Mises on World Government

[r3volution 3.0]

You attributed to me something that I DID NOT SAY!!!

Brackets in a quote indicate editorialization. So, no I didn't.

What I did was explain what you meant.

Allowing "people who desire to live under a certain set of principles/culture" to do so is a euphemism for state violence against innocents.

That's what you're advocating.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

It's a leftist talking point to conflate immigration with the illegal alien invasion of our country. But, carry on with your cultural marxist lesson.

It's an asinine talking point to pretend that opposition to illegal immigration isn't opposition to immigration in general.

...since the only reason there is such a thing as illegal immigration is that immigration is restricted.

going after illegal immigration = enforcing immigration restrictions

 

[LibertyEagle]

Brackets in a quote indicate editorialization. So, no I didn't.

What I did was explain what you meant.

Allowing "people who desire to live under a certain set of principles/culture" to do so is a euphemism for state violence against innocents.

That's what you're advocating.

Nope. Putting your own blather inside a quotation with my name attached is a lie. If you want to give your opinion as to something I said, put it as part of your own post BELOW what you have quoted of mine. ie. Outside of the quotation.

I would have thought by now you would have figured out how forums work.

 

[LibertyEagle]

It's an asinine talking point to pretend that opposition to illegal immigration isn't opposition to immigration in general.

...since the only reason there is such a thing as illegal immigration is that immigration is restricted.

going after illegal immigration = enforcing immigration restrictions

No, in fact it is not. Which is why you conflate them. lol

 

[Ron Paul in 2008]

My point isn't that European cultures aren't under threat from immigration (they are, to an extent), but that, regardless, it is inappropriate for the state to violate the rights of innocent people (immigrants and natives) in order to restrict immigration, or do whatever else it is which nationalists demand it do to preserve the culture.

What rights do they have?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

My point isn't that European cultures aren't under threat from immigration (they are, to an extent), but that, regardless, it is inappropriate for the state to violate the rights of innocent people (immigrants and natives) in order to restrict immigration, or do whatever else it is which nationalists demand it do to preserve the culture. The state ought not be in the culture-making business.

What rights do they have?

The same that everyone has - property rights.

Basic Principles of Libertarian Ethics

When ICE arrests Jose for violating immigration law, ICE is violating his property rights.

...just as if I declared that you may not walk on your neighbor's lawn, and then kidnapped you when you did.

The immigration regime also violates the property rights of natives, e.g. by imposing fines on them for dealing with illegal immigrants.

...just as if I declared that you may not hire your neighbor to mow your lawn, and then stole money from you when you did.