Michael McPadden - VA 5th Congressional District

[Solovskoy]

Discussion

Spam? I thought this was were we discussed McPadden and liberty?

 

[malkusm]

Spam? I thought this was were we discussed McPadden and liberty?

You have continuously written or posted deceitful things about McPadden's campaign over the past two months, perhaps hoping that no one would call you out on having an obvious conflict of interest. You might have more credibility if you prefaced your statements with "As his former campaign manager...." but unfortunately, you feel the need to post negative things while concealing facts that may change the perspective of the reader.

You may discuss McPadden or liberty all you want on these forums, but you will be confronted when you post things like "Maybe it is time for McPadden to throw in the towel," or "McPadden's campaign looked the shabbiest of them all." He is a candidate that has been endorsed by Liberty Slate, www.liberty-candidates.org , and generally has a message that aligns with our views. Your obviously biased viewpoints will not go over well here - and, as is apparent from people who are following this race (as I am), you have an obvious agenda, not to report facts about the race, but to present the facts as you see them in your disgruntled viewpoint.

 

[Solovskoy]

Everything I have published about McPadden is 100% true

MALKUSM,
Let me be very clear - nothing I have posted anywhere has been "deceitful things" that is an offensive comment you have made and I resent the allegation.
I believe you have accepted as true the misrepresentation of the facts that have come from McPadden and his operatives and that is very sad.

I do not have a conflict of interest - my interest is to expose McPadden for who he is.

When I resigned from McPadden for Congress I was silent while his organization began to attack me, my character, and my reputation. I consider his actions as reprehensible but I remained silent even when close friends began to tell me about his efforts to slander my good name. I understood that for some to look good they have to make others look bad. I remained silent trusting that I had done the right thing in leaving McPadden for Congress in the face of McPadden drawing first blood.

Then McPadden crossed a line I could not tolerate, he threatened my liberty.

According to Ron Ferrin another candidate in this race McPadden threatened that if he was elected he would make it his life work to stop me from every holding public office or a pulpit east of the Mississippi. When I heard this from Ferrin I was shocked - McPadden had gone off the deep end, he was convinced that I was organizing a campaign against him and had I aligned myself with his perceived enemies. Even at this point the only thing out on the internet was my resignation letter; I had said nothing to anyone that was not in the letter, nor had I blogged about anything regarding McPadden.

I allowed several weeks to pass even after I discovered this blatant violation of the principle of liberty.

I have been shocked by my naïveté of Libetarians – I really expected much more in the form of honesty and debate. I also expected to see libetarians coming to my defense because of McPadden's attacks and threat. I have been shockingly disappointed.

My impression is that generally Libertarians are good Americans who want freedom - I get that. And because y'all in this forum are supporting McPadden it only seems right to share with you and discuss the deception of McPolitian. I just cannot except that good Americans who want liberty are willing to be ignorant of the fact and then support this caliber of character. I just cannot accept that.

When I began to blog about McPolitician and I began to write articles about him my focus was to expose him for who he really is and to strip away the veneer that he has created. I was expecting extreme libertarians to dig in and support McPadden and some have. But I was also expecting that an honest debate of the issues would occur since most libertarians I know want to debate - this hasn’t happened. What has happened is that McPadden refuses to answer questions and his operatives continue to attack me on various blogs with ad hominems.

Granted I am painting with a brood brush here about libertarians and I do not mean to offend. I am sorry if I have. I really believe that conservatives and libertarians have much in common and want many of the same things out of government and society, but I cannot believe that people, good Americans want bad leaders who do whatever it takes to get elected.

I still continue to hold out hope that some will see McPadden for who he really is – everything I have published about McPadden is 100% true, nothing is false. The facts are out there on various websites and blogs. Statements made have been confirmed by others and the facts are verifiable – if only someone made the time to check.

Sincerely,
Rev. Joshua Daniel Solovskoy

 

[Todd]

I still continue to hold out hope that some will see McPadden for who he really is – everything I have published about McPadden is 100% true, nothing is false. The facts are out there on various websites and blogs. Statements made have been confirmed by others and the facts are verifiable – if only someone made the time to check.

This thread has been derailed long ago. Like I said before, if McPadden's a fake then only time will tell. There are people here who will listen to the points and listen to your story. But not with slander and ad hominems. Post links to these "verifiable and confirmed facts" you speak of. You say you have the proof?

If that's the case then you should start another thread, but don't do it in this one. Do it in General politics where it will get more traffic and let the debate begin there. There's alot of very intelligent and savy people on this forum who I'm sure can weigh in on how legitimate a candidate he is to the cause of liberty and sort through to find the truth.

In my opinion he's still the best candidate in the batch and is speaking to core of the problems we have. Not to mention Malkusm's point about his endorsements from Liberty slate. Those things alone do not predict personality.

Most of us cannot speak of his secret alter ego personality you speak of, because we don't know him.


And another thing.

If there has ever been a forum with less naivete it is this one. That's not a very fair assessement being that what you are talking about is a personal experience that no one here has any first hand knowledge of.

 

[malkusm]

I do not have a conflict of interest - my interest is to expose McPadden for who he is.

When I resigned from McPadden for Congress I was silent while his organization began to attack me, my character, and my reputation. I consider his actions as reprehensible but I remained silent even when close friends began to tell me about his efforts to slander my good name. I understood that for some to look good they have to make others look bad. I remained silent trusting that I had done the right thing in leaving McPadden for Congress in the face of McPadden drawing first blood.

Then McPadden crossed a line I could not tolerate, he threatened my liberty.

According to Ron Ferrin another candidate in this race McPadden threatened that if he was elected he would make it his life work to stop me from every holding public office or a pulpit east of the Mississippi. When I heard this from Ferrin I was shocked - McPadden had gone off the deep end, he was convinced that I was organizing a campaign against him and had I aligned myself with his perceived enemies. Even at this point the only thing out on the internet was my resignation letter; I had said nothing to anyone that was not in the letter, nor had I blogged about anything regarding McPadden.

Nor has he blogged or written anything about you since your resignation. You obviously had your reasons for leaving the McPadden campaign, and I can understand and respect that; however, you're getting your information from Ron Ferrin, the same candidate who stated at one of the Tea Party debates that "if Israel bombed Iran today, I'd slap them on the back and buy them a drink." Forgive me if his word doesn't go very far with me - you'll need some more convincing evidence than that.

I have been shocked by my naïveté of Libetarians – I really expected much more in the form of honesty and debate. I also expected to see libetarians coming to my defense because of McPadden's attacks and threat. I have been shockingly disappointed.

No one here believes that personal threats and attacks of character are justified. But we all believe that a person is innocent of charges against him until proven guilty. You have no evidence of the attacks you speak of, except for hearsay - word-of-mouth from another candidate (who obviously has an interest in bringing down the campaign of a competitor).

My impression is that generally Libertarians are good Americans who want freedom - I get that. And because y'all in this forum are supporting McPadden it only seems right to share with you and discuss the deception of McPolitian. I just cannot except that good Americans who want liberty are willing to be ignorant of the fact and then support this caliber of character. I just cannot accept that.

When I began to blog about McPolitician and I began to write articles about him my focus was to expose him for who he really is and to strip away the veneer that he has created. I was expecting extreme libertarians to dig in and support McPadden and some have. But I was also expecting that an honest debate of the issues would occur since most libertarians I know want to debate - this hasn’t happened. What has happened is that McPadden refuses to answer questions and his operatives continue to attack me on various blogs with ad hominems.

You've asked your questions in various forums and outlets, and supporters of McPadden have responded to your questions. A candidate cannot be responsible for monitoring every website on which he is mentioned and replying to every personal question that comes his way. Furthermore, since you have the contact info of McPadden and others in the campaign, you have every opportunity to contact them and to resolve the dispute privately. It seems you haven't done that, instead choosing to air your grievances publicly and acting to tear down his campaign, all based on "personal attacks" that you heard through another candidate?

I'll leave it there, as there are a million better things to focus on right now (races nationwide, "End the Mandate," nullification of federal laws, etc.) .... As Todd said, if you feel the need to lay out the charges you seem to want to bring against McPadden, start your own thread about it and let people here be the judge.

 

[Todd]

Another internet Poll

Looks like there are some others that may want to consider throwing in the towel.

The point being that straw polls and internet polling is not an exact science and to suggest anything other than this is disingenuous in my opinion.


http://virginiafifthwatchdog.com/2010/05/new-unconfirmed-polling/

This was internal polling we did here at the UVA Center for Politics and is consistent with polling we have been doing throughout April..

Mike McPadden 31%
Undecided 27%
Robert Hurt 16%
Jim McKelvey 8%
Ken Boyd 7%
Feda Morton 4%
Ron Ferrin 4%
Laurence Verga 3%

 

[Va #5]

Vote!

http://virginiafifthwatchdog.com/2010/05/another-5th-district-poll/

Another online Poll. The race is getting pretty heated. Right now the main competitors are probably still Hurt, McPadden, and McKelvey. However, Morton is definitely making progress.

McPadden can definitely win! I for one am excited about it.

PS- JDS is a continual troll. He has a vendetta against McPadden and is overly vocal. As for proof, I and others have asked. All you'll get is the same tired points repeated.

 

[malkusm]

http://virginiafifthwatchdog.com/2010/05/another-5th-district-poll/

Another online Poll. The race is getting pretty heated. Right now the main competitors are probably still Hurt, McPadden, and McKelvey. However, Morton is definitely making progress.

McPadden can definitely win! I for one am excited about it.

PS- JDS is a continual troll. He has a vendetta against McPadden and is overly vocal. As for proof, I and others have asked. All you'll get is the same tired points repeated.

My feeling is that Ferrin and Verga are done and will get 5% or less. In any other year, Hurt would be the frontrunner, but this is an anti-establishment type year, and with so many horses in the race it's not as clear cut. I went down 460 to Roanoke this past weekend and McKelvey seems to own the areas around Bedford and west. The feeling is that Hurt will carry the areas in and around Danville. McPadden seems to have solid support near Charlottesville and the north part of the district.

Having seen the candidates debate, I can't believe that Morton is making the charge that she seems to be making. She seems disorganized and incapable of explaining any of the principles that supposedly guide her....that said, I believe she'll be a factor (and probably a spoiler) in the race. Her base seems to be the more socially conservative base, which makes me believe that she will open the door for either McPadden or McKelvey to win, as they have the most solid "Tea Party" support.

 

[RP4EVER]

Sadly Hurt has the support of Danville; not many opinions will change that.........if Hurt wins the 5th will have another choice as has been discussed elsewhere on this forum.

McPadden may do well in the eastern portion of the district because its mostly rural and the Liberty message resonates in those areas; Charlotte; Mecklenburg; Lunenburg and Brunswick Counties specifically.

 

[Solovskoy]

The Liberty message does not resonate in rural areas because most rural areas are strongly Christian Conservative. Those areas you mentioned will have some libertarians especially those disenfranchised by the hypocrites in the church. But as a whole those areas will go strong from Hurt and Morton and McKelvey before McPadden.

VA 5 because you hide under a pen name - like a troll hides under a bridge in Billy Goat Gruff - maybe you are the troll.

Tell us who you are so I can address your questions about McPadden directly, clearly and with small words so you can understand exactly what I am saying about McPolitician.

 

[RP4EVER]

I doubt Hurt will gain support in that area; Morton and McKelvey....maybe; the message of Freedom does resonate in rural areas because its the farmers who catch a lot of crap from the Feds. But time will tell.

 

[Aratus]

bump

 

[Kojac]

I've known Michael McPadden since I was about 9, having made friends with his older son in school. I'm 26 now, and over the past 17 years, he's been nothing less than a stand up guy who's always had my respect. He's intelligent, well spoken, is a dedicated father and husband in his personal life, and has phenomenal work ethic in his professional life. I started to figure out his political views as I started talking about my political views, and most of our discussions regarding the subject over the years have revolved around the ways government ought to protect "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" or the ways they're screwing up. The man knows his Constitution, Amendments, and an extensive amount of history, political philosophy, and economic theory. (and as I'm sure you've heard, his views on limited government are reminiscent of James Madisons'; a good thing in my book)

I got to see him speak in a Tea Party event today, and he's still well spoken and quick on his feet. He displays a depth of knowledge and a sincerity that none of his opponents present at the event could match.

Everyone he was up against had problems with one or more of the following: they were too establishment, too uninformed, too canned, too disingenuous, or too unpresentable.

The attacks on Mr. McPadden are unwarranted, and all easy to discredit with minimum effort.

Anyway, sorry for the shameless plug; he's a good, smart, charismatic candidate who understands how government should be run. I've also never seen him take s**t from anybody.

Vote for him if you get the chance.

~Kyle Pruett (A/D USMC)

 

[Aratus]

did the recent debate give him a boost in the polls?

 

[malkusm]

I've known Michael McPadden since I was about 9, having made friends with his older son in school. I'm 26 now, and over the past 17 years, he's been nothing less than a stand up guy who's always had my respect. He's intelligent, well spoken, is a dedicated father and husband in his personal life, and has phenomenal work ethic in his professional life. I started to figure out his political views as I started talking about my political views, and most of our discussions regarding the subject over the years have revolved around the ways government ought to protect "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" or the ways they're screwing up. The man knows his Constitution, Amendments, and an extensive amount of history, political philosophy, and economic theory. (and as I'm sure you've heard, his views on limited government are reminiscent of James Madisons'; a good thing in my book)

I got to see him speak in a Tea Party event today, and he's still well spoken and quick on his feet. He displays a depth of knowledge and a sincerity that none of his opponents present at the event could match.

Everyone he was up against had problems with one or more of the following: they were too establishment, too uninformed, too canned, too disingenuous, or too unpresentable.

The attacks on Mr. McPadden are unwarranted, and all easy to discredit with minimum effort.

Anyway, sorry for the shameless plug; he's a good, smart, charismatic candidate who understands how government should be run. I've also never seen him take s**t from anybody.

Vote for him if you get the chance.

~Kyle Pruett (A/D USMC)

Thanks for the great character reference - my experience with Mr. McPadden has been positive as well.

did the recent debate give him a boost in the polls?

There is no way to be sure, and I'm skeptical that they will poll this race again before the primary. McPadden has been to Lynchburg, Cumberland, Charlottesville, and Smith Mt. Lake in the last few days for candidate forums, and in the straw polls I'm aware of he finished second at the Lynchburg debate and first in the Charlottesville forum (a "Tea Party" forum). Signs are everywhere around the district and he probably has more signs around the Lynchburg area than every other candidate by a significant margin.

 

[Solovskoy]

This website has just come online - it was forwarded to me.
http://www.mikemcpadden.com/

 

[Kojac]

You're serious.

The very first attack claims he's lying about his service because he couldn't go through flight school and receive his wings the instant he began his service. They have to train people, y'know.

The second attack highlights YOUR departure from the campaign. Why are you tooting your own horn so much?

The third attack is a further explanation of why you left, but it links (badly )to a blog post of yours. IIRC, Mr. McPadden was considering or did hire someone who was gay to work on his campaign? I'm not familiar with all the details, but how does hiring someone of any sexual preference denote policy? As far as I was aware, people are hired based on qualifications.

Pretend one day that I'm running a software company, and I get hired by a Buddhist monastery to design a data management system for them. I'm a Christian, am I supporting a Buddhist agenda?

Do I really need to show how the rest of these claims are distortions of the truth?
Consider this: McPadden's biggest concern right now is the size and scope of the federal government. His focus is therefore (and rightly so) on the issue of enumerated powers and states' rights.
Consider this: McPadden is a a newcomer, he's going to get no special consideration when investigated for claims of impropriety of any sort in terms of a congressional election, yet there have only been accusations from people who are trying to smear him, nothing truly substantial.

 

[Todd]

You're serious.

The very first attack claims he's lying about his service because he couldn't go through flight school and receive his wings the instant he began his service. They have to train people, y'know.

The second attack highlights YOUR departure from the campaign. Why are you tooting your own horn so much?

The third attack is a further explanation of why you left, but it links (badly )to a blog post of yours. IIRC, Mr. McPadden was considering or did hire someone who was gay to work on his campaign? I'm not familiar with all the details, but how does hiring someone of any sexual preference denote policy? As far as I was aware, people are hired based on qualifications.

Pretend one day that I'm running a software company, and I get hired by a Buddhist monastery to design a data management system for them. I'm a Christian, am I supporting a Buddhist agenda?

Do I really need to show how the rest of these claims are distortions of the truth?
Consider this: McPadden's biggest concern right now is the size and scope of the federal government. His focus is therefore (and rightly so) on the issue of enumerated powers and states' rights.
Consider this: McPadden is a a newcomer, he's going to get no special consideration when investigated for claims of impropriety of any sort in terms of a congressional election, yet there have only been accusations from people who are trying to smear him, nothing truly substantial.

Never mind that distraction. It's pretty clear that McPadden is the best candidate of that bunch of Republican's. I will be pulling the lever for him that day because he has best articulated the problems we face. Some want to make issues out of his stances on lesser issues, but the facts remain if this country doesn't get a handle on Foreign policy and spending, then we will have bigger issues than a 1972 abortion law that NO Republican in congress is willing to address.

 

[Aratus]

is the primary this tuesday nite for mr. mcpadden?

 

[CoreyBowen999]

is the primary this tuesday nite for mr. mcpadden?

yes sir