Minnesota: Brooklyn Center Looting, Rioting in Wake of Daunte Wright Death

[Lifesoup]

I noticed that too. But she was firing right under the other cop, and the best evidence of an actual shot fired was how fast the other cop jumped back several steps. Definitely scared him.

Right before he steps back in reaction he looks down to see a Glock ejection port and barrel four inches from his face. Not to mention the woman screeching incessantly about a taser. That would be similar to having a coiled rattler sounding off in-your-face.... and would cause a bit of flight panic for sure.

A Glock, with it's Browning derived cam-lock barrel system moves even with a double handed, firm hold. single handed... more dramatically. Yet even at half speed watching over and over, I see (and hear) nothing as far as evidence that the pistol fired.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Right before he steps back in reaction he looks down to see a Glock ejection port and barrel four inches from his face. Not to mention the woman screeching incessantly about a taser. That would be similar to having a coiled rattler sounding off in-your-face.... and would cause a bit of flight panic for sure.

A Glock, with it's Browning derived cam-lock barrel system moves even with a double handed, firm hold. single handed... more dramatically. Yet even at half speed watching over and over, I see (and hear) nothing as far as evidence that the pistol fired.

I've watched thousands of these videos and hundreds of axios police body cams.

The frame rates are potato...there are many where the actual shot "break" is not visible, not even smoke or a casing or muzzle flash.

I can hear a muffled shot at 2:26

 

[Lifesoup]

The frame rates are potato...

I can hear a muffled shot at 2:26

Good enough, and thanks.
Still not sure I'm there on this one.... I certainly suffer from a level of jaded that I wasn't even aware could exist a short while ago.
The ready throngs of rioters and reactionaries animated by every event doesn't help. Nor does the overall theme that is media pushed. It's all so directional.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Good enough, and thanks.
Still not sure I'm there on this one.... I certainly suffer from a level of jaded that I wasn't even aware could exist a short while ago.
The ready throngs of rioters and reactionaries animated by every event doesn't help. Nor does the overall theme that is media pushed. It's all so directional.

Your join date is 2010 but I'm guessing at only 56 posts, you're pretty new here.

For years I've catalogued police killings just like this.

The rioters and reactionaries are new, just arrived...for those years, mostly nobody cared.

So I think what's happening is the powers that be just put the rioters on "standby".

They know one of these incident will crop up.

 

[Lifesoup]

Your join date is 2010 but I'm guessing at only 56 posts, you're pretty new here.

For years I've catalogued police killings just like this.

The rioters and reactionaries are new, just arrived...for those years, mostly nobody cared.

So I think what's happening is the powers that be just put the rioters on "standby".

They know one of these incident will crop up.

Yep, I'm well aware of your efforts over the years (and quite appreciative).
I remember when the grass roots sprouted the various cop block and watch activists (yourself included)... well before it was a race thing. As a matter of fact, we saw the writing on the wall when it became the "race thing" and BLM was one of the vehicles used to slide our movement into the realm of division and irrelevancy. It was subtle but just as directional... That too was the powers-that-be and they were reacting to us as we made progress raising awareness on abuse and militarization against people (not races).

Now we have the phenomenon of deep state actors in collusion with media (I repeat myself...) and readied armies of revolutionaries painting/pushing a narrative of chaos.... toward what appears to be a potential color revolution. Certainly global and in parallel with the DAVOS crowds reset agenda. All reactions to the anti-globalist decentralization that had been flowering.

I predict that there will be event after event "crop up" and they will all be just as directional and just as parallel and centralizing. Sad really... and enough to jade a fella. More than likely I'll continue to scrutinize and call out anom-a-lies along the way (and get it wrong sometimes).

 

[Invisible Man]

Yes I'm fine with a criminal with multiple warrants out getting himself killed.

And by "criminal" you mean somebody who violates any laws that politicians pass, no matter how unjust those laws may be. Corrupt politicians could declare something that's important to you illegal, and then you would just give that thing up and feel no sympathy for those out there who also consider it important who choose not to, and then get warrants for their arrest because of that and end up being killed for it.

What in the world ever even drew you to this website?

 

[acptulsa]

anom-a-lies

You coined a good one. Easier to say than to type. I wish the coincidence theorists could see, and believe in, an underlying plan before it comes to fruition.

Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

here is your challenge,

how many homeland security officials can suck my ...

AOC can demonstrate for them...

https://reason.com/2019/07/10/aoc-w...d-security-libertarians-have-a-plan-for-that/

AOC Wants To Kill the Department of Homeland Security. Libertarians Have a Plan For That.
Libertarians have a lot of ideas about how to dismantle one of the most bloated, ineffective government departments ever.

 

[Lifesoup]

You coined a good one. Easier to say than to type. I wish the coincidence theorists could see, and believe in, an underlying plan before it comes to fruition.

Funny you should say that. As I was typing and lamenting, last night, about how the tides are directed toward washing away whatever progress had been made in regard to decentralization.... I come to find the minions were literally chanting "YOU CAN'T STOP THE REVOLUTION" and putting out the rallying call for the weekend...

The tides are ripping hard and the hour is getting late... so to speak. No coincidences.
As far as I can tell, every revolution that has ever caught hold... occurred because there were powerful interests supporting and directing it into reality.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

AOC can demonstrate for them...

https://reason.com/2019/07/10/aoc-w...d-security-libertarians-have-a-plan-for-that/

AOC Wants To Kill the Department of Homeland Security. Libertarians Have a Plan For That.
Libertarians have a lot of ideas about how to dismantle one of the most bloated, ineffective government departments ever.

Sure. Let’s go along with AOC. No doubt her and Pelosi’s plan would consist of renaming it to the Department of Social Justice and doubling it’s budget.

 

[69360]

And by "criminal" you mean somebody who violates any laws that politicians pass, no matter how unjust those laws may be. Corrupt politicians could declare something that's important to you illegal, and then you would just give that thing up and feel no sympathy for those out there who also consider it important who choose not to, and then get warrants for their arrest because of that and end up being killed for it.

What in the world ever even drew you to this website?

The kid was a scumbag. Held a woman up at gunpoint, ran from the cops multiple time. Your argument is completely invalid.

 

[Invisible Man]

The kid was a scumbag. Held a woman up at gunpoint, ran from the cops multiple time. Your argument is completely invalid.

OK. I just saw that update this morning. You're right that that changes the story. But as of when you and I were going back and forth about that, the story as it had been reported on this thread was just that the warrant was for illegal gun possession. You seemed to be totally fine with him or anybody else getting arrested and/or killed for that.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The kid was a scumbag. Held a woman up at gunpoint, ran from the cops multiple time.

And?

I'm not questioning that.

In a free country people do not get summarily executed on the side of the road for being a scumbag.

He was unarmed and compliant, until the female cop felt the need to escalate the situation.

Not that I am suggesting this was an "execution".

It appears to be a unintentional discharge caused by poor training, tactical skills and decision making.

That idiot broad could have just as easily shot one of her partners or herself, the way she was waving that pistol around.

 

[Anti Federalist]

OK. I just saw that update this morning. You're right that that changes the story. But as of when you and I were going back and forth about that, the story as it had been reported on this thread was just that the warrant was for illegal gun possession. You seemed to be totally fine with him or anybody else getting arrested and/or killed for that.

FWIW the only "active" charges against were these:

Gross misdemeanor gun possession (he didn't have a carry permit) and misdemeanor fleeing arrest (non-vehicular).

Also failure to appear with respect to a virtual/remote hearing (presumably for the previous gun and fleeing charges).

What he may have done before that, I have not seen any concrete proof of.

 

[phill4paul]

And?

I'm not questioning that.

In a free country people do not get summarily executed on the side of the road for being a scumbag.

He was unarmed and complaint, until the female cop felt the need to escalate the situation.

Not that I am suggesting this was an "execution".

It appears to be a unintentional discharge caused by poor training, tactical skills and decision making.

That idiot broad could have just as easily shot one of her partners or herself, the way she was waving that pistol around.

From what I saw he was not 'compliant.' While they were attempting to cuff him he broke and tried to make a vehicular getaway. One of the jobs of cops is to bring suspects in for warrants. So they, and their VICTIMS, will have their day in court.
Now if you want to totally disregard that simple premise, I'm fine with that. But, homicide rates would skyrocket. Because if this 'din't do nuffin'' had done what he did to someone I know, he would turn himself into the court if he knew what was coming at him.
That said, the broad fucked up. Big time. And she'll answer for it.

 

[Invisible Man]

And she'll answer for it.

Hopefully. But a big part of why this is a recurring problem is because cops aren't generally held to the same standard as anyone else would be when it comes to answering for it.

 

[phill4paul]

Hopefully. But a big part of why this is a recurring problem is because cops aren't generally held to the same standard as anyone else would be when it comes to answering for it.

I know well. Been talking about it since 2007 on these forums. So I hope so also. Looks like they are going for 2nd degree manslaughter. She already resigned. Could have been just a stupid bone headed mistake. I'm pretty sure it was. But, we all should have to answer for stupid boneheaded mistakes when it involves the loss of life.

 

[Anti Federalist]

From what I saw he was not 'compliant.' While they were attempting to cuff him he broke and tried to make a vehicular getaway. One of the jobs of cops is to bring suspects in for warrants. So they, and their VICTIMS, will have their day in court.
Now if you want to totally disregard that simple premise, I'm fine with that. But, homicide rates would skyrocket. Because if this 'din't do nuffin'' had done what he did to someone I know, he would turn himself into the court if he knew what was coming at him.
That said, the broad fucked up. Big time. And she'll answer for it.

Nope, not excusing anything Wright did to start the whole chain of fuckery that led to his death.

He appears to me to be compliant , right up until the second the female cop puts her hands on him.

Then he balks, resists and all hell breaks loose.

But we all know facts and objective observations are racist.

 

[sparebulb]

Nope, not excusing anything Wright did to start the whole chain of $#@!ery that led to his death.

He appears to me to be compliant , right up until the second the female cop puts her hands on him.

Then he balks, resists and all hell breaks loose.

But we all know facts and objective observations are racist.

I agree.

It looks to me as if things were going ok until she entered the scene.

 

[69360]

And?

I'm not questioning that.

In a free country people do not get summarily executed on the side of the road for being a scumbag.

He was unarmed and compliant, until the female cop felt the need to escalate the situation.

Not that I am suggesting this was an "execution".

It appears to be a unintentional discharge caused by poor training, tactical skills and decision making.

That idiot broad could have just as easily shot one of her partners or herself, the way she was waving that pistol around.

This like the Floyd case and most of these cop shootings is a result of two idiots meeting. He shouldn't have ignored his warrant, shouldn't have fought with the cops and tried to run again. The cop should have tazed, not shot him.

The cop should go to prison for manslaughter, but the scumbag kid initiated the events that caused his own death.