Military supports McCain- Endorsed by Over 100 Retired Admirals and Generals

[Leslie Webb]

So McCain has one hundred members of the military who donate to his campaign. Ron Paul probably has ten or twenty times that number of military donors.

 

[thisisgiparti]

Whether they agree or not with our politics

So people in the military who don't agree with your politics can just go suck on an IED, eh? Gooooood job - marginalize Ron Paul on the Internet some more.
Soldiers (and sailors, airmen, Marines, etc.) are "subservient" to (i.e.; take orders from) whomever is in charge at the DoD at any given time and under any given administration. Part of my military service was during the Clinton years, and you have no idea how difficult it was for me personally at times to follow orders given to me by that philandering crook and the empty suits he put in charge over at the DoD. But I did it, to the best of my ability. To even suggest as you did that military people who don't agree with you politically should be somehow screwed over is outrageous and despicable.

(Finally, the guy's name is "Rumsfeld". If you're going to bust out with a raging hateon for all to see, at least spell the guy's name correctly.)

where did anyone say that soldiers who actually LIKE that whole neocon bunch of scum deserve to die? By neocon, I will call out each and every chicken- hawk dirtbag by name. I will spell their names correctly, if that makes you feel better. Neocons meaning moron Republicans currently in charge. It means you! It means George 'Mission Accomplished' Bush. It means William 'Always Wrong' Kristol. It means Paul 'Greet Us As Liberators' Wolfowitz. It means Donald 'Shock and Awe' Rumsfeld. and It means Dick 'Last Throes' Cheney. It means Richard 'It Will Pay For Itself' Perle. It means 9udy 11uliani. It means John 'We NEED 500,000 men in Iraq' McCain. It means Fred "Law & Order" Thompson. It means that entire 'Do-Nothing and Give Bush Anything He Wants' Republican Senate and Congress that was voted out in the last election. (AND the Democrats following so disappointingly in their footsteps will suffer their fate.)

Lies, greed, corruption, cronyism and incompetence - that is your Commander in Chief and all the nitwits around him past and present. Denouncing them as traitors in no way diminishes the patriotism of our men and women in uniform. Allowing them to serve under these criminals is a worse disservice. Everyone on this board supports our troops and only wants to see them home as soon and as safely as possible.

 

[asgardshill]

where did anyone say that soldiers who actually LIKE that whole neocon bunch of scum deserve to die?

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said the above - the OP inferred it. Reading is fundamental.

By neocon, I will call out each and every chicken- hawk dirtbag by name. I will spell their names correctly, if that makes you feel better.

Good for you - doing so will make you look like a bit less of a slack-jawed moron.

Neocons meaning moron Republicans currently in charge. It means you!

And I'm "in charge" of exactly what? (Other than schooling you here of course).

Go give Mommy a big hug and tearfully apologize for having used her computer without her permission. Then get ready for bed - Santa doesn't come to visit disobedient little boys and girls.

 

[Wingman]

Like I said

any wolrd leader that wants to declare war MUST be required to have himself and his family stand in the front lines as INFANTRY for the duration of the war.

LIKE NAPOLEON.

 

[american.swan]

wow, that's like 100 primary voters. right?

hahaha

 

[joelfarm]

The thugs that are backing McCain are the same yellowbellys that refused to stand up for the boots on the ground who were under fire without proper equipment. At the same time our people were donating money to send the right equip. out OF OUR OWN POCKETS, they were approving fat contracts to corporate shisters. Some of these same traitors were probably some of the ones that looked the other way when putrid food was slopped out to our heroes by KBR and the rest of the warmongers cried foul when the least opposition was raised in how they bungled the whole occupation. Man, I really hope there is an afterlife so they will truly pay for the sell-out of our REAL military heroes- the troops ON THE FRONT LINES! Does anyone possibly think Ron Paul would ever risk our troops for a fiasco such as this??

 

[thisisgiparti]

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said the above - the OP inferred it. Reading is fundamental.



Good for you - doing so will make you look like a bit less of a slack-jawed moron.



And I'm "in charge" of exactly what? (Other than schooling you here of course).

Go give Mommy a big hug and tearfully apologize for having used her computer without her permission. Then get ready for bed - Santa doesn't come to visit disobedient little boys and girls.

you're not schooling anyone, even if you feel calling someone a "slack-jawed moron" is a way to win an argument. I served in Clinton's military, too, you piece of shit.

 

[werdd]

yeah mccain has the support of ex general beurocrats while we have the support of the real men and women on the ground fighting and dying. SCREW you mccain 3 words, let them home.

 

[DaneKirk]

Well I can see that some of you that served in the Clinton years are having a go at it. All I know is Bush because I have only been in for 2 years and 1 month. I am deployed in support of OIF in Turkey and fly into the AOR every other day. Many people here do not support the war, just by bringing up politics at the chow hall I find many that are planning to vote for Paul. Many of us, even though we are making a lot of money, wonder why we are here. Paul does have the support of most every day Enlisted and Officers I talk to.

Being aviators though some do have concerns about if Paul will support upgrading many of our aircraft and weapon systems. Like I have said in another thread, some of our airframes have been around since the 1950's and 60's. Only an insane person would give up the edge we have now. I have yet to here anyone tell me what Ron thinks about this, it is very important to many of us here that we have the best equipment there is. Not to mention many of the programs coming will save the tax payers billions of dollars over time. With China acting more aggressive, we believe it is imperative that we make sure we keep as many steps ahead of them as possible. That does not mean we want to fight with them though. Just my 2 cents on the issue.

 

[Kingfisher]

You must be politically correct to become an Admiral or a General.

 

[joelfarm]

Thank you DaneKirk, for your service and for the insight on what the guys over there are thinking. It pretty much confirms what I hear from the few I still know in active duty status. Yes, we need to be constantley upgrading our DEFENCES. I emphasize defense, because Ron Paul espouses TRUE homeland security, not military adventures in obscure faraway places, to right grievances that people have against their despotic tyrants. And yes, we do face an increasing threat from China. But we need to step back, regroup, and have real dialog as to how we will deal with actual enemies of the United States. The big problem is we have traitors running fedgov now, that have to be eliminated.

 

[conner_condor]

"Just let us win"

what a bunch of absolute bull shit.

They had 4 years to win.

 

[Cleaner44]

Please ask any known military Ron Paul supporters to endorse him on this new site.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/M...ersforRonPaul/

I want to counter McCain.

 

[plp]

Well I can see that some of you that served in the Clinton years are having a go at it. All I know is Bush because I have only been in for 2 years and 1 month. I am deployed in support of OIF in Turkey and fly into the AOR every other day. Many people here do not support the war, just by bringing up politics at the chow hall I find many that are planning to vote for Paul. Many of us, even though we are making a lot of money, wonder why we are here. Paul does have the support of most every day Enlisted and Officers I talk to.

Being aviators though some do have concerns about if Paul will support upgrading many of our aircraft and weapon systems. Like I have said in another thread, some of our airframes have been around since the 1950's and 60's. Only an insane person would give up the edge we have now. I have yet to here anyone tell me what Ron thinks about this, it is very important to many of us here that we have the best equipment there is. Not to mention many of the programs coming will save the tax payers billions of dollars over time. With China acting more aggressive, we believe it is imperative that we make sure we keep as many steps ahead of them as possible. That does not mean we want to fight with them though. Just my 2 cents on the issue.

It is clearly stated in the Constitution that the national defense is the responsibility of the Commander in Chief as executive and the Congress to properly equip.

Think of the massive reduction in daily demand for equipment, allowing more time for maintenance, upgrades and training if we were to regroup on the domestic front. It would seem to me the use of the militia for border patrol would both supply a better bang for the buck as far as training exercises, as well as securing the patrolled area. Better yet, it is a clearly defined use of the militia under the Constitution, to defend against foes both foreign and domestic.

I would suspect many do not really understand what Dr. Paul sees as the true purpose of the military, and that there will be no less demand for both personnel and funding. Do not expect a reduction in the amount necessary per man, but rather a reduction in funding to support all our remote bases. Japan and Germany should be able to defend themselves at this point, and it is time the E.U. ponied up for their own defense.

 

[sharedvoice]

It's the boots on the ground that support Ron Paul. Who cares two-flying F's if John McCain pulls a few Gens. out of his ass. John McCain is a plastic turkey.

 

[lemnad]

Most high ranking Military officers anymore (O-7 and above) are just politicians in uniform.