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The market economy is the social system of the division of labor under private ownership of the means of production. Everybody acts on his own behalf; but everybody's actions aim at the satisfaction of other people's needs as well as at the satisfaction of his own. Everybody in acting serves his fellow citizens. Everybody, on the other hand, is served by his fellow citizens. Everybody is both a means and an end in himself, an ultimate end for himself and a means to other people in their endeavors to attain their own ends. (HA XV.1)
Mises said:Everybody acts on his own HA XV.1
Marx said:But in order that our owner of money may be able to find labour-power offered for sale as a commodity, various conditions must first be fulfilled. The exchange of commodities of itself implies no other relations of dependence than those which result from its own nature. On this assumption, labour-power can appear upon the market as a commodity, only if, and so far as, its possessor, the individual whose labour-power it is, offers it for sale, or sells it, as a commodity. In order that he may be able to do this, he must have it at his disposal, must be the untrammelled owner of his capacity for labour, i.e., of his person. [2] He and the owner of money meet in the market, and deal with each other as on the basis of equal rights, with this difference alone, that one is buyer, the other seller; both, therefore, equal in the eyes of the law. The continuance of this relation demands that the owner of the labour-power should sell it only for a definite period, for if he were to sell it rump and stump, once for all, he would be selling himself, converting himself from a free man into a slave, from an owner of a commodity into a commodity. He must constantly look upon his labour-power as his own property, his own commodity, and this he can only do by placing it at the disposal of the buyer temporarily, for a definite period of time. By this means alone can he avoid renouncing his rights of ownership over it.Capital V. 1 Ch. 6
When engaging with socialists it is far faster to break them if you explain that Capitalism is based on Bodily Autonomy. Any system that gives real bodily autonomy to any degree, will to the same degree exhibit the pathologies of Capitalism. As per Marx.
Socialism is about "realizing" the individual doesn't exist, that it is an illusion of control and discovering that 'you' are part of a larger unit, an economic class, and need to function with a class consciousness rather than an individual consciousness. Will is not individual but class based, and freedom is to align ones body with the will of the class.
Fascism proper btw is acting with alignment to the ethnic group consciousness and being aware of the struggles against other ethnic groups. (Hegel)
Almost any person calling themselves Socialist these days in fact suffers from Capitalist Realism and doesn't want to give up their individuality to a class consciousness. They want Capitalism but minus some form of oppression.