McCain HAS NOT WON THE NOMINATION!

[wgadget]

This is what I have heard, but I do not know how true it is.

Even the bound delegates can vote for who they want. The only problem would be that they would get into some trouble with their state GOP.

But who would care about that anyway? Anyway, as I said, I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is... Holy shit.

If they pass some resolutions like the people in Texas are passing (see other threads), the delegates should get in trouble if they DO vote for McInsane.

 

[faisal]

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[satchelmcqueen]

the delegates are locked onto their candidate! Don't you guys know anything? McCain's delegates are for McCain! They can only change their minds in a Brokered Convention, which is over since McCain won an hour ago!

wrong. as stated before, he hasnt won anything.

 

[puppetmaster]

thank u for this thread satchel....all delegates need to make sure they show up to their convention!!!!

bump for positivity!!!!!!

Thats right, we will never quit, at least the ones who really care and not just think that life has dealt them a bad hand.

 

[V3n]

Are they counting Romney's delegates as McCain's?

 

[Zera]

bump for never giving up hope

 

[Cinderella]

bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im in this to win this!!!

 

[georgiaboy]

bump.
it is not over by far.
I too am new to this process of delegate selection for the national convention, and boundness of delegates. I've only recently discovered that each state GOP has their own rules for how their delegates are selected/elected, and how they are bound to vote. It is much more complicated than the media portrays.
We have our marching orders from Ron himself, which until they change, remain as: continue canvassing, continue getting as many primary votes and delegates to the national convention as possible.
This is far from over.
Get to work.

 

[EastWindRain]

The numbers reported are the pledged delegates. They are BOUND to vote for the person who wins the popular vote. That has been McCain. the only way the Ron Paul delegates can vote for RP would have been a brokered convention which now will not happen. It is over as far as winning the GOP. Now we must start getting TONS of money for the Indy run.

This is the conclusion that my thinking leads me to as well.

Let's see: (Correct me if I am wrong) These are now our choices:

1. The R.P. movement fights on to further the message even though R.P. is mathematically eliminated. This would be a good idea for R.P. 2012 if R.P. runs then.
2. Patriots who wish to continue the good fight can do the above by becoming (Ron Paul type) delegates, (it also changes the GOP slowly from within) but can also support Ron Paul's 3rd party run
3. America and the world sees how pathetic the two choices for the Presidency are, (Hillary or Obama and McCain) and are honestly open and begging for a respectable 3rd party Candidate which will be Ron Paul.

Sure it will be an uphill battle raising funds and getting TV exposure, but we have to try. The people will be open minded for a third voice. Now is our chance. Ron Paul should establish an Exploratory Committee for The Constitution Party.

The people need hope. They don't see any hope now with the GOP. If we don't capture the remaining Ron Paul momentum the movement will die, as it is now almost dead. (The number of members on this forum is WAY down)

We have 8 months to convince the U.S. citizens to vote for Ron Paul. We should get to work now and create the ultimate Ron Paul DVD and somehow give them away to every household in America.

This is where my thinking is leading me.

Edit: How many households are there in America? I would guess 300 Million divided by 4 people per house = 75 000 000 homes.

So we need 75 Million DVD's @ $1 / DVD = $75 Million Dollars we need to raise.
So 75 000 000 / 200 000 Ron Paul supporters = $ 375 contribution each for the 3rd party money bomb. This is obtainable. Then we just need to hand the DVD's out. (Again the DVD must be superb)

 

[puppetmaster]

bump.
it is not over by far.
I too am new to this process of delegate selection for the national convention, and boundness of delegates. I've only recently discovered that each state GOP has their own rules for how their delegates are selected/elected, and how they are bound to vote. It is much more complicated than the media portrays.
We have our marching orders from Ron himself, which until they change, remain as: continue canvassing, continue getting as many primary votes and delegates to the national convention as possible.
This is far from over.
Get to work.

seconded!!

 

[Zera]

This is the conclusion that my thinking leads me to as well.

Let's see: (Correct me if I am wrong) These are now our choices:

1. The R.P. movement fights on to further the message even though R.P. is mathematically eliminated. This would be a good idea for R.P. 2012 if R.P. runs then.
2. Patriots who wish to continue the good fight can do the above by becoming (Ron Paul type) delegates, (it also changes the GOP slowly from within) but can also support Ron Paul's 3rd party run
3. America and the world sees how pathetic the two choices for the Presidency are, (Hillary or Obama and McCain) and are honestly open and begging for a respectable 3rd party Candidate which will be Ron Paul.

Sure it will be an uphill battle raising funds and getting TV exposure, but we have to try. The people will be open minded for a third voice. Now is our chance. Ron Paul should establish an Exploratory Committee for The Constitution Party.

The people need hope. They don't see any hope now with the GOP. If we don't capture the remaining Ron Paul momentum the movement will die, as it is now almost dead. (The number of members on this forum is WAY down)

We have 8 months to convince the U.S. citizens to vote for Ron Paul. We should get to work now and create the ultimate Ron Paul DVD and somehow give them away to every voter in America.

This is where my thinking is leading me.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong! Paul has a 999999% better chance of winning if he stays with the GOP until the convention. Third party will get him nowhere. I'll bet you anything on it.

 

[syborius]

bump

 

[kyleAF]

OK, how many delegates does McCain have that ABSOLUTELY belong to him?
anyone know?

none at all

Seriously. Even the pledged delegates are free to vote the way they please. They'll just get admonished by their local GOP. Nothing more.

 

[Vet_from_cali]

bump.
it is not over by far.
I too am new to this process of delegate selection for the national convention, and boundness of delegates. I've only recently discovered that each state GOP has their own rules for how their delegates are selected/elected, and how they are bound to vote. It is much more complicated than the media portrays.
We have our marching orders from Ron himself, which until they change, remain as: continue canvassing, continue getting as many primary votes and delegates to the national convention as possible.
This is far from over.
Get to work.

your ignorance astounds me, maybe you havent been around for the past 3 months?
we have a hell of a hard time getting 10% in a state... how do you think we can pull the majority of delegates if we are pulling these kinda of numbers? i think the last time i checked we got 5% of the vote in texas.. not trying to be a troll or anything im just being realistic here. we've done great funding but as far as reaching to the general public we are doing horribly.. the person who said we would be in iraq for 100 years, in a country that 60-70% oppose the same war is WINNING. RP needs to bust out with something freaking AMAZING that would not only wake up some delegates but the general public IE. SHEEPS!!! really dont see your point of saying its far from over.. the establishment won this battle, but not the war IMO.

 

[Cinderella]

America and the world sees how pathetic the two choices for the Presidency are, (Hillary or Obama and McCain) and are honestly open and begging for a respectable 3rd party Candidate which will be Ron Paul. QUOTE]


america will not see how pathetic obaba or hitlery are....they are blinded by obamas satanical "charm" and hitlerys bill clinton back bone...


if ron paul does not get the republican nom expect to see obama or hitlery winning....in which case we will all be ubject to mandatory service....which will be needed now that we will probably be going to war with venezuela and ecuador.....

 

[Paulitician]

not trying to be a troll or anything

Troll!

 

[VRP08]

I like this thread!

 

[kyleAF]

Technically zero I think. Many if not all states allow you to revise their rules and unbind all delegates, and even if this doesn't happen I don't think anyone is LEGALLY forced to vote for McCain. Am I right about this?

Yes. Absolutely right.

We can go the route of trying to unbind delegates, but that will be difficult.

We can also go to the Convention and move to suspend the rules outright, but that requires a majority of delegates from 5 separate states... maybe possible, but not necessarily easy.

OR we can all just get there, and then vote against our pledge. Nothing is illegal about it at all.

I vote for option 3 myself, while trying for options 1 and 2 in the meantime.

 

[kyleAF]

The numbers reported are the pledged delegates. They are BOUND to vote for the person who wins the popular vote. That has been McCain. the only way the Ron Paul delegates can vote for RP would have been a brokered convention which now will not happen. It is over as far as winning the GOP. Now we must start getting TONS of money for the Indy run.

You are incorrect.

The brokered convention is meaningless.

All we have to do is ignore the pledge.

Stop spreading this misinformation.

Read the GOP's convention rules.

EDIT: An indy run is useless! really, it's USELESS. Stop promoting it, please.

 

[Vet_from_cali]

Troll!

lol