Martin Armstrong's Economic Pi Cycle

It was a bit had to figure out what was going on with that, but it looks like he has been held for 7 years for hiding assets he claimed he didn't have (having transferred them to other parties). Basically, the judge in this case has created a debtors prison, which is totally outrageous.

After a somewhat in depth look at the cycle, it looks neat, but I couldn't find any websites that overlay his predictions with actual figures. Further, he doesn't seem to define exactly what he's charting. Just saying "something big is going to happen on X day" doesn't really help out that much. What I would need before I put any money behind this idea is some economist to analyze the historical data and predictions and make some sense out of this.

But thanks for posting the articles. I had never heard of either situation before.
 
tmosley said:
It was a bit had to figure out what was going on with that, but it looks like he has been held for 7 years for hiding assets he claimed he didn't have (having transferred them to other parties). Basically, the judge in this case has created a debtors prison, which is totally outrageous.

After a somewhat in depth look at the cycle, it looks neat, but I couldn't find any websites that overlay his predictions with actual figures. Further, he doesn't seem to define exactly what he's charting. Just saying "something big is going to happen on X day" doesn't really help out that much. What I would need before I put any money behind this idea is some economist to analyze the historical data and predictions and make some sense out of this.

But thanks for posting the articles. I had never heard of either situation before.
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My pleasure
Theres more to it than the above links
I will post a couple of more when I can find some decent articles

I was around when this was going down. The whole idea that a man can be imprisoned and denied a speedy trial has always bothered me. And the mysterious death of Edmond Safra also has me thinking from time to time. The male nurse who was convicted of starting the fire that killed Safra, was an Ex Green Beret.

As for the Economic Pi Cycle, Mr Armstrong wrote a book on it "The Greatest Bull Market In History" which is actually hard to find now.

It was downloadbale as a PDF but all of the sites have taken it down.

I have a few chapters in PDF and would like to get the rest, it is quite interesting.
 
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Wow, I'm floored. I've never seen a book disappear off of the internet like that before.

I'll ask Anonymous if he has a copy tonight. If I find the ebook, I'll let you know.
 
Thanks

Same issue with this site

Chapters 4 - 8 - 9 and a few others are not there
I will keep looking around for the missing chapters
 
Have you read "It's Just Time"copyright Oct 10,2008? Just ran across it from the Urban Survival site link through wiki. Had not heard of him but sounds interesting enough. Bookmarked to read as time allows. Will also take up the one you suggested,but wow!!! 576 pages. Better get the coffee going!!!
 
It's Just Time: By Martin Armstrong Oct. 2008

An interesting essay By Mr. Armstong.
Written Oct. 2008.

And yes he is still in jail.
He served 7 years for contempt of court, which seems ludicrous in itself.

He pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit fraud 2007, and was senteneced to an additional 5 years, and was fined.

Anyway I just started reading it, so far it seems very interesting.

It's Just Time



A little biographical info about Mr. Armstrong.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/16/b...nce/Times Topics/People/A/Armstrong, Martin A.


In 1999, Japanese fraud investigators determined that Armstrong had been collecting money from Japanese investors and improperly "commingling" those funds with funds from other investors—using the fresh money to cover losses he had incurred while trading, a form of Ponzi scheme. Armstrong was assisted in his scheme by the Republic New York bank, which produced false account statements to reassure Armstrong's investors, and which in 2001 agreed to pay $606 million as restitution for its part in the scandal.

Edmond Safra also founded the Republic National Bank of New York in 1966. He later opened Republic National Bank of New York (Suisse) in Geneva, and in 1988 formed Safra Republic Holdings S.A. Republic bank operated 80 branches in the New York area, making it the number three branch network in the metropolitan region behind Citigroup and Chase Manhattan.


By the early 1990s, Edmond Safra's fortune was an estimated at $2.5 billion. He was a major philanthropist. As he approached his 60s, the financier divided his time between his home in Geneva, New York and his villas including Villa Leopolda on the French Riviera. Weakened by Parkinson's disease, Safra required nursing care. In December 1999, Edmond Safra was killed in a fire that was deemed arson.

Ted Maher, his U.S.-born nurse, was arrested under suspicion of starting the fire, and was convicted of the crime in 2002 by the Monaco Court. He claimed that he started the fire to carry out a daring rescue, and thus increase his standing in the Safra family's eyes but he allegedly lost control of the fire unintentionally. This version of the murder is disputed by many who believe the plot to be extremely convenient.
 
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I read "It's Just Time" over Christmas. It was a very interesting read, however I didn't get all that much out of it other than something BIG is supposed to happen in April of this year(I forget the exact date), which he calls "The Great Convergence". This is a downward converging of all of the cycles in his model(political, economic, public/private, etc.).

For me it was a little hard to read because he seemed to jump all over the place and there didn't seem to be much flow to his writing. Maybe I'll try to find his book mentioned above.

I wonder if it's coincidence that there are many other people/groups claiming this April will be a pivotal month in this crisis and something major could happen (I'll add links where I can find them:o).
 
This is very interesting...I'm just glancing over it and haven't done any math yet...but can we relate this chart to forecast where gold will be moving? Any predictions, anyone?
 
Update: Downloaded his recent release "It's just time"

It reveals the 37.33 year monetary crisis cycle. However, I'm having trouble relating this to the price of gold. Can anyone else download the publication and give it a whirl? It's on page 27.

Also, if anyone is good with numbers, could they take the economic confidence model and project it backward to about 1900, so we can compare a chart from about 1900 to 2011 to a chart of gold running the same years? I'd try, but I'm horrible with math.
 
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I just did a search on the Armstrong Pi Cycle on google and this thread popped up on the first page of results. I should have just searched here first. :D

Good info, thanks.
 
tmosley said:
After a somewhat in depth look at the cycle, it looks neat, but I couldn't find any websites that overlay his predictions with actual figures. Further, he doesn't seem to define exactly what he's charting. Just saying "something big is going to happen on X day" doesn't really help out that much. What I would need before I put any money behind this idea is some economist to analyze the historical data and predictions and make some sense out of this.
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Well, this is a case of using the past to predict the future, and there's simply only so much you can do. Suffice to say two things: This is a measure of confidence in the system more than anything, and the lowest point of the Dow Jones during the Great Depression was at a node in the cycle that will recur on April 23rd of this year--just under two weeks from today.

Also note that the Dow historical charts show a 'dead cat bounce' that took about six months to peak and about a year to get back very close to that original 1932 low.
 
PatriotG said:
As for the Economic Pi Cycle, Mr Armstrong wrote a book on it "The Greatest Bull Market In History" which is actually hard to find now.

It was downloadbale as a PDF but all of the sites have taken it down.

I have a few chapters in PDF and would like to get the rest, it is quite interesting.
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it seems to be on a torrent site i found but its a membership only site and i think i can get in i will try to get it for you and spread it around to try and keep it alive
 
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