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You can't have a free market in a place where no-one is allowed to own property. This is exactly the case at sea.

If people were allowed to own the land under the ocean, and that which is above, then there would be recourse. In order to avoid lawsuits, they would have multiple redundencies and more powerful safety checks.

BP won't be allowed to fail. If they were allowed to fail, the next company would be more careful.
You can't honestly believe this can you. I've voted libertarian, supported libertarians with my money, etc.. That said, this is a little nutty...

You do realize the rig was in international waters, no?

Reminds me of an argument I had with a guy that said the gov't had no right to regulate/ban live smallpox virus, because we could always sue the guy who mishandled it in his garage lab...
 
Back in DC yesterday looking for more money.

"Assembly Speaker John Perez and Senate leader Darrell Steinberg, both Democrats, want the federal government to help with California's $20 billion budget deficit."

I guess the leaches didn't think much of the 700M they already received. They want us to pay for all their stupidity.

Mean while,

'Universal Mortgage closing, cutting 100 jobs in Wisconsin."

Saks closing a store in San Diego. There goes a few jobs.

Fresno working on budget. Might have to cut 400.

SC school cuts could run from 2,100 to 3,800.

NY. MTA 500 Job cuts and 70 booths closed this Friday.

Illinois legislature plays softball while the budget gets worse. They are already late on almost 4B in payments due. 13B deficit. Ignore it and it just might go away.
 
New survey says 275K school jobs to be cut in the new school year. That is only 80 percent of school districts responding so far.
 
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You can't honestly believe this can you. I've voted libertarian, supported libertarians with my money, etc.. That said, this is a little nutty...

You do realize the rig was in international waters, no?

Reminds me of an argument I had with a guy that said the gov't had no right to regulate/ban live smallpox virus, because we could always sue the guy who mishandled it in his garage lab...

Wow, so you are equating the ownership of private property with having a freezer full of smallpox?

That is among the dumbest things I have ever read on this forum. Sorry if that offends you, but you deserve it. I mean Christ, you can't even recognize the difference between libertarianism and communism with such a view.

Read this: http://mises.org/journals/scholar/waterprivate.pdf then come back and tell me I'm "nutty". One addendum that would improve the pdf is that a person would own the land under the water, and have a right to everything above it.
 
New survey says 275K school jobs to be cut in the new school year. That is only 80 percent of school districts responding so far.

I can't say I feel sorry for them I'm sure there are some good teachers out there but my social studies teacher in high school showed us the film "The Alamo" (the one with John Wayne) as our lesson for the Texas war for independence. The only thing I got out of it was that John Wayne (Davy Crocket) had a fancy musket that shot seven rounds at the same time.
 
Lucky I had better teachers than that.

No one is thinking about how many job hours are going to be lost in TN and KY as people have to stay home to clean their houses from water and mud. Same for businesses.

Judging from the water that hasn't even gone done yet, that is going to be a big hit. Likely many will not have flood coverage and they will have to do all the work themselves.

They are saying OpryLand might take a few weeks.

Caution on buying any used cars. They might try and palm them off to other states and not tell about the flood damage. There were a ton of cars underwater.

Boston KY, the Jim Beam plant has water around it. That would be the place to get stranded.
 
Goldman Sux trying to settle before discovery on civil case can be used on criminal case?

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/goldman-settlement-talks-imminent/

By Charlie Gasparino
FOXBusiness


Talks to settle the fraud charges leveled against Goldman Sachs (GS) by the Securities and Exchange Commission over the sale of a batch of toxic debt to investors could begin as early as Tuesday, FOX Business has learned.

People familiar with the matter say attorneys for the embattled Wall Street firm plan to initiate settlement talks soon after the firm releases its response to the SEC’s charges, and FOX Business has learned that Goldman may unveil that response imminently, possibly Tuesday.

Goldman officials are leaning toward a sweeping defense of the firm's actions, rather than a motion to dismiss the civil charges filed by the SEC two weeks ago that alleged the firm failed to disclose material information to investors who bought mortgage-related bonds back in 2007, just as the housing crisis was to kick into full gear.

At issue: Whether Goldman should have told investors that short seller John Paulson was largely responsible for putting together the portfolio of debt, while he was betting against it.

According to sources, Goldman continues to believe strongly that the SEC’s case is without merit, but the firm also does not want to go to battle with regulators. "We can't be going to war with the SEC," said one senior executive at the firm.

Shares of Goldman have fluctuated wildly since the disclosure of the charges, and most recently news that the Justice Department has launched a criminal probe into the matter. On Monday, Goldman's stock surged after legendary investor Warren Buffett, who owns a stake in the firm, defended the company's actions and supported its embattled CEO Lloyd Blankfein. In addition, FOX Business has learned that the criminal probe is the result of an SEC referral of its case, and thus may be nothing more than a routine inquiry.

But with the threat of "headline" risk hampering shares of Goldman, and investor lawsuits and a possible criminal case dogging the firm, senior executives at Goldman are intent on putting the SEC case to bed, FOX Business has learned. From Goldman's standpoint, settlement talks, according to sources, would likely focus on regulators backing off serious civil securities fraud charges and instead would have Goldman paying a fine, and concede to lesser charges such as "negligence."

The pressure on Goldman to settle also stems from federal laws that ban pension funds from doing business with firms that have lost such cases. If there were a judgment against Goldman, the firm would have to shed large parts of its money-management business, a risk that legal experts say isn't worth taking no matter how weak Goldman believes the SEC's case.

But people close to the commission say the SEC may not be so willing to settle lightly, particularly in light of the fact the Department of Justice has launched its criminal probe. According to one attorney who regularly deals with the SEC, the commission could seek a fine of as much as $1 billion -- one of the largest on record against a major Wall Street firm -- and could demand the resignation of senior management, such as CEO Lloyd Blankfein and his No. 2, Gary Cohn, as bargaining chips.

Since taking over as CEO in 2006 after former CEO Hank Paulson became Treasury Secretary, Blankfein and Cohn -- both savvy traders -- have ramped up the firm's trading unit and achieved the highest profit margins on Wall Street. The Blankfein-led Goldman Sachs makes far more money trading bonds and other sophisticated securities than it does advising its clients on corporate finance matters, known as investment banking. But the shift away from the client business also came at a cost: Goldman was holding toxic debt on its balance sheet during the 2008 financial crisis, and like the rest of Wall Street needed a taxpayer bailout to survive. Meanwhile, as the SEC case demonstrates, the trading culture at Goldman has often put its interests above its clients.

Since the SEC suit was filed, Blankfein has said publicly that Goldman will re-examine how it deals with clients that it trades with, and he may have no choice: Sources who deal with the SEC on a regular basis say any settlement would have to include at least some structural changes, including enhanced disclosures to clients.

A spokesman for Goldman had no comment; an SEC spokesman didn't return a call.
 
And they are not even mentioning the sale of stock by higher up insiders after they had received a Wells Notice. They didn't feel a need to tell all investor's about the Wells Notice, while they allegedly dumped stock.

When is the SEC going to deal with that one? How about they give up their profits on the sale of that stock as they march them to jail. Wait, how silly of me to think one person from GS will ever go to jail.
 
And they are not even mentioning the sale of stock by higher up insiders after they had received a Wells Notice. They didn't feel a need to tell all investor's about the Wells Notice, while they allegedly dumped stock.

When is the SEC going to deal with that one? How about they give up their profits on the sale of that stock as they march them to jail. Wait, how silly of me to think one person from GS will ever go to jail.

Ain't ever gonna happen... the laws are for the little/poor people... remember Junk Bond King Michael Milken that destroyed the markets and became the cornerstone to the CDS/CDP/MBS board game? Billionaire Milken was charged with 98 FELONIES... he served a total of 10 months in Club FED.

We have people in prison who bounced a couple checks to feed their families and trying to get by, serving 5 years in a prison.

BTW, When's Andy Fastow (ENRON CFO) being released from prison... December 17, 2011. Serving 6 years for $10's of Billions in Fraud, Racketeering, Conspiracy, Insider trading, and destruction.
 
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OK here is is for April 30th. Treasury Tax receipts 190,744B individual and corporate tax receipts. Wait, we had refunds of 88,281B combined. That means net around 102,463B.

http://www.fms.treas.gov/dts/index.html

Last April they had receipts of 269,000B. Can everyone say that is a drop around 167,000 Billion in tax receipts? That was going to be their best month for this fiscal year.

I will post their final report when it comes out.

With wages dropping and job losses still coming it is going to get ugly fast now. May last year was 117,217B they are in big trouble. Their next hope for a good month will be June. I wonder if they are holding their breath?

Watch and learn Ben and Timmy
 
OK here is is for April 30th. Treasury Tax receipts 190,744B individual and corporate tax receipts. Wait, we had refunds of 88,281B combined. That means net around 102,463B.

[URL]http://www.fms.treas.gov/dts/index.html[/URL]

Last April they had receipts of 269,000B. Can everyone say that is a drop around 167,000 Billion in tax receipts? That was going to be their best month for this fiscal year.

I will post their final report when it comes out.

With wages dropping and job losses still coming it is going to get ugly fast now. May last year was 117,217B they are in big trouble. Their next hope for a good month will be June. I wonder if they are holding their breath?

Watch and learn Ben and Timmy


the kicker to these personal income tax receipts are... Federal taxes unemployed people have to pay on UI checks/payouts. The Koolaide Charade continues...
 
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Imagine how much less receipts would be if they were not being taxed. 15M people not paying any taxes on UI adds up big. I am not saying they should be paying taxes but commenting on the real tax receipts would be less.

There are talking about the Ted Spread over on TF,

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=.TEDSP:IND

Notice it moving up since March. This thing is going to blow up before long with the Tax Receipts Tanking.

They can play their games on printing but, if they get caught lying on the Tax Receipts it will be ugly.
 
CA April Sales Tax down 30 percent or 3B.

http://www.businessinsider.com/california-april-sales-taxes-weak-2010-5#ixzz0myKWr314

They must of had some clue, as they are in DC begging for our money right now.
Well, I expect our State will be down likewise.

Would Illinois, NJ, and NY like to report in now?

Do you want to guess what that is going to do to the ever decreasing Treasury Tax Receipts showing up next month?

Gulf State sales taxes likely to fall.

Timmy, less sales equals less taxes paid. So this is the big recovery Ben.
 
BREAKING: Unusual price action continued today as the Dow closed below 11k support on serious volume. The patient is critical, Doctor. Today the big money had to fight to hold the 50 day sma while they set up their positions. Spain. Get the fever.

Traders at the scene commented - "Da fizzeth wave is done. Down and down and down she goes where she stops nobody knows." :p
 
OK here is is for April 30th. Treasury Tax receipts 190,744B individual and corporate tax receipts. Wait, we had refunds of 88,281B combined. That means net around 102,463B.

http://www.fms.treas.gov/dts/index.html

Last April they had receipts of 269,000B. Can everyone say that is a drop around 167,000 Billion in tax receipts? That was going to be their best month for this fiscal year.

I will post their final report when it comes out.

With wages dropping and job losses still coming it is going to get ugly fast now. May last year was 117,217B they are in big trouble. Their next hope for a good month will be June. I wonder if they are holding their breath?

Watch and learn Ben and Timmy

190 trillion seems a bit high. You sure those billions you have up there aren't supposed to be millions?
 
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Thank you. It should be millions.

They are playing games with billions, millions and trillions that it sometimes hard to remember which is which anymore.

So, now we are down to millions, it just makes it that much worse. They are going down the rabbit hole and know the game is almost up.
 
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