Mike Lee, tea party senator, may help decide Trump’s fate at convention

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Mike Lee, tea party senator, may help decide Trump’s fate at convention

Mike Lee, tea party senator, may help decide Trump’s fate at convention

CLEVELAND — This week, watch Mike Lee.

The mild-mannered first-term U.S. senator from Utah will arrive here Wednesday night or Thursday morning to cast a significant vote in the long-odds battle being waged by some Republican delegates to snatch the party’s presidential nomination from Donald Trump.

Lee, 45, is one of Utah’s two members on the convention Rules Committee, which will vote at the end of the week on a motion to unbind the 2,472 convention delegates next week. If the committee sends the resolution to the convention floor, the whole convention would vote up or down on the measure.

The obstacles facing the Dump Trump effort are high. Multiple Trump campaign officials said Tuesday that their whip count indicated that the “conscience clause” would not get out of Rules, and that if it did, it would lose on the convention floor. There were no signs of nervousness in the Trump whip operation, one said.

Allies of the Dump Trump effort are more optimistic that the Rules Committee might pass the measure to the full convention, but less hopeful about their chances there. In addition, other observers of the process think that delegates trying to send the convention to multiple ballots by having a few hundred delegates abstain from voting on the first ballot is the better strategy.

Nonetheless, if the Rules Committee does keep the issue alive by sending the conscience clause to the floor of the convention, it could take on life in a way that’s hard to predict.

And Lee is at the heart of this battle. His support for or against the conscience clause proposal will send a powerful signal to those among the other 111 members of the Rules Committee who are wavering. Lee’s wife, Sharon — who, like her husband, was chosen by the other Utah delegates to represent them on the committee — is believed likely to follow his lead, so his decision could swing two votes of the 28 required to bring the motion to the floor. One member of the Rules Committee said many members believe that Lee’s support could be crucial.

A spokesman for Lee said Tuesday that the senator has made up his mind how he will vote and will share his decision with other members of the committee this week.

“Everyone’s lobbying him,” said a senior Trump campaign official.

So far, Lee has been tightlipped about his intentions. There are plenty of reasons, however, why he would vote against Trump on this issue.

Lee has publicly expressed his deep reservations about Trump’s candidacy. Very recently, he said in an interview with NewsMaxTV that Trump had made “religiously intolerant” statements, referring to Trump’s proposal to ban Muslims from entering the country. Lee noted that Trump is “wildly unpopular” in Utah, which is home to millions of members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, a “religious minority… who were ordered exterminated by the governor of Missouri in 1838.”

“I’d like some assurances that he’s going to be a vigorous defender for the U.S. Constitution,” Lee said.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-lee-tea-party-senator-000000315.html
 
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This I think happens toady. They need 28 votes to get a minority report, which will have a conscience clause. If they get it, then it goes to a floor vote to unbind the delegates.
 
This is the last stand for the ‘Never Trump’ movement. Here’s what might happen.

CLEVELAND — This is the last stand for the "Never Trump" movement.

Just days before formally nominating Donald Trump as its presidential candidate, the Republican Party must first sort out exactly how that will happen and put down an insurrection among delegates still upset with what's poised to transpire.

The forum will be the rules committee of the Republican National Convention — a 112-member body composed of two representatives from 56 states and territories. The group includes two lawmakers, one Senate spouse, dozens of grass-roots activists and 42 members of the Republican National Committee — a separate body that acts as the party's board of directors but takes its cues from RNC Chairman Reince Priebus.

In most years, the committee's work is little-noticed, because the party's presidential nominee is a sure thing and any changes enacted by the panel usually don't apply until the next presidential election.

But this year, a coalition of anti-Trump groups, working under the umbrella name Free the Delegates, is planning to introduce a series of changes that could spark genuine drama on the floor of the convention next week. Or the group will be quickly exposed as an unorganized band severely outgunned by Trump supporters and the party's ruling intelligentsia.

By next week, Trump will be on the cusp of formally accepting the Republican nomination for president. He is poised to be formally nominated by the convention Monday and scheduled to accept the nod next Thursday night.

The political situation here in Cleveland is fluid and will be influenced by outside forces, including Trump's choice of a running mate. But here's a general sense of what to expect in the coming days:

SCENARIO 1: DONALD TRUMP EASILY SAILS TO THE NOMINATION

Likelihood: Better than most.

This happens if the “Never Trump” forces fail to secure the votes needed on the rules committee to change the rules — and fail to get even the 28 votes that are needed to introduce their proposal as a "minority report" to the full Republican National Convention. (More on that below.)

Under this scenario, just one potentially semi-related embarrassing scenario remains: Do delegates upset with Trump's nomination start leaving Cleveland before Thursday night?

With so many top Republicans already skipping the convention, there is some fear among top GOP leaders that rank-and-file delegates might also come up with excuses — the city's strict security procedures, a long-scheduled root canal — and flee as soon as they've completed their official duties. That would force the Trump campaign to scramble to fill empty seats in the arena. The likelihood of this won't be known until Tuesday or Wednesday.

[In GOP platform fight, Donald Trump is a distant presence]

SCENARIO 2: DELEGATES BECOME 'UNBOUND'

Likelihood: Depends on how things go in the committee meeting.

The future of the "Never Trump" movement now rests on this scenario.

Kendal Unruh, a rules committee member from Colorado, is attending her eighth GOP convention this year. A longtime supporter of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), she's the face of Free the Delegates and the one leading the charge on the panel to change how the convention nominates Trump. She's joined in her campaign by Curly Haugland, a committee member from North Dakota.

The pair plan to introduce a proposal that would formally "unbind" delegates from the results of the contests held in the states and territories. Under this scenario, delegates would be allowed to "vote their conscience" — meaning that a delegate from a state that voted for Trump could opt to vote for Cruz, or another person.

Priebus and the RNC are opposed to such moves, saying that current party rules require delegates to be bound to the results of contests. But Haugland, whose involvement in GOP politics dates back decades, has been trying for years to reset the rules to a process used long before the party relied on caucuses and primaries to pick a candidate.

Keep an eye on two key swing votes: Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), and his wife, Sharon Lee. They're representing Utah on the committee and haven't signaled how they would vote. Given Lee's loyal following in conservative and tea party circles, some other delegates may see his support for the proposal as political air cover.

If Unruh can win over the Lees, "It's easy street for us," she said.

She believes that her proposal has the support of at least 30 committee members. If Lee comes aboard, the number could climb higher than 30, she said. That's still far short of the 56 needed for a rules change to pass, but it's more than the 28 needed to file a "minority report."

Under convention rules, minority reports issued by a committee can be introduced to the full convention after it formally convenes Monday. Once the formalities are dispensed with, the convention chairman will instruct the convention committees on credentials, platform and rules to quickly meet again off the floor to wrap up unfinished business.

That's when Unruh, Haugland and their like-minded colleagues will signal whether they still have the votes needed to file a minority report. If they succeed, the proposal will be presented to the full convention for a vote.

If it's rejected, it's game over. If it's approved, tune in for the first convention-floor fight of the 21st century.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ive-guide-to-the-rnc-rules-committee-meeting/
 
This is the last stand for the ‘Never Trump’ movement. Here’s what might happen.

CLEVELAND — This is the last stand for the "Never Trump" movement.

Just days before formally nominating Donald Trump as its presidential candidate, the Republican Party must first sort out exactly how that will happen and put down an insurrection among delegates still upset with what's poised to transpire.

The forum will be the rules committee of the Republican National Convention — a 112-member body composed of two representatives from 56 states and territories. The group includes two lawmakers, one Senate spouse, dozens of grass-roots activists and 42 members of the Republican National Committee — a separate body that acts as the party's board of directors but takes its cues from RNC Chairman Reince Priebus.

In most years, the committee's work is little-noticed, because the party's presidential nominee is a sure thing and any changes enacted by the panel usually don't apply until the next presidential election.

But this year, a coalition of anti-Trump groups, working under the umbrella name Free the Delegates, is planning to introduce a series of changes that could spark genuine drama on the floor of the convention next week. Or the group will be quickly exposed as an unorganized band severely outgunned by Trump supporters and the party's ruling intelligentsia.

By next week, Trump will be on the cusp of formally accepting the Republican nomination for president. He is poised to be formally nominated by the convention Monday and scheduled to accept the nod next Thursday night.

The political situation here in Cleveland is fluid and will be influenced by outside forces, including Trump's choice of a running mate. But here's a general sense of what to expect in the coming days:

SCENARIO 1: DONALD TRUMP EASILY SAILS TO THE NOMINATION

Likelihood: Better than most.

This happens if the “Never Trump” forces fail to secure the votes needed on the rules committee to change the rules — and fail to get even the 28 votes that are needed to introduce their proposal as a "minority report" to the full Republican National Convention. (More on that below.)

Under this scenario, just one potentially semi-related embarrassing scenario remains: Do delegates upset with Trump's nomination start leaving Cleveland before Thursday night?

With so many top Republicans already skipping the convention, there is some fear among top GOP leaders that rank-and-file delegates might also come up with excuses — the city's strict security procedures, a long-scheduled root canal — and flee as soon as they've completed their official duties. That would force the Trump campaign to scramble to fill empty seats in the arena. The likelihood of this won't be known until Tuesday or Wednesday.

[In GOP platform fight, Donald Trump is a distant presence]

SCENARIO 2: DELEGATES BECOME 'UNBOUND'

Likelihood: Depends on how things go in the committee meeting.

The future of the "Never Trump" movement now rests on this scenario.

Kendal Unruh, a rules committee member from Colorado, is attending her eighth GOP convention this year. A longtime supporter of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), she's the face of Free the Delegates and the one leading the charge on the panel to change how the convention nominates Trump. She's joined in her campaign by Curly Haugland, a committee member from North Dakota.

The pair plan to introduce a proposal that would formally "unbind" delegates from the results of the contests held in the states and territories. Under this scenario, delegates would be allowed to "vote their conscience" — meaning that a delegate from a state that voted for Trump could opt to vote for Cruz, or another person.

Priebus and the RNC are opposed to such moves, saying that current party rules require delegates to be bound to the results of contests. But Haugland, whose involvement in GOP politics dates back decades, has been trying for years to reset the rules to a process used long before the party relied on caucuses and primaries to pick a candidate.

Keep an eye on two key swing votes: Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), and his wife, Sharon Lee. They're representing Utah on the committee and haven't signaled how they would vote. Given Lee's loyal following in conservative and tea party circles, some other delegates may see his support for the proposal as political air cover.

If Unruh can win over the Lees, "It's easy street for us," she said.

She believes that her proposal has the support of at least 30 committee members. If Lee comes aboard, the number could climb higher than 30, she said. That's still far short of the 56 needed for a rules change to pass, but it's more than the 28 needed to file a "minority report."

Under convention rules, minority reports issued by a committee can be introduced to the full convention after it formally convenes Monday. Once the formalities are dispensed with, the convention chairman will instruct the convention committees on credentials, platform and rules to quickly meet again off the floor to wrap up unfinished business.

That's when Unruh, Haugland and their like-minded colleagues will signal whether they still have the votes needed to file a minority report. If they succeed, the proposal will be presented to the full convention for a vote.

If it's rejected, it's game over. If it's approved, tune in for the first convention-floor fight of the 21st century.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ive-guide-to-the-rnc-rules-committee-meeting/

 
They won't win a floor vote. The teleprompter has already decided.

No sh#t. The last thing they want is open revolt to bring the whole system down, which is precisely what would happen in your fantasy scenario.
 
No sh#t. The last thing they want is open revolt to bring the whole system down, which is precisely what would happen in your fantasy scenario.

It's not my scenario, it's just a scenario.
 
As Trump prepares to unveil VP pick, Republican delegates scramble to ward off rules revolt

CLEVELAND -- Republicans setting the GOP's presidential nomination rules abruptly recessed for more than three hours on Thursday as top party leaders seek to thwart a revolt among delegates eager to revamp the GOP's command structure and the process of nominating Donald Trump.

The RNC Rules Committee convened early Thursday to begin a cumbersome review of the party's 42 rules on structure and the selection of a presidential candidate. But the panel took two breaks within the first hour as the chairwoman explained that "a printer jam" on the machine responsible for printing proposed amendments forced a delay.

Later, Enid Mickelsen, the former Utah congresswoman chairing the committee, said it would break until 1 p.m. to sort out technical issues and other matters.

[This is the last stand for the ‘Never Trump’ movement. Here’s what might happen.]

The recess came as Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus were spotted arriving to observe the meetings.

Meanwhile, Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) and his wife, Sharon Lee -- two key swing votes in the delegate "unbinding" debate -- joined former Virginia attorney general Ken Cuccinelli and other delegates in a closed-door meeting down the hall from the committee.

Cuccinelli is leading a campaign to rewrite party rules in order to ban lobbyists from serving on the RNC and to take other powers away from Priebus. Another group wants to add rules language that would officially "unbind" delegates from the results of caucuses and primaries and allow them to vote however they want. Doing so would likely spark a floor fight next week -- chaos that Republicans are eager to avoid.

Manafort told reporters that the Trump campaign is not worried about the possibility of enough committee members voting to produce a "minority report" of ideas rejected by the rules committee that would be introduced to the full Republican National Convention next week. He added that the campaign is "not involved" in ongoing negotiations.

Talks have been underway for weeks among RNC leadership and the anti-Trump "unbinding" delegates to ward off a fight that would earn outsize scrutiny from the world's press corps as Trump announces his running mate and prepares to accept the Republican presidential nomination.

While the group of renegade delegates insists that they have at least 28 votes on the committee to force a "minority report" proposing that delegates become unbound, RNC officials predict that the group will fall far short.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-delegates-scramble-to-ward-off-rules-revolt/
 
Cuccinelli is Ted Cruz's guy in there, he reportedly has tried to get the early states for 2020 to be closed contests.




Shit like this didn't happen in 2012:

 
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