakers, out in Siberia, as it were, away from all the front runners, Dr. Paul did the best possible job that could be done with the questions he got. It would have been nice if the debate were ten minutes total to each candidate or some measure like that but remember.... a candidate can sink himself with his own words far more easily than he can boost his campaign. I think Romney undid himself talking alot like a blowhard. McCain is on the wrong side of the war, and if he gets the nomination he will surely lose in 2008, but his remarks on Spanish speaking voters and his candor about how he sees his job will resonate with many Republicans. His Caesar like claim that he will bring victory and glory in Iraq no matter how much blood, trasure or time it takes was truly disturbing and shows the man as a fatalist in the ancient tradition.

Dr. Paul appeared sharp, intelligent, and very clear in his views and of his regard for the Constitution.

He is being marginalized by the Republican establishment, true, but he is making great media moments.

I thought Fox was better in the second debate than CNN was this debate.
 
Another mistake I think Ron Paul made was not bringing up how many CIA agents, and the 911 Commission Report and bin Laden's fatwa against us supported his position as opposed to Rude Rudy's after the last debate. Instead, Rudy was allowed by Ron Paul to AGAIN parrot that old BS line about how they hate us for freedom. Ron could have struck a death blow and really embarrassed Rudy. Maybe its the kind doctor in him?
 
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