Marriage is a privilege?

[brandt]

Former Senator Rick Santorum stated that marriage is a privilege to be granted by the government. This should be dispersed.

 

[amy31416]

It should be dispersed as soon as there's a link to verify it.

 

[brandt]

Gotcha, I should have posted this along with the original post. Here a short article and a video of Santorum stating that "marriage is a privilege."

http://www.atvtoday.co.uk/index.php...-privilege-not-a-right&catid=5:lgbt&Itemid=11

 

[Enforcer]

Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967):

"Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival..."

 

[Krugerrand]

Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967):

"Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival..."

That needs clarification. Taken literally, that would mean that somebody is obligated to be my spouse.

 

[donnay]

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness...marriage is only a privilege when you have to ask the state for permission.

 

[Enforcer]

That needs clarification. Taken literally, that would mean that somebody is obligated to be my spouse.

It simply means that marriage is a civil right. It is not a privilege. I know a few ladies I wish were obligated to be my spouse... and I wasn't even looking to get married. But marriage is a right.

When I got divorced, the judge RULED in his decree that I "shall have the Right to remarry." I don't have to get married again, but if I do, it will NOT be by way of a traditional marriage license, but by way of RIGHT.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Well, "civil marriage" (i.e. a legal and recognized contract) is a "privilege" of sorts. It's not an enumerated power. IIRC, it just developed out of common practice. Religious marriage is a right. (good luck proving you're married in a situation like Wills, living testaments, and so on)

 

[MyEyesTheyBurn]

More evidence that Santorum is a big-government Republican. The government owns us, and doles out rights, privileges, and income as it sees fit.

 

[specsaregood]

Santorum sounds like an atheist. Needs government approval to tell him what is what? So if the government suddenly annulled his marriage he would not consider himself married?

 

[Enforcer]

Well, "civil marriage" (i.e. a legal and recognized contract) is a "privilege" of sorts. It's not an enumerated power. IIRC, it just developed out of common practice. Religious marriage is a right. (good luck proving you're married in a situation like Wills, living testaments, and so on)

If you want to be married, get a printed Marriage Certificate and have the religious authority of your choice to perform the ceremony. Consummate the marriage. In the eyes of your God, your spouse and those that attended your marriage ceremony, you're married.

The wife can apply for a name change.

Now, maybe that limits your ability to do some wills and get spousal Socialist Security benefits, but it's either a Right to be married or it is a privilege. So, do you want the government in your bedroom and in your private affairs now or do you want to put up with them later if your spouse wants to claim your Socialist Security benefits? It's a trade off to enforce your Rights, but you do have a choice.

 

[Johnnybags]

Santorum sounding more like something out of Nazi Germany every day. What a Kooky gadly.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

If you want to be married, get a printed Marriage Certificate and have the religious authority of your choice to perform the ceremony. Consummate the marriage. In the eyes of your God, your spouse and those that attended your marriage ceremony, you're married.

The wife can apply for a name change.

Now, maybe that limits your ability to do some wills and get spousal Socialist Security benefits, but it's either a Right to be married or it is a privilege. So, do you want the government in your bedroom and in your private affairs now or do you want to put up with them later if your spouse wants to claim your Socialist Security benefits? It's a trade off to enforce your Rights, but you do have a choice.

Exactly. If I ever wanted to get married, I'd not even bother with the legal affairs and keep it as a promise/sacrament between myself and my spouse. The sneaky tradeoff with government marriage is that on one hand you get those goodies like tax benefits and SSI, but on the other hand you have to give up a lot of freedom.

 

[MyEyesTheyBurn]

Santorum sounds like an atheist. Needs government approval to tell him what is what? So if the government suddenly annulled his marriage he would not consider himself married?

Whoa there. I'm an atheist and I'm married, along with a lot of libertarians. The skeptic/freethinker movement (i.e. atheists) is for the most part split between liberals and libertarians (look up Michael Shermer).

 

[ItsTime]

Is baptism a privilege?

 

[Southron]

Obtaining a marriage license is a privilege.

 

[MyEyesTheyBurn]

Obtaining a marriage license is a privilege.

Discussing your intent to obtain a marriage license is a privilege.

 

[MyEyesTheyBurn]

Is baptism a privilege?

When it's not on Sunday, yes.

 

[BuddyRey]

Marriage is a manifestation of the more basic concept of freedom of association. Freedom of association most definitely is a right, not a privilege.

This ridiculous statement on Santorum's part just further hammers home how thoroughly disgusting this man's political philosophy is. Of course, he's already said things that have raised red flags in my mind, like "society grants rights" and "radical individualism never works" (paraphrasing, but not loosely). Rick Santorum is just as much a Collectivist as was Marx...his "flavor" of collectivism is simply one that Republicans will find more palatable.

 

[specsaregood]

Whoa there. I'm an atheist and I'm married, along with a lot of libertarians. The skeptic/freethinker movement (i.e. atheists) is for the most part split between liberals and libertarians (look up Michael Shermer).

No offense intended. Just i would think somebody who claims to be a god-believer and spouts off about it all the time would hold god's approval higher than governments. But santorum is clearly putting govt authority above that.