Mike Church offering two good bits of advice

[Decay]

Who the f is mike church, and is English his first language?
Both of the topics have been addressed several times,
to my complete satisfaction.

If they can't understand Ron Paul,
it's because they don't want to.
Next Case ...

Next case nothing. Paul may already have your vote, but he's missing millions of others. If voters are dissatisfied with a candidate's stance or presentation, that candidate must work hard to fix that as much as possible. He can't just say, "Deal with it." Every candidate must win people over. That's how elections are won.

 

[A. Havnes]

Would a town hall meeting, even if broadcast, be watched by most voters? Most of them will just wait and see what Fox News has to say about it later on. I know plenty of voters who don't actually watch the debates, but rather read about them, or catch what the news has to say about them the following day. I don't know that a meeting would be any different.

However, it would provide supporters with soundbites and youtube clips to make go viral!

 

[Decay]

Would a town hall meeting, even if broadcast, be watched by most voters? Most of them will just wait and see what Fox News has to say about it later on. I know plenty of voters who don't actually watch the debates, but rather read about them, or catch what the news has to say about them the following day. I don't know that a meeting would be any different.

However, it would provide supporters with soundbites and youtube clips to make go viral!

I think there are a lot of people out there who would love to support Ron Paul but are terrified by "their understanding" of his foreign policy. I believe those people would be all over it.

 

[daviddee]

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[Decay]

Newsletters:

I think a percentage of us have a firm idea who wrote them... Dr Paul won't throw that person under the bus and that person does not have the desire to take credit for them.

Regardless, it is a "gotcha" situation. If the person that wrote them took credit, then it would turn to: "Ron Paul, why do you associate with racists?" from "Ron Paul why did you write these newsletters?"

When did you stop beating your wife?

So, the newsletters do not have an easy solution...

Mike Church made a point about that too. He said Paul shouldn't disclose the name of the author, but simply take responsibility for the publishing and disagree with what was written, accepting it as a mistake.

 

[SonofThunder]

Who the f is mike church, and is English his first language?
Both of the topics have been addressed several times,
to my complete satisfaction.

If they can't understand Ron Paul,
it's because they don't want to.
Next Case ...

Folks like this ^^^ need to get out of the Ron Paul bubble every once in a while. Sure, most of us here on this forum understand this issue and pretty much every issue, but the general public does not, and unfortunately in elections you have to get a majority of the general public to vote for you, not just your hard-line supporters.

 

[kuckfeynes]

He's right. When the MSM gets desperate, and they will, expect them to push HARD on this. They most certainly will try to back both Ron and Lew into a corner (thanks Reason), and somebody is going to have to be more assertive about it than either has been, or they will simply write their own story. To that end, he should be ready and expect them to start emphasizing all sorts of associations with the more hardcore wing of the liberty movement. They tried to paint him as crazy and failed. So naturally the next step is crazy by association. And that has the potential to get nasty.

 

[odamn]

Next case nothing. Paul may already have your vote, but he's missing millions of others. If voters are dissatisfied with a candidate's stance or presentation, that candidate must work hard to fix that as much as possible. He can't just say, "Deal with it." Every candidate must win people over. That's how elections are won.

Ok, Thanks for the education.
I had no idea how elections worked.
I was just questioning the beating of a dead horse.
If ppl like church (whoever he is) can't understand
the explinations Ron's already given, then they must not
understand english, and therefore won't understand it
no matter how many times it is explained.
or maybe someone will have to draw them all a picture ...
It's a good thing we have such talented film makers on our side ...

 

[sailingaway]

He has done the first, accepting moral responsibility for lack of oversight, but they keep bringing it up over and over and over. The Iran townhall should showcase alternate ideas Ron has, because he has many, and the impression many have is 'he won't do anything' which is absolutely wrong.

 

[sailingaway]

Mike Church made a point about that too. He said Paul shouldn't disclose the name of the author, but simply take responsibility for the publishing and disagree with what was written, accepting it as a mistake.

He has DONE that, multiple times. The media ignores it.

 

[shrugged0106]

Ok, Thanks for the education.
I had no idea how elections worked.
I was just questioning the beating of a dead horse.
If ppl like church (whoever he is) can't understand
the explinations Ron's already given, then they must not
understand english, and therefore won't understand it
no matter how many times it is explained.
or maybe someone will have to draw them all a picture ...
It's a good thing we have such talented film makers on our side ...

Mike Church has been an awesome advocate for Paul and he was once a neo-con that then saw the light (like a lot of us)

He has a huge radio audience

 

[odamn]

Mike Church has been an awesome advocate for Paul and he was once a neo-con that then saw the light (like a lot of us)

He has a huge radio audience

O thanks!
I honestly didn't know who he was, or why we should
care what he thinks.
What station is he on?

 

[Decay]

He has DONE that, multiple times. The media ignores it.

I've seen him explain it several times as well, and I still feel he could be more precise and stronger on the issue. The way he answers it sometimes makes it appear as if there are some loose ends and secrets. I accept his answer as a supporter, but I understand how some people may not be convinced.

 

[Decay]

O thanks!
I honestly didn't know who he was, or why we should
care what he thinks.
What station is he on?

SiriusXM Patriot

 

[Decay]

Ok, Thanks for the education.
I had no idea how elections worked.
I was just questioning the beating of a dead horse.
If ppl like church (whoever he is) can't understand
the explinations Ron's already given, then they must not
understand english, and therefore won't understand it
no matter how many times it is explained.
or maybe someone will have to draw them all a picture ...
It's a good thing we have such talented film makers on our side ...

No need to be sarcastic. I'm just stating the facts. If voters are confused or put off by something, instead of telling them to go fuck themselves, try a better approach at educating them. And Mike Church understands Ron Paul completely, he's just making the point that he needs to change his techniques in order to strengthen his campaign.

 

[Todd]

Who the f is mike church, and is English his first language?
Both of the topics have been addressed several times,
to my complete satisfaction.

If they can't understand Ron Paul,
it's because they don't want to.
Next Case ...

Sooooo glad you are not running Ron's campaign.

 

[odamn]

Sooooo glad you are not running Ron's campaign.

lol, no i don't want to run anything.
i wouldn't be any good at it.
i have very low tolerances.
and am a little sourcastick by nature.
i'm trying to improve myself,
but i've got a ways to go.
Have a Nice Day ...

 

[RayB]

Hi, new here fwiw.
I disagree they (newsletter/Iran) are not keystone topics- money. He needs to talk money, economics to the working Joe. Further show how corporate welfare and Govt. favoritism has gutted the life savings of regular Americans and what that means in ordinary language, but how to fix it is the key.

 

[Decay]

Hi, new here fwiw.
I disagree they (newsletter/Iran) are not keystone topics- money. He needs to talk money, economics to the working Joe. Further show how corporate welfare and Govt. favoritism has gutted the life savings of regular Americans and what that means in ordinary language, but how to fix it is the key.

He's already strong on that issue. Even the big government neocons agree with him on economics. That's no longer an issue that he needs to try and win people over with.

 

[Southron]

Who the f is mike church, and is English his first language?

Here is a good article about Mike.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/mike-church-the-most-radical-man-on-the-radi/