Missouri Police Report: RP supporters, Libertarians, anti-NWO movement are TERRORISTS

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

 

[btimsah]

You know our liberty is in danger when the FBI is "worried" about average citizens who actually "believe in the constitution".

CONSIDER ME A THREAT, FOR I CHOOSE THE PEOPLE OVER GOVERNMENT. I CHOOSE FREEDOM OVER TYRANNY! Consider me a threat. Yeah, look me up. I am a threat!

 

[CatherineBleish]

Because she is a republican?
If we can't depend on these guys to watch our backs.. we don't need them as friends.

It is some of their members - want me kicked out of the group. Their leaders are on our side, but I am concerned about the perception they have of us.

 

[newbitech]

private mail from the officer.com forum.

Molon Labe
I'm not a Militiamen, cop or service member, however I do know several on here (cops and military) has Molon Labe in their signatures and other places on their profile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molon_labe

The Greek phrase Molōn labe! (Μολὼν λάβε; approximate Classical Greek pronunciation [molɔ̀ːn labé], Modern Greek [moˈlon laˈve]), meaning "Come and take them!", is a classical expression of defiance reported by Plutarch in response to the Persian Army's demand that the Spartans surrender their weapons. It corresponds roughly to the modern equivalent English phrase "over my dead body", "bring it on" or, most closely, "come and get it". It is an exemplary use of a laconic phrase.

 

[CatherineBleish]

If they don't understand liberty isn't a left/right thing... we need to educate them.
If we can't reach them.. how can we reach anyone else?

That is my concern. I would like to see someone working intentionally to contact left wing groups about what is happening in Missouri and getting their support. I can help with this - email me at [email protected] if you want to help/take the reigns on this. I have ideas of who to contact just not the time to actually do right now - so many thigns happening.

 

[CatherineBleish]

Strategic plan to this point: http://www.libertyrestorationproject.org/2009/03/14/stand-up-missouri-a-plan-of-action/

 

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

private mail from the officer.com forum.

Went and check that forum out....

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115651

Should we cain criminals and illegal immigrants poll:
72% Yes...

Teen talks about jail-cell beating - thread
"The person I most feel bad for is Deputy Brunner. He was put in a very awkward position."

"Hope he gets to keep his job, as it sounded like he was a probationary employee."

Looks like they got some bad apples right in their own house... where is the memo?

 

[Aratus]

ron paul ran as a Libertarian in 1988 and now he's a Republican and has the option of doing another presidential
run. during the last election we saw chuck baldwin nudge out alan keyes, and bob barr nudge out several top
contenders including alaska's mike gravel. http://www.lp.org/ had keyes and gravel won the top slot
in both the parties, would the memo be more ludicrous or equally ludicrous? either way, and i'm inclined to think
its an equal degree of stupidity concerning a profiling. i am upset over the way things blanket brush people...

 

[Aratus]

a million voters voted directly for ron paul.
we are a nation of 330,ooo,ooo people. if
the very few hypothetical hotheads are
actually significantly statistically less than
a given randomized sampling of the general
public, then maybe the statistically higher I.Q
scores Libertarians tend to have does point
to how educated they are. brighter than the
statistical norm. perhaps more lawbiding than
the same. to blanket~brush the Libertarians
in the way the memo does is an injustice.
ron paul is now a leading contender for the
presidency inside the g.o.p and has distanced
himself from all hotheaded agitators and agent
provocateurs. he is not a fool. he tends to vouch
for chuck baldwin, and yes, mike gravel is now
part of the Libertarian Party and alan keyes is
the fellow who is a close second to chuck baldwin...

 

[cindy25]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/police-trained-nationwide-that-informed-americans-are-dom

http://www.prisonplanet.com/police-...formed-americans-are-domestic-terrorists.html

 

[ihsv]

Went and check that forum out....

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115651

Should we cain criminals and illegal immigrants poll:
72% Yes...

Teen talks about jail-cell beating - thread
"The person I most feel bad for is Deputy Brunner. He was put in a very awkward position."

"Hope he gets to keep his job, as it sounded like he was a probationary employee."

Looks like they got some bad apples right in their own house... where is the memo?

Those forums are full of statist, arrogant, authoritarian, "I'm-better-than-the-sheep", "love-my-guns-but-camcorders-should-be-outlawed thugs". They have no concept of liberty, individual rights, freedom, their true position in society, the Constitution, etc.

Granted, not all are like that, but I've seen enough on those boards to be given a serious jolt of reality.

 

[pcosmar]

Those forums are full of statist, arrogant, authoritarian, "I'm-better-than-the-sheep", "love-my-guns-but-camcorders-should-be-outlawed thugs". They have no concept of liberty, individual rights, freedom, their true position in society, the Constitution, etc.

Granted, not all are like that, but I've seen enough on those boards to be given a serious jolt of reality.

Reality check.
Boot to the head style.

 

[constituent]

Reality check.
Boot to the head style.

the baby seal treatment.

 

[Bruno]

Those forums are full of statist, arrogant, authoritarian, "I'm-better-than-the-sheep", "love-my-guns-but-camcorders-should-be-outlawed thugs". They have no concept of liberty, individual rights, freedom, their true position in society, the Constitution, etc.

Granted, not all are like that, but I've seen enough on those boards to be given a serious jolt of reality.

Just more evidence of why are 2nd Amendment rights are so important to protect.

 

[ItsTime]

Darn missed the phone call

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

Hits the MSM

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2009/mar/14/fusion-center-data-draws-fire-over-assertions/

Tim Neal of Miller County was shocked recently when he heard a radio program about a strategic report compiled by state and federal law enforcement agencies to combat terrorism.

Titled “The Modern Militia Movement,” the report is dated Feb. 20 and designed to help police identify militia members or domestic terrorists. Red flags outlined in the document include political bumper stickers such as those for U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, talk of conspiracy theories such as the plan for a mega-highway from Canada to Mexico and possession of subversive literature.

But when Neal read the report, he couldn’t help but think it described him. A military veteran and a delegate to the 2008 Missouri Republican state convention, he didn’t appreciate being lumped in with groups like the Neo-Nazis.

“I was going down the list and thinking, ‘Check, that’s me,’ ” he said. “I’m a Ron Paul supporter, check. I talk about the North American union, check. I’ve got the ‘America: Freedom to Fascism’ video loaned out to somebody right now. So that means I’m a domestic terrorist? Because I’ve got a video about the Federal Reserve?”

Blogs and Web sites frequented by people interested in civil liberties issues have been overloaded in recent days with comments from angry readers who view the document as a precursor to an American KGB spying on U.S. citizens.

“The government is out of control, we are just trying to survive,” wrote one poster who identified himself as John Adams.
But state law enforcement officials said the report is being misinterpreted. Lt. John Hotz of the Missouri State Highway Patrol said the report was compiled by the Missouri Information Analysis Center based in Jefferson City and comes purely from publically available, trend data on militias.

Hotz said MIAC, which opened in 2005, is a “fusion center” that combines resources from the federal Department of Homeland Security and other agencies. It was set up to collect local intelligence to better combat terrorism and other criminal activity, he said.
“All this is an educational thing,” Hotz said of the report. “Troopers have been shot by members of groups, so it’s our job to let law enforcement officers know what the trends are in the modern militia movement.”

The report’s most controversial passage states that militia “most commonly associate with third-party political groups” and support presidential candidates such as Ron Paul, former Constitutional Party candidate Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr, the Libertarian candidate last year.

Hotz said using those or similar factors to determine whether someone could be a terrorist is not profiling. He said people who display signs or bumper stickers from such groups are not in danger of harassment from police.

“It’s giving the makeup of militia members and their political beliefs,” Hotz said of the report. “It’s not saying that everybody who supports these candidates is involved in a militia. It’s not even saying that all militias are bad.”

Not everybody agrees. At a “Tea Party” to protest wasteful government spending Thursday in Flat Branch Park, several people displaying the Revolutionary War-replica “Don’t Tread On Me” flag were upset to learn the MIAC report lists the banner as a “militia symbol.”

“That’s insane,” said Doug Wendt looking at the MIAC document. “That is not a militia symbol. That is American history. This is historic. The only animosity” American colonists “ever directed with this was towards England.”

Roger Webb, president of the University of Missouri campus Libertarians, also took offense. “It’s absolutely obscene,” he said of the report. “It seems like they want to stifle political thought. There are a lot of third parties out there, and none of them express any violence. In fact, if you join the Libertarian Party, one of the things you sign in your membership application is that you don’t support violence as a means to any ends.”

Neal, who has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car, said the next time he is pulled over by a police officer, he won’t know whether it’s because he was speeding or because of his political views.

“If a police officer is pulling me over with my family in the car and he sees a bumper sticker on my vehicle that has been specifically identified as one that an extremist would have in their vehicle, the guy is probably going to be pretty apprehensive and not thinking in a rational manner,” Neal said. “And this guy’s walking up to my vehicle with a gun.”

 

[ItsTime]

Hits the MSM

Thanks

 

[torchbearer]

the more this gets out, the better.

 

[phill4paul]

Hits the MSM

Sent it on to Drudge.

Others should do the same.

 

[Elle]

I feel like someone just punched me in the belly.