Mississippi Man Arrested in Ricin Scare

[KingNothing]

More,
March 05, 2008
https://sites.google.com/site/paulkevincurtis/


snif,snif
What is that smell?

Insanity. That smell is insanity.

You don't actually believe this guy, do you?

 

[Aratus]

his meltdown, which hypothetically took a decade to arrive in full, is sadly coincidentally timed, if he is the same person

 

[torchbearer]

It is the same guy, and he has serious mental problems.

would still like to know what he saw at that hospital.

 

[KingNothing]

his meltdown, which hypothetically took a decade to arrive in full, is sadly coincidentally timed, if he is the same person

A false flag, or mind control, or a false flag mind control.

 

[pcosmar]

It is the same guy, and he has serious mental problems.

https://www.facebook.com/elvisguy4u

Well he does claim to be a Democrat. But that doesn't mean he wasn't screwed,, or set up.

Correction,, claims to be Independent,,
However

 

[torchbearer]

A false flag, or mind control, or a false flag mind control.

 

[jmdrake]

More,
March 05, 2008
https://sites.google.com/site/paulkevincurtis/


snif,snif
What is that smell?

 

[tttppp]

Did this guy watch Breaking Bad? That has to be where he got this idea.

 

[pcosmar]

Did this guy watch Breaking Bad? That has to be where he got this idea.

Or he had castor oil around when he wrote letters.

 

[sailingaway]

Assault Weapon ‏@marklindesr now
The #Ricin guy is a registered Democrat. Sorry but, "BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" Just needed to get that out there. #UniteBlue

only because CNN and others were so sure all problems were coming from the right....

 

[Nirvikalpa]

"I sent letters to State Representative Roger Wicker"

... good find.

 

[pcosmar]

"I sent letters to State Representative Roger Wicker"

... good find.

And all it would take is handling some Castor Oil product before writing the letters to have them test positive for Ricin.

 

[phill4paul]

FBI resources well spent in the wake of the bombing. Well done.

 

[sailingaway]

CaptivatingNews ‏@CaptivatingNews now
Miss. man accused of mailing suspected ricin described conspiracy theory involving body parts http://tinyurl.com/c5xjlg6 #p2

 

[WhistlinDave]

Honestly, the morgue pictures look fake. I'd say the guy was a nut.

I don't think he was trying to represent that was a real photo. I have the same rubber props in my garage and I put them out every Halloween along with all my other stuff. Reading the thing on the Ripoff Report it didn't sound like he got any photos at the time. So personally, I wouldn't draw any conclusions from the hoakey photo either way.

 

[WhistlinDave]

and again i ask, are our overlords harvesting us like cattle, literally? wth

No, my guess is, the place was used to dispose of someone's enemies, and the police were involved. Dirty cops doing the dirty work of some local powerful person, whether a politician, or a business person, or whoever.

Instead of "money laundering" think of it as "body laundering," and it was the cops' victims who were ending up on the chopping block there.

This is just my guess.

 

[Mini-Me]

This is pretty interesting. He seems pretty off his rocker, and the scope of the conspiracy he claims to have uncovered makes it pretty unbelievable...but just because he's crazy doesn't preclude the possibility that he saw something significant, nor does it mean he's necessarily guilty of sending someone ricin with intent to kill.

My best guess is he probably did see something at that hospital that made his imagination run wild. From there, it's tough to tell whether (and by how much) he has misrepresented the facts of his "persecution" or not:
For instance, his account of his meeting with Wicker inadvertantly revealed a degree of honesty in his writing: Wicker was apparently freaked out by his demeanor, but Curtis was so tunnel-visioned he mistook nervousness for complicity, and he importantly didn't even realize he was communicating quite a different sense to his readers than he intended. Viewed in this light, I suspect much of what he says is "factual" but cherry-picked and distorted by the lens of his paranoia. The most likely possibility seems to be that he's just crazy, and his erratic behavior after seeing the refrigerator (preserved organs waiting to be donated to science?) led to being kicked out of the hospital, causing some scenes, getting hit by minor charges, etc., and his continual obsession with the issue has continually landed him in more trouble.

However, it's also possible that WhistlinDave is correct: Someone connected to the cops tried to use that refrigerator to dispose of someone else, and everything else has been an attempt at intimidating him. If this is the case, the crime he saw evidence from probably wasn't casual cold-blooded murder, because if it was, someone would likely have just killed him outright instead of going through so many stages of harrassment and intimidation. In his case, it might be something more like an accidental death that a powerful person wanted to make "go away," but Curtis's imagination led him astray into repeatedly harrassing Wicker with wide-eyed conspiracy theories about the hospital morgue being used like Jeffrey Dahmer's kitchen.

From that point, I suppose it could have gone one of three ways:

1. He became totally unhinged and sent off letters with ricin, intending to kill his recipients.
2. He wrote another routine letter but got castor oil residue on it, and some feds overreacted and/or decided to take advantage of it to deal with a pest and/or saw it as an excuse for a sensational media story.
3. He became too much of a problem for someone trying to get away with a real crime, so someone decided to frame him by copying his signoff.

 

[WhistlinDave]

Thinking about Torchbearer's question a little more, I just thought of another possibility: The illegal trafficking in human body parts. I'll explain.

Years ago I worked at a company that sold surgical products among other things. High tech stuff for ortho docs, all kinds of really cool things that go on the tip of an arthroscope and can de-burr bones and other cool stuff. I was the head of the purchasing department there.

One day we were told "We're opening a new surgical laboratory so the doctors can do their training here on our newest products." Apparently, most hospitals have surgical labs for educational purposes like this, but they're booked up for months in advance. So there was a big demand for this.

The doctors trained using real human cadaver parts.

We built the lab, and it was a mad scramble coordinating all the details, everything from buying a fridge and a freezer to house the body parts in, to stainless steel "patient" tables, to face masks and gloves, scalpels, etc.

I also had to source and purchase the human body parts. In the course of that process I quickly learned that the several hundred dollars we would "pay" for a knee, or a torso with spine, or a head, or whatever, was actually a "donation" to the non-profit who harvested the body parts from the cadavers of people who donated their bodies to science. The donation was supposedly just enough to cover their costs. There's a nationwide network of non-profits who coordinate with hospitals to re-distribute cadavers and/or cadaver parts for use in education/medical training. (The one we "bought" our body parts from was called Anatomic Gift Foundation.)

Anyway, the whole point of this is, I'm thinking perhaps someone at the top was getting rich on selling off body parts from John and Jane Does who had NOT donated their bodies to science. If that was the case, they could've potentially made hundreds of thousands of dollars or even millions depending on how long they were doing it for. Body parts are not cheap.

Technically by law you're not allowed to "sell" them so all of this goes on under the label of "donations" and all the middle men are non profits. But either way, if you had an extra, illegitimate supply of more bodies to "donate to science" there could be a lot of extra money to be made.

If you want to take it to the sinister extreme, maybe it wasn't just dead John and Jane Does who had no "donate to science" order... Maybe they were harvesting other people for whatever reason. But that's not even necessary to go there. Just the basic scenario I described above would give somebody a huge financial incentive to keep everything quiet, not to mention the criminal penalties for a scheme like that.

This is all just my speculation of course, based on the little bit I know about how the cadaver industry works. No clue what really happened there, if anything.

 

[WhistlinDave]

And I think the letters that tested positive for the Ricin were his attempt to finally get nationwide attention to his situation and coverup. (Assuming his story is true, which we really don't know. Could also be an obsessed nutjob. If you believe in such things.)

 

[pcosmar]

And I think the letters that tested positive for the Ricin were his attempt to finally get nationwide attention to his situation and coverup. (Assuming his story is true, which we really don't know. Could also be an obsessed nutjob. If you believe in such things.)

Do you know how easy it is to test positive for Ricin?

Use ANY Castor Oil product. (there are many)
Handle a Castor Plant (common Ornamental)
Come into contact with Castor beans.. (trimming a yard plant)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...45bd68-a77e-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_story.html

Leitenberg said he was hard pressed to remember any case when an initial chemical test that showed the presence of ricin actually turned out to be ricin. Nearly every time it is a false alarm. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said there’s a rapid detection test for ricin that takes 6 to 8 hours, but the more complete test — the ricin toxin test — takes about 48 hours to perform and the availability of cultured cells to do the test could be a problem getting it done that fast. That second test is “considered the best test for determining the presence of ricin,” the CDC said in a fact sheet on ricin.