Megyn Kelly tries to argue Epstein was not a pedophile...

unknown said:
Fuck this bitch.
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She may have gotten the call, idk, but I don't think the specific point being made here is vacuous. Child predators want to conflate the word "pedophile" to mean the same thing for 17 years 364 days, versus 5 years. They want that conflation in the public discussion because it actually benefits them. When "pedophile" can mean an 18 year old having sex with a 17 and 364 days old, then it loses its punch, it's not as dirty of a word. So the people who keep broadening the definition as widely as possible are not good people, those are the bad guys.

Epstein was not stupid. Based on the documentaries I've watched, etc, he also does not seem to have had the personality profile of being recklessly impulsive. So it seems kind of strange that the vast majority of the charges against him in the public discussion paint him out as this recklessly impulsive horndog pervert billionaire who blew all his cash on gratifying his sick urges. What may be going on here, is just what Kelly is saying -- it may be that Epstein was paying Ghislaine and his other handlers to fan out through various parts of the world where the consent age is considerably lower than in the US. I think Germany's consent age is 16. In other parts of the world, it can be as low as 14. As long as her legal ID is real, and as long as all the paperwork is done right, she can legally consent to come to his island and have sex with him. And if Trump's quote, "some of them are on the younger side" is indicative, then Kelly's claim here that they were specifically seeking out girls of legal consent age who looked significantly young for their age, then you could be talking about fully-legally consenting girls who were wined-and-dined to go out to the island, whose visible appearance may have been significantly younger than 16, 14 or whatever, since not everybody develops at the same pace.

The point of the previous paragraph is not to say that Epstein was anything other than an absolute, unqualified sicko. One need only glance over his "birthday book" to figure out exactly where his mindset was -- where all his friends/acquaintances knew his mindset was. But everyone who has covered him biographically -- including Whitney Webb -- has verified that Epstein was indeed highly intelligent. In addition, pretty much everything we know about how he arranged his life -- perhaps except his connection to Ghislaine -- was extremely defensive in nature, that is, the opposite of reckless. So, he's smart and careful. And he's a massive pervert with unlimited funds. Why take legal risks you don't need to take in order to scratch your itch?

With all of that said, the world is not what it appears to be. There is the superficial world, and then there is the occult world. The gateway to actually illegal sex, is nearly-illegal sex, same as with drugs or anything else. So, even if Kelly's source is right that Epstein was basically gaming consent laws to get as close as he could to illegal things he may have desired, that doesn't mean he wasn't also engaging in actually-illegal activity. The only problem is that we don't have any proof. We have a house that is billowing huge clouds of thick, black smoke out of every window, but nobody (in the public discussion) has any photos of the flames, any actual evidence of a crime being committed. So that's the sticking point.

PS: Also, as Whitney Webb has pointed out, the Establishment prefers us talking about Epstein's sexual proclivities rather than his money-laundering which, as she has documented, was his primary underworld occupation. If he was taping people -- and there is enough swirling smoke around this to justify strong speculation that he was, he may have been doing it in a very underhanded way. Namely, pay Ghislaine to fly around and find girls who are 14 or 15 and can legally consent, but who look closer to, say, 10 or 11, then relocate them to the island (above-board, no actual kidnapping occurring), then tell your blackmail targets that you're hooking them up with an 8 or 9 year old (because you can't prove they aren't just 8 and look 11), and now they're on tape doing things to what they believe is an 9 year old, but without having broken the law yourself in setting the whole thing up. Sick, yes. But this fits much better with the profile we have on Epstein than all this outrageous tabloid stuff that is being whooped up by the very people we should be most suspicious of (Establishment mouthpieces). We're all freaking out over a honeypot that, while deeply sick and immoral (and ought to be illegal), may have all been set up with fully legal paperwork, to create a honeytrap but was only a small part of Epstein's actual operations which, according to Webb, were primarily focused on the money laundering...
 
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unknown said:
She got the call.

Fuck this bitch.

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She never said that what Epstein did was OK.

I see this as pushback against the emotional hyperbole used by Pam Bondi and others to portray 17 year olds as small "children". It's a fair discussion to have, but the timing is bad.
 
ClaytonB said:
Child predators want to conflate the word "pedophile" to mean the same thing for 17 years 364 days, versus 5 years. They want that conflation in the public discussion because it actually benefits them. When "pedophile" can mean an 18 year old having sex with a 17 and 364 days old, then it loses its punch, it's not as dirty of a word. So the people who keep broadening the definition as widely as possible are not good people, those are the bad guys.
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Yeah, there is some hidden agenda going on. When smearing an evil person such as Epstein, the hyperbole is seen as OK, because he is a bad guy.

But there is a much larger trend going here. It's not just the Epstein case. It could just be a case of modern social media and the normalization of hyperbole to the point of dishonesty.

At the same time, there has been a larger agenda at play as we have seen with the 500 gender identities, drag queen story hour for children (not teenagers), transing children, etc.

Who does it benefit to conflate 4 year olds with 16 year olds? The transgender children advocates? The "love is love" pedophiles? The Marxist sowers of division, controversy, hate and victimhood?
 
acptulsa said:
It's also possible he kept the pubescent girls in the front room, and had a back room for the sickest of his sick "clients".
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Pam Bondi and others have insinuated that, but then they do their best to prevent us from knowing the truth.
 
ClaytonB said:
She may have gotten the call, idk, but I don't think the specific point being made here is vacuous. Child predators want to conflate the word "pedophile" to mean the same thing for 17 years 364 days, versus 5 years. They want that conflation in the public discussion because it actually benefits them. When "pedophile" can mean an 18 year old having sex with a 17 and 364 days old, then it loses its punch, it's not as dirty of a word. So the people who keep broadening the definition as widely as possible are not good people, those are the bad guys.

Epstein was not stupid. Based on the documentaries I've watched, etc, he also does not seem to have had the personality profile of being recklessly impulsive. So it seems kind of strange that the vast majority of the charges against him in the public discussion paint him out as this recklessly impulsive horndog pervert billionaire who blew all his cash on gratifying his sick urges. What may be going on here, is just what Kelly is saying -- it may be that Epstein was paying Ghislaine and his other handlers to fan out through various parts of the world where the consent age is considerably lower than in the US. I think Germany's consent age is 16. In other parts of the world, it can be as low as 14. As long as her legal ID is real, and as long as all the paperwork is done right, she can legally consent to come to his island and have sex with him. And if Trump's quote, "some of them are on the younger side" is indicative, then Kelly's claim here that they were specifically seeking out girls of legal consent age who looked significantly young for their age, then you could be talking about fully-legally consenting girls who were wined-and-dined to go out to the island, whose visible appearance may have been significantly younger than 16, 14 or whatever, since not everybody develops at the same pace.

The point of the previous paragraph is not to say that Epstein was anything other than an absolute, unqualified sicko. One need only glance over his "birthday book" to figure out exactly where his mindset was -- where all his friends/acquaintances knew his mindset was. But everyone who has covered him biographically -- including Whitney Webb -- has verified that Epstein was indeed highly intelligent. In addition, pretty much everything we know about how he arranged his life -- perhaps except his connection to Ghislaine -- was extremely defensive in nature, that is, the opposite of reckless. So, he's smart and careful. And he's a massive pervert with unlimited funds. Why take legal risks you don't need to take in order to scratch your itch?

With all of that said, the world is not what it appears to be. There is the superficial world, and then there is the occult world. The gateway to actually illegal sex, is nearly-illegal sex, same as with drugs or anything else. So, even if Kelly's source is right that Epstein was basically gaming consent laws to get as close as he could to illegal things he may have desired, that doesn't mean he wasn't also engaging in actually-illegal activity. The only problem is that we don't have any proof. We have a house that is billowing huge clouds of thick, black smoke out of every window, but nobody (in the public discussion) has any photos of the flames, any actual evidence of a crime being committed. So that's the sticking point.

PS: Also, as Whitney Webb has pointed out, the Establishment prefers us talking about Epstein's sexual proclivities rather than his money-laundering which, as she has documented, was his primary underworld occupation. If he was taping people -- and there is enough swirling smoke around this to justify strong speculation that he was, he may have been doing it in a very underhanded way. Namely, pay Ghislaine to fly around and find girls who are 14 or 15 and can legally consent, but who look closer to, say, 10 or 11, then relocate them to the island (above-board, no actual kidnapping occurring), then tell your blackmail targets that you're hooking them up with an 8 or 9 year old (because you can't prove they aren't just 8 and look 11), and now they're on tape doing things to what they believe is an 9 year old, but without having broken the law yourself in setting the whole thing up. Sick, yes. But this fits much better with the profile we have on Epstein than all this outrageous tabloid stuff that is being whooped up by the very people we should be most suspicious of (Establishment mouthpieces). We're all freaking out over a honeypot that, while deeply sick and immoral (and ought to be illegal), may have all been set up with fully legal paperwork, to create a honeytrap but was only a small part of Epstein's actual operations which, according to Webb, were primarily focused on the money laundering...
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Isn't this the exact opposite of what you said in the Q thread
 
acptulsa said:
It's also possible he kept the pubescent girls in the front room, and had a back room for the sickest of his sick "clients".
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From the infamous "birthday book":

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She went from what Trump sycophants call "Trump Derangement Syndrome" to "Trump Devotion Syndrome" right before our eyes.



 
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