Melania Trump Plagiarized Michelle Obama in Convention Speech

Trump supporters are surreal.

They practically come right out and say, "Trump is making fools of us! And we love it! It's brilliant!"
 
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Zippyjuan said:
Nothing is 100% truely original- everything is based on what came before. Question is how much is borrowing and how much is stealing?
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Seems the speechwriter borrowed a couple of sentences. Was it borrowed from Michelle or an earlier source?
 
I'm guessing Trump is getting close to dumping Melania anyway. She's already pretty old by Trump wife standards.
 
erowe1 said:
Trump supporters are surreal.

They practically come right out and say, "Trump is making fools of us! And we love it! It's brilliant!"
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That's not what the Trump supporters are saying at all.

They are saying "Trump is making fools of the haters! And we (the supporters) love it! It's brilliant!"

And in fact, it is.

He trolls the haters like a ninja, and plays the media like a violin.
 
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Jamesiv1 said:
That's not what the Trump supporters are saying at all.

They are saying "Trump is making fools of the haters! And we (the supporters) love it! It's brilliant!"

And in fact, it is.

He trolls the haters like a ninja, and plays the media like a violin.
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I'm trying to understand how supporters think this is a win for how people view his wife. Visual association with Michelle Obama? So you want me to make a mental parallel to the Obama administration? Or look at her and automatically think plagiarism? Is she so daft or the campaign so poor they couldn't write a unique speech without playing their audience for fools?

The speech doesn't make the "haters" 'look bad because they point out what was done. It sure does make those who gush about Melania look pretty silly, though.
 
I think this must be part of Trump's plan to lose to Hillary. He's getting too close and needs to come up with more ways to sabotage himself, lest he actually wins.
 
moostraks said:
I'm trying to understand how supporters think this is a win for how people view his wife. Visual association with Michelle Obama? So you want me to make a mental parallel to the Obama administration? Or look at her and automatically think plagiarism? Is she so daft or the campaign so poor they couldn't write a unique speech without playing their audience for fools?

The speech doesn't make the "haters" 'look bad because they point out what was done. It sure does make those who gush about Melania look pretty silly, though.
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He is targeting vulnerable people who feel like their identity and culture is being erased. He makes people think that he is fighting for them against a rigged system, that the system is biased against white Americans.. He wants people to think that he is their Obama. It's a populist approach which could work if people are dumb enough to fall for it. That being said I don't doubt that Trump would run on a different platform if he thought it would be more successful, I really don't think he means any of the sentiment.
 
SilentBull said:
I think this must be part of Trump's plan to lose to Hillary. He's getting too close and needs to come up with more ways to sabotage himself, lest he actually wins.
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Intersting to note that controversial historic FOPC called into Fox News during one of the most effective attacks on Clinton the GOP could muster, and drew their attention away:

 
moostraks said:
I'm trying to understand how supporters think this is a win for how people view his wife. Visual association with Michelle Obama? So you want me to make a mental parallel to the Obama administration? Or look at her and automatically think plagiarism? Is she so daft or the campaign so poor they couldn't write a unique speech without playing their audience for fools?

The speech doesn't make the "haters" 'look bad because they point out what was done. It sure does make those who gush about Melania look pretty silly, though.
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Its a win because with a wave of the hand they made Melania a household name. Anybody that watches Faux, CNN or MSNBC will hear "Melania, Melania, Melania..." for two days straight - maybe 100+ times AND they will see how attractive and well-spoken she is.

We're talking about average voters, the people who decide elections - not talking heads, and certainly not internet forum junkies (including yours truly).

Is political speech plagiarism even on the radar of an average voter? Do you think any of those people will remember this come November? I don't....
 
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Sad that this is the focus from last night, not some of the crazy shit that was said in the speeches. Also, not every fuck up is "omg Trump iz trollin da haterz". Sometimes it's just a fuck up.
 
nikcers said:
He is targeting vulnerable people who feel like their identity and culture is being erased. He makes people think that he is fighting for them against a rigged system, that the system is biased against white Americans.. He wants people to think that he is their Obama. It's a populist approach which could work if people are dumb enough to fall for it. That being said I don't doubt that Trump would run on a different platform if he thought it would be more successful, I really don't think he means any of the sentiment.
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There are programs that are "biased against white Americans." But more to the point, the productive class is targeted by government.
 
nikcers said:
He is targeting vulnerable people who feel like their identity and culture is being erased. He makes people think that he is fighting for them against a rigged system, that the system is biased against white Americans.. He wants people to think that he is their Obama. It's a populist approach which could work if people are dumb enough to fall for it. That being said I don't doubt that Trump would run on a different platform if he thought it would be more successful, I really don't think he means any of the sentiment.
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He's had pollsters studying it since at least 2011, possibly since 2004.
 
Really weak argument. The "plagiarized text" is as cliche as it gets, any B+ high schooler writing a speech could end up with similar cliche statements without copying anyone specific.
 
Mr Stealth said:
Really weak argument. The "plagiarized text" is as cliche as it gets, any B+ high schooler writing a speech could end up with similar cliche statements without copying anyone specific.
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The probability of that happening is exponential.
 
Jamesiv1 said:
That's not what the Trump supporters are saying at all.

They are saying "Trump is making fools of the haters! And we (the supporters) love it! It's brilliant!"

And in fact, it is.

He trolls the haters like a ninja, and plays the media like a violin.
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THIS^^ The guy has been writing about this for decades-it's no secret, but dayum, they're falling for it as if it was! :D
 
What I would do as a response if I was Trump would just pick Obama's speech on something neutral and just word for word say it and claim it as my own.

But I do think this was intentional it seems the media is always grabbed by shit people don't care about and all you left is with hearing Trump's name a hundred times.
 
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At least Limbaugh's callers drop all the pretense and are cognizant of the double standard.
 
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