Military Warns Active Duty, Reservists, and Retirees Not To March for Ron Paul on 20 Feb.

MARCH ON KOKESH!!!!!!!!


Adam Kokesh is already OUT of the Military . . . some controversy attending the discharge, if memory serves.

When Adam Kokesh gets arrested, it goes on YouTube not only as whatever statement about whichever principle, but ALSO in furtherance of a CAREER in Activism.

That is an UNCOMMON turn of events for a Veteran, is it not?

For Active Duty charting their own course, how fares Bradley Manning?

When ANTI WAR folk and Ron Paul Supporters in particular chant BRING THE TROOPS HOME, is anyone imagining that all those Troops remain EMPLOYED as Soldiers? Drone EFFICIENCIES "alone" pave the way for FEWER Troops.

If I am at the top of the Military Food Chain, I am thinking GIVE ME MORE WAR OR GIVE ME PINK SLIPS.
 
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Adam Kokesh is already OUT of the Military . . ...

Adam can be charged -- just like conspiracy to create a riot, just like conspiracy to break any law. Adam is the instigator and should bear most of the blame for whatever happens. I already blame him for damaging RP's reputation with this march. I blame him for leading patriotic soldiers into a worthless cause when those same people could be doing something constructive with their time.
 
If it wasn't for serving in the military myself, I would never have known the extent of corruption. I'm the kind of person who believes what I see more than what I hear, so I am glad I served for that purpose, on the front lines. Those of you who are anti-military, should recognize this fact, because we are the ones that are able to provide you factual information that counters the MSM and government far more effectively.
 
What? That has nothing to do with the matter at hand. That is the Commander in Chief giving a speech in front of troops/sailors. That has happened for a long, long time. The troops/sailors are not campaigning, wearing campaign material, associating themselves with a candidate. Sitting behind the President during the speech is not a UCMJ violation. They would do this for any candidate.

You're seriously going to sit there and try to tell me that the "Mission Accomplished" event was not a staged, political event?

Oh well.
 
If it wasn't for serving in the military myself, I would never have known the extent of corruption. I'm the kind of person who believes what I see more than what I hear, so I am glad I served for that purpose, on the front lines. Those of you who are anti-military, should recognize this fact, because we are the ones that are able to provide you factual information that counters the MSM and government far more effectively.


ANTI WAR is not the same thing as Anti Military.

ANTI CORRUPTION is not the same thing as SELECTIVELY defying directives.
 
You're seriously going to sit there and try to tell me that the "Mission Accomplished" event was not a staged, political event?

Oh well.
It was, but has no relevance to this thread, because the troops behind the POTUS did not plan and stage the event, nor did they voluntarily swim to the ship for the opportunity to be in a photo.
 
I say who cares what they do as long as they are not hurting anyone phisically or stealing. Leave people alone and let them do what they feel like as long as they are not hurting anyone or stealing. Is that not Ron Paul's message? Freedom! I have read a bunch on this forum. I think some still need to "wake" up a bit. Stop being worried about what other people are doing and worry about yourself.
 
Adam can be charged -- just like conspiracy to create a riot, just like conspiracy to break any law. Adam is the instigator and should bear most of the blame for whatever happens. I already blame him for damaging RP's reputation with this march. I blame him for leading patriotic soldiers into a worthless cause when those same people could be doing something constructive with their time.


The Cause = The Cause, far from worthless.

But encouraging Active Duty to march on the nation's capitol in support of a challenger to the Commander-in-Chief is WORSE than worthless. It is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE, with any downside falling disproportionately ON TROOPS.
 
I say who cares what they do as long as they are not hurting anyone phisically or stealing. Leave people alone and let them do what they feel like as long as they are not hurting anyone or stealing.


got Peter, Paul & Mary?

Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya.
 
You guys are never radical enough for me :D

There shouldn't be a standing army, just an armed populace.
There, problem solved.
 
A lotta things that "shouldn't be" nevertheless ARE.

Kumbaya.

I hope kumbaya is your name or something, because calling me a pacifist hippie is silly, neo-con, FOX news watching, nonsense. Anyway, thanks for setting me straight, I didn't realize this was the "end of history" and "best of all possible worlds" I'll just shut up now :o
 
I hope kumbaya is your name or something, because calling me a pacifist hippie is silly, neo-con, FOX news watching, nonsense.

Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya = COME BY HERE, MY LORD, COME BY HERE.

In a perfect world...



Anyway, thanks for setting me straight,

Knee-jerk sarcasm.



I didn't realize this was the "end of history" and "best of all possible worlds" I'll just shut up now :o

HYPERBOLIC knee-jerk sarcasm.

NOWHERE is where I suggest #EndTimes.

ON THE CONTRARY, I suggest that there are real-world, real-time implications AND ramifications to Active Duty marching on DC...and that the NEGATIVE consequences outweigh POSSIBLE POSITIVE consequences for BOTH Ron Paul AND Troops...and, further, that there are on-the-books ramifications that can-therefore-conservatively-presume-they-will befall Troops.

WITHOUT casting stones at anyone in particular, I trust you will concede that Officials are NOT the only ones who would put Troops in harm's way to further OTHER "worth it" agendas?
 
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The Military is NOT a democracy.



But Bush used the military to force democracy on places that didn't want it!!

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Whoever slapped LIFE'S A BEACH, AND THEN YOU DIE on a t-shirt didn't pull that sentiment randomly out of a hat.

Then you must be all for the U.S. government being the world's police eh?

The U.S. has no business in other countries affairs--period. The military is cannon fodder for the elites!! Our military has a right to speak out, regardless, of what you or others may think--stick that in your hat. The Military code is unconstitutional plan and simple.

How do people seriously go around pretending that the military is out fighting for our freedoms? Good God, so many people are screwed with that thinking!
 
This makes no sense, my boss has seen my facebook page, and has said nothing of a violation. Even though it is very obvious I support a specific candidate. And am suggested not to. Also, on my facebook it even says I am in the ARNG. (national guard).

Either way I see a restriction of speech as the same as any restriction on speech, wrong. (Active duty personnel is different because they serve in an official capacity) and getting entangled within politics while active can push people to be insubordinate.

I believe the case of my facebook being a private collection of my thoughts over the course of time, and is such an expression of myself, who I am, what I believe. If at anytime in our history save for the initial revolution to become our country it has ever been more needed for American's citizens to speak out, that time is NOW. And no amount of rules and regulations can prevent that speech. They may limit it, but the intent of the Constitution was to allow all members a voice in this democratic republic. Those voices have been stifled, wrapped and nested within miles of regulations, so much so that if one person say something and another feels victimized over it, the victim can sue and win. Politically correct does not exist as a tool to help free speech but to stifle it.

Two things one has to consider when taking action that could be in violation of any laws or regulations:

First, is the consequence worth it?
Second, Is there a better way to say the same thing, in a different way that would not lead to said consequences?

If The first answer is yes, and the second no. (due to viability of the message or speech gaining traction) Then do it but know what your rights are and how to defend them.

"4.3.1.2. Include or permit the inclusion of their current or former specific military duty, title, or position, or photographs in military uniform, when displayed with other non-military biographical details. Any such military information must be accompanied by a prominent and clearly displayed disclaimer that neither the military information nor photographs imply endorsement by the Department of Defense or their particular Military Department (or the Department of Homeland Security for members of the Coast Guard); e.g., “John Doe is a member of the Army National Guard. Use of his military rank, job titles, and photographs in uniform does not imply endorsement by the Department of the Army or the Department of Defense.”


As far as what Mr. Kokesh does, it is ultimately his choice, and if the laws of this country, and attempts to change said laws via representation has gone to no avail, then is there no further option than highlighting support of a candidate via a rally, or a message? That war is still killing and killing is still wrong? How does this constitute a problem with rallying members of an organization/ or ex-members to show solidarity within a specific group, and only that group that is present and not implying that the remaining portions of those groups feel the same way. Are we to disclaimer all speech in case it may get misinterpreted? Is this Freedom?

Conspiracy to culminate a revolution is going to be illegal, before the Revolution is successful.
 
Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya = COME BY HERE, MY LORD, COME BY HERE.

In a perfect world...





Knee-jerk sarcasm.





HYPERBOLIC knee-jerk sarcasm.

NOWHERE is where I suggest #EndTimes.

ON THE CONTRARY, I suggest that there are real-world, real-time implications AND ramifications to Active Duty marching on DC...and that the NEGATIVE consequences outweigh POSSIBLE POSITIVE consequences for BOTH Ron Paul AND Troops...and, further, that there are on-the-books ramifications that can-therefore-conservatively-presume-they-will befall Troops.

WITHOUT casting stones at anyone in particular, I trust you will concede that Officials are NOT the only ones who would put Troops in harm's way to further OTHER "worth it" agendas?

I don't operate solely based on the fear of some undefined "consequences". Sorry, no sale... You will not simply state whether you agree or disagree with my principled position, because to do so takes moral courage. You know, the reason Ron Paul is known, and loved. You'd much rather wax unpoetically about the shadowy and vague consequences of ......
 
ANTI WAR is not the same thing as Anti Military.

ANTI CORRUPTION is not the same thing as SELECTIVELY defying directives.

Yeah, just like being combative on a message board is the ironic method of choice for those who are anti-war. I know you quoted me, but my post wasn't aimed at you. Just a FYI.
 
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