Michael Badnarik's Constitution Class

Joseph,

This have been posted a lot. No offense intended but Badnarik, the self-taught Constitutional scholar is a joke. He's not anywhere near Dr. Paul's league. I voted for Dr. Paul in 1988 and Harry Browne both times, but there are limits.
 
Badnarik is not a very good instructor as evidenced in these videos, BUT, I still learned quite a bit from them which gave me a foundation for understanding many ideals later on.
 
Joseph,

This have been posted a lot. No offense intended but Badnarik, the self-taught Constitutional scholar is a joke. He's not anywhere near Dr. Paul's league. I voted for Dr. Paul in 1988 and Harry Browne both times, but there are limits.

This has been posted before? There's 42 parts, it's a very long. He has taught me a lot so far, so I don't see what's wrong here, how is he a bad instructor? It's a good crash course in the Constitution imo
 
Except for the small problem of it being anti semetic. During this course he speaks of Hitler and ties it to liberty. He begins by saying that Hitler was elected with like 98 percent of the vote. He frames it as if the people were in love with Hitler and wanted them as their leader. He doesn't mention that Hitler was elected to a lower position, then destroyed all positions above him to become the dictator. He then says that Hilter started writing newspaper articles blaming everything on the Jews and makes it seem like the Jews were in the wrong because they didn't write opposing view points in the newspapers. Does he not realize who owned the newspapers and what happened if they did not write what Hitler's organization wanted? Goebbels controlled the media at that time.....

http://www.historystudystop.co.uk/php/displayarticle.php?art
icle=69&topic=eme ----("As Minister of National Enlightenment and Propaganda, Dr. Josef Goebbels believed it was his job to win people over to Nazi ideas and make them totally loyal to Hitler. To do this he controlled the media. No book could be published without his permission. Newspapers were told what to print – any that did not comply were closed down. All Germany's radio stations were controlled and were used to hammer home the Nazi message. Goebbels even made cheap radio sets available and put up loudspeaker systems in the street. The mass rallies at Nuremberg were possibly the single most impressive displays of Nazi propaganda and the staging of the 1936 Olympics was also used to promote the regime in a similar way.
Music and the cinema were also closely controlled. Jazz was banned because it was the music of black Americans and all films – factual or fictional, thrillers or comedies – had to carry a pro-Nazi message. Newsreels in the cinema were designed to trumpet the achievements of the regime. The control of young people by means of education and youth movements was also important and is part of the next section. However, exactly how effective propaganda and censorship were cannot be accurately measured.")

He then goes on to say that Hitler made them wear the Star of David and instead of rising up and saying "That's a violation of my privacy rights" they wore the star because it was a religious symbol. Again, does he not realize what would have happened had they tried to stand up to wearing that star? They would have been jailed or murdered.

I thought a lot of Badnarik and his constitution class, but after watching that and hearing him try to act like the Jewish people were complicit in their demise, I have lost all respect.

Here is the video so you can see for yourself.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m68lUe40nXI
 
I enjoyed them and got a lot from his insights, but I'd agree there are caveats. He can be very funny. My favorite part was about the myth of the popular election and the plastic steering wheel - "I'm helping Daddy!"
 
That's not the point. This wasn't a class for Hitler studies, this was a class for the US Constitution. ;)

Agreed, but even Badnarik himself said if you vote for a Republican or Democrat and choose the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil. If you overlook this small, but very disturbing, part of this "scholars" take on world history, you are making a mistake. That is a pretty disgusting characterization to make.....
 
Agreed, but even Badnarik himself said if you vote for a Republican or Democrat and choose the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil. If you overlook this small, but very disturbing, part of this "scholars" take on world history, you are making a mistake. That is a pretty disgusting characterization to make.....

Well, I'm going to be voting for Ron Paul, so I won't be following that advice. Badnarik endorsed Ron Paul btw. He meant that both parties have lost their way, they're just names, only the third parties have remained true to their principles. He was definitely trying to plug the LP. There was a disclaimer before he said that, he said something like, "this is a generalization but..."
 
Badnarik is not anti semitic. He's just pointing out how people can be very short sighted with who they're electing, even when they have a big majority. I like his class, and I like him. Voting for the lesser of two evils IS voting for evil.
 
Badnarik is not anti semitic. He's just pointing out how people can be very short sighted with who they're electing, even when they have a big majority. I like his class, and I like him. Voting for the lesser of two evils IS voting for evil.

true. Did you hear any hate in there for Jewish people? I didn't. Don't you have to hate them in order to be considered an anti semitic? How can someone be anti semitic by a mere factual error? Give Badnarik the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, Hitler was appointed before he was elected, that's why what Badnarik said seemed a bit off, but I just went with the flow and forgot about it....
 
Badnarik is not anti semitic. He's just pointing out how people can be very short sighted with who they're electing, even when they have a big majority. I like his class, and I like him. Voting for the lesser of two evils IS voting for evil.

No, you are wrong. Those statements in that video clip I posted are EXTREMELY anti semetic. Instead of debating the clear points I stated you ignore them. It was not an issue of voting at all. Badnarik says that the Jews didn't stand up and write different newspaper articles when Hitler blamed them in the papers. That is ignorant on Badnarik's part, because the Nazi's owned the media! I put the evidence of that in my post. Then he says they didn't stand up to wearing the star of David. Again, he makes no comment about the fact that they would be jailed or killed if they didn't. He also makes it seem they were too lazy to argue property rights during the Night of Glass, yet we all know what would have happened to a Jewish person who would stand up and say, "Hey Nazi's stop breaking my windows!" They would have been jailed or killed. It was rediculous for Badnarik to act as if the Jewish people were complicit in their demise and you refuse to debate those facts.....
 
It was not an issue of voting at all. Badnarik says that the Jews didn't stand up and write different newspaper articles when Hitler blamed them in the papers. That is ignorant on Badnarik's part, because the Nazi's owned the media!
You may very well be right but ignorance doesn't = hatred of Jews.


It was rediculous for Badnarik to act as if the Jewish people were complicit in their demise and you refuse to debate those facts.....
Perhaps. But I think his overall point was that the Jews didn't do enough early on to stop Hitler and the antisemitism sweeping Europe at the time.
 
You may very well be right but ignorance doesn't = hatred of Jews.


Perhaps. But I think his overall point was that the Jews didn't do enough early on to stop Hitler and the antisemitism sweeping Europe at the time.


So what would you have suggested they did? How exactly were the Jewish people supposed to stop Hitler and the antisemitism early on? I'd like to hear this one.....
 
Ed and Elaine Brown are now in jail because they dared to challenge the legality of the federal income tax. Countless brave souls showed the same or greater courage during the reigns of Hitler and Stalin. But not enough people did. Badnarik's point is in no way demeaning to Jews. One can quibble with his inaccuracies, but he forcefully illustrates the complacency of the oppressed and the dark realm into which that complacency eventually leads. It is also a relevant observation of those in America who are perfectly happy with the steamrolling of their unalienable rights in the name of feeding off the national teat and partaking of its offers of "protection."

"It would seem that if only that kind of shout had been raised, all the stage sets would have collapsed, the plaster masks would have fallen off, the Producer would have fled down the backstairs, and the prompters would have sneaked off into their ratholes." - Solzhenitsyn
 
Ed and Elaine Brown are now in jail because they dared to challenge the legality of the federal income tax. Countless brave souls showed the same or greater courage during the reigns of Hitler and Stalin. But not enough people did. Badnarik's point is in no way demeaning to Jews. One can quibble with his inaccuracies, but he forcefully illustrates the complacency of the oppressed and the dark realm into which that complacency eventually leads. It is also a relevant observation of those in America who are perfectly happy with the steamrolling of their unalienable rights in the name of feeding off the national teat and partaking of its offers of "protection."

"It would seem that if only that kind of shout had been raised, all the stage sets would have collapsed, the plaster masks would have fallen off, the Producer would have fled down the backstairs, and the prompters would have sneaked off into their ratholes." - Solzhenitsyn

Ok, there is no comparison between the two. First off, Ed and Elaine Brown deserved to go to jail because they broke the law. Title 26 clearly makes one liable to pay income tax. If you don't like income tax fine, if you don't like the 16th amendment, fine, but you cannot say something is illegal when there is a law stating it. The Supreme Court has rejected all the claims that income tax is illegal that stem from Benson. Secondly, the Browns were not murdered for their civil disobedience. Are you insane to say that the Jewish people were complacent? If they objected they died! There is no comparison, and you try to hush hush the "inaccuracies" but I have yet to see one person debate the facts I stated. This is insane. One guy just posted, fight back or leave. Yeah that's real good. Fight back against the Nazi military. I can see where that would end. Or leave. How you plan on doing that? On public transportation that was run by the Nazi's? This way of thinking is frightening to me.......
 
Constitution Party / Institute on the constitution has lectures www.radioliberty.com monthly by David Whitney ... just look down the page and you'll usually find a recent show archived. They're also trying to do courses all over the country through their Institute on the constitution. www.iotconline.com ... very useful ... Dr . Stan has a lot of great anti-NWO guests on radioliberty too
 
I think these classes have a lot of value, especially for people who don't understand property rights. Rights and Privileges. And the meaning of gold backed currency.

For those people who dismiss him because he is self-taught... remember, Ron Paul is self-taught in economics too.... having a state certified instructor does not make one a professor of a subject.
 
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