Minnesota Chaos! Stealing delegates

[PlzPeopleWakeUp]

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[rbu]

Great job Minnesotans!

 

[Hook]

There was no questionnaire. It would have been nice if it had been in ink with a written response. Or recorded. Or anything except the word of various people.

I watched at least one person inform the nominations committee that they had the wrong answer down for her. They said, yeah, that can easily happen, or something to that effect. A really sloppy method all around if they were going to use it to bind votes.

Hey Scribbler, haven't seen you in a while.

 

[torchbearer]

It looks like we are a bunch of Ninjas crashing through the windows at these conventions...
They can't see where we come from... and then - BAM!
Full slate of delegates....
Your convention is belong to us

 

[TER]

It looks like we are a bunch of Ninjas crashing through the windows at these conventions...
They can't see where we come from... and then - BAM!
Full slate of delegates....
Your convention is belong to us

ROFL!

 

[Dustancostine]

They got ahold of someone's slate that morning. The slate also created a problem in another district yesterday when a mole on the email list printed a smear piece about Ron Paul, listing our candidates on the bottom. Now THAT's playing dirty.

For our next two congressional district conventions and state convention, we won't be giving out the slate until right before time to vote.

Keep up the good work up there Marianne.

--Dustan

 

[Dustancostine]

It looks like we are a bunch of Ninjas crashing through the windows at these conventions...
They can't see where we come from... and then - BAM!
Full slate of delegates....
Your convention is belong to us

LOL, but instead of black cloth mask, we wear TINFOIL mask.

 

[torchbearer]

LOL, but instead of black cloth mask, we wear TINFOIL mask.

Actually those people who wear Tinfoil hats have been vindicated.
See this article: The Army's Telepathic Ray Gun

 

[acroso]

I wonder how many delegates we'll end up with for the convention itself.

Would be AWESOME if we ended up with more delegates tha Huckabee or Romney.

Sounds like a long-shot, but it would increase the llikelihood he'd get to speak.

 

[Join The Paul Side]

Guys...

We're not going to be handed delegates, I even think of the states were we did really bad in and didn't come close to winning, it doesn't seem right to "STEAL" the state... I'm all for it where we can, but it may cause a blowback to the cause. However I think we should keep trying, becuase what this will do is this year, the GOP is seeing what is in store for them. Modivated, energized, fresh, young, talented on internet for organization...

They are seeing that the organizational powers we have are going to crush them come next time it is time to play this game... Every day is a building block, every fight, win or lose, is a win as we are putting the incumbent ideas to task...

just keep fighting... Expect the worse, hope for the best.

I call bullshit. The party was stolen from us in the first place. If we can steal it back then more power to us.

 

[TruthAtLast]

It looks like we are a bunch of Ninjas crashing through the windows at these conventions...
They can't see where we come from... and then - BAM!
Full slate of delegates....
Your convention is belong to us

haha.


Out of curiosity. is anyone keeping tally of these wins in each district / county? How many delegates and alternates we are sending to each state convention?

 

[Conza88]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/020415.html

He asked me point blank if the RP people were trying to throw the election to the Democrats and struck me as generally, a little paranoid.

- CALL him a conspiracy theorist!!!! haha

 

[mcgraw_wv]

I call bullshit. The party was stolen from us in the first place. If we can steal it back then more power to us.

Bull shit on what exactly about my post?


The parties have changed many a time since it started... This is what happens, this has happened many times. If you check out history, the republicans once were the party of the common blue collar worker.

Parties change, but no of them change overnight, and none of them do it willingly.

 

[teshuah]

according to what I have been reading from CD-6 goers, not everyone was asked the same question regarding McCain and it was worded in such a way to cause confusion.

The article from OP is full of propaganda regarding the question issue.

Also, the vote to 'bind the delegates' to their original response was done after the delegates were elected and many had left. I wonder how many RP supporters had left at this point too and if they would have stayed if the vote to find would have passed.

The MN GOP is running scared. They are seeing Freedom, Liberty, Constitution loving citizens stepping up to the plate and being voted in. They know their days are numbered and are trying to do everything they can to hold onto their jobs.

 

[Banana]

according to what I have been reading from CD-6 goers, not everyone was asked the same question regarding McCain and it was worded in such a way to cause confusion.

The article from OP is full of propaganda regarding the question issue.

Aha! That explains why there were two different sides of story!

Looks like the lesson here should be to group together when asked questions like this and verify that everyone was asked the same questions. Also, don't forget that one can call for a recess to review the questionaire or something. Alternatively, you could ask the chair to read the questionaire aloud. Something like that will help prevent them from asking different questions as they go from one to next delegates and help us know what is being asked of us.

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

As in other cases across the country, we're doing best where the local GOP is weakest. The MN GOP was nearly knocked into dormancy by the 2006 Mid-term elections. They lost tons of legislative seats, a Congressional district, the Senate race, and Gov. Pawlenty only won re-election by a hair (mostly by virtue of the Dem candidate being so horrid). If the GOP is weakened from suffering a number of blows, then there seems to be a case for Ron Paul supporters making significant gains.

This is a fine example of why McCain must not win the November election, if he takes the GOP nomination. If McCain loses, especially by a significant margin, we might be in a good position to pounce. Though that isn't to say there's no merit in working on parallel projects, like third party efforts and PACs. The latter two may even be instrumental in smashing McCain's attempt to take the White House.

 

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Hey Scribbler, haven't seen you in a while.

That's because I've been up to mischief, as you can tell.

 

[BenMuldowney]

What hypocrites!! The corrupt GOP pull all kind of dirty tricks in Louisiana, Nevada, marginalize RP, attack him for being conservative, laugh at him at the debates, try to keep him out, etc and now they try to say we're pulling "dirty tricks".

How entirely laughable. And pathetic.

Way to go RP supporters in MN!!!!

"I think I feel a change in the wind says I.....Take what you get, give nothing back!" - Pirates of the Carribean

AdamT is someone that gets it... good post.

 

[teshuah]

More writing from the trenches of CD6

ETA: Drew Emmer has always been kind to Ron Paul supporters in his blog, so please return the favor

http://wrightrepublican.blogspot.com/2008/04/6th-cd-convention-redux-chilly-with.html

an excerpt:

At least five out of six folks(3 delegates/3 alternates) elected to represent the Sixth Congressional District are Ron Paul enthusiasts. I say .at least 5/6 because I'm not completely convinced that Michele Bachmann isn't at least a closet Ron Paul supporter. I know Michele will support John McCain at the National Convention. 2 of 3CD 6 national delegates and 3 of 3 alternates hail from the Ron Paul camp.

Having Andy Aplikowski, a long time CD 6 loyal activist, offer the motion to bind delegates after the fact, while certainly within his rights as a member of the delegation, just didn't look good. It looked like sour grapes over getting beaten in the national delegate election. And it looked as though it was orchestrated by MNGOP party officers. Not behavior conducive to creating the kind of Kumbaya we need to pull this part y together and win in November. Aplikowski's motion was enough to cause certain party faithful to take a "Liar, Liar, Pants On Fire" posture when the Paulites nearly swept the election. The charge of lieing had to do with the answers published by the nominating committee on all five Paul supporters. Each said "Yes" to the question "Will you support John McCain at the national convention?". Aplikowski's motion was to bind them to vote for McCain. The motion prevailed. Would the Paul supporters have supported McCain at the national convention without the 6th CD convention binding them to do so? Only the shadow knows.

To report after the fact (see Andy Barnett's piece in Worldnet Daily News) that the RNC would remove any delegate not pledged to support McCain is perhaps the stupidest thing I could imagine in this frame. The stupidity is in "after the fact". This could have been disclosed in advance of the election. The rules could have been more clear. This is one dust-up we could have avoided if we wanted to. Our Nominating Committee Chair stated that the RNC rules were not yet published with regard to the national convention. To have those same rules cited an hour later when the proverbial dung hit the oscillator is troubling.

 

[wowabunga]

Until pressure "from the people" finally arrises... expect much more of the same. Will it be too late then... will we even try to wake and educate the population ???