Marxism, what's so bad about it?

[AutoDas]

Communism would work if we didn't have this damn humanity.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Communism would work if we didn't have this damn humanity.

Well you've sure gotta give them credit for trying to create a better ( so called ) humanity, by killing off tens of millions of the current one.

"By their body count, ye shall know them."

"What has always made the state a hell on earth has been precisely that man has tried to make it his heaven."

 

[noxagol]

We can have utopia! We merely have to kill everyone that is unhappy! Yes, it really is that easy!

 

[Truth Warrior]

We can have utopia! We merely have to kill everyone that is unhappy! Yes, it really is that easy!

Then they'd just be "left" ( ) with a bunch of "happy" killers running things.

Sure sounds sociopathic to me. Kinda like the NWO.

 

[Kade]

You DO know what force is, right? It is when somebody physically directs your actions, physically harms you or threatens to physically harm you if you refuse to do their bidding.

Amazing that you have offered to educate all of us ignoramuses on so many occasions on the way things are and should be and yet your thinking is so muddled you can say something like "charity is socially forced".

So says you my little conformi-bot. Compulsion is also force.

 

[Kade]

A true liberal.

Nice sig.

 

[Conza88]

GREED: http://www.dailymotion.com/related/1023571/video/xlxq4_in-the-classroom-greed-part-1of3_life

Greed.

 

[Acala]

Ah, the great lie

Compulsion is also force.

This is the lie that ALL thinking socialists have to tell themselves to justify advocating a society based on the boot at the door and the gun butt in the face.

So, being expected to produce things of value for your fellow man before you can take something of value in exchange from your fellow man is the same as having men with guns come to your house and beat the crap out of you and take your property because you don't pay your taxes?

 

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

expectation is the cause of all suffering

 

[Kade]

This is the lie that ALL thinking socialists have to tell themselves to justify advocating a society based on the boot at the door and the gun butt in the face.

So, being expected to produce things of value for your fellow man before you can take something of value in exchange from your fellow man is the same as having men with guns come to your house and beat the crap out of you and take your property because you don't pay your taxes?

Gun butt in the face and boot at the door are also use of force. Your anger is noticeable but unwarranted conformi-bot, I will always side with the anti-authority.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Unless it's the state, of course.

 

[Kade]

expectation is the cause of all suffering

Exactly nonsensicalian!

I present, "Expecting Food".

A two part artistic representation of two stages of life. One side, suffering because it must wait longer for food, and the other side, suffering because it waited too long for food.

It also displays the unusual nature of humanity, in that often we can eat that which eats us.


I imagine that human culture gave us something wholly unique, the concept that perhaps suffering is the cause of all expectation?

 

[Acala]

Ah

Gun butt in the face and boot at the door are also use of force. .

So you do understand that the socialism you support is based on force, but your position is that all other systems are equally evil? Your position is that free exchange is actually the moral equivalent of armed robbery? Hahahaha!

Name calling will not distract me from my goal of elucidating the lie and immorality at the bottom of your position. Although I might lose interest eventually. So just admit that you think your values should be forced on other people at gun point because you are a superior form of man. Then we will al know where you stand.

 

[Kade]

So you do understand that the socialism you support is based on force, but your position is that all other systems are equally evil? Your position is that free exchange is actually the moral equivalent of armed robbery? Hahahaha!

Name calling will not distract me from my goal of elucidating the lie and immorality at the bottom of your position. Although I might lose interest eventually. So just admit that you think your values should be forced on other people at gun point because you are a superior form of man. Then we will al know where you stand.

I don't think I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing such a magnanimous twist in logic on these boards yet. Congratulations. You are inept.

That being said, I don't support socialism, and I am a free exchange absolutist. This further proves my point that you all must create enormous straw men in order to attempt to argue against me, and I am thriving off it, because even if I don't convince the majority of you morons that you are conforming to an obsolete form of economic "liberty" that actually stifles real liberty, I am winning the hearts and minds of the right liberty-minded people.

Continue promoting your form of group think absolutism, and propaganda, nobody with any common sense buys it, and anyone who knows where I stand knows better... you on the other hand, stand for only that which you hear, and only that which you can quote mine. When you come out of the box of conformity, give me a shout, and we can have a real discussion.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Except when you post.

 

[Kade]

I'm so glad I have your dumbass ignored. You are the only person with that distinction because you are the only person without a shred of original thought.

 

[Truth Warrior]

I'm so glad I have your dumbass ignored. You are the only person with that distinction because you are the only person without a shred of original thought.

Thus spake "Chairman Mao".

I'm glad too. It's much more fun me that way.

 

[Mesogen]

I have no problem with voluntary marxism--if a group of people want to get together and poo their money/resources/etc and share/own/use them equally, that's fine, it's when that group forces everyone to join their group.

If I could poo money, I would have way fewer problems.

 

[Kade]

I have no problem with voluntary marxism--if a group of people want to get together and poo their money/resources/etc and share/own/use them equally, that's fine, it's when that group forces everyone to join their group.

Do you advocate for forcing anything... I dunno, forcing women to keep their babies if they get pregnant, forcing people to pay taxes into a system that filters the money to religious proselytizing... that sort of nonsense?

 

[Zolah]

Do you advocate for forcing anything... I dunno, forcing women to keep their babies if they get pregnant

Protecting the baby's right to live would be a better way to put it, protecting the baby's right to not have its rights infringed by force.