Mark Levin may get his evil wish to convene a Constitutional Convention

[William Tell]

I'll acknowledge that eduardo is right about the intent of the founders, but we're too far removed now from where we were then to expect that this new constitution would be anything other than a nightmare for liberty.

Yeah, it's just another quick fix silver bullet scam. We need to wake up, get involved and fix things. Restore the Constitution, one step at a time.

 

[William Tell]

If Congress doesnt follow the old Constitution, what makes anyone think they will follow the New one?

It is a head scratcher, that's for sure.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

There's no guarantee of that, but states will send people who will protect their interests instead of expanding federal power. Just look at the size of government before and after the 17th amendment.

The government was already on the wrong track before 1913 when the 17th was ratified. Income Tax, for instance, was Amendment 16, which means it was passed by state'legislature approved Senators.

Think of all that the Senate gets away with now, then think of what they would get away with if they weren't held accountable to voters.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Without the 17th Amendment there would be no need for Rand Paul at the federal level.

True this.

 

[AnarchoCapitalist]

True this.

Maybe not, but Rand may be a governor or congressman instead ... Governors at one time, had way more political power than DC has today.

17th amendment is a bad bad bad amendment, along with the 16th and 22nd ...

 

[Zippyjuan]

IF Congress really wants a Balanced Budget amendment, they can pass one at any time and then let the states ratify it. They are also free to submit a balanced budget every year yet are unable to do so. Thing is that nobody in Washington really wants one. A balanced budget or an amendment to force one. Calling for one is only political theater.

Any amendments proposed by a Con Con must still be approved by two thirds of states before they become effective.

 

[DamianTV]

There will NEVER be a real balanced budget as long as the Federal Reserve Bank exists.

 

[enoch150]

Here's the thing: until and unless the majority of citizens of this country are educated enough to know and have a basic understanding of what's going on, not only is Con-Con a very bad idea, but what makes anyone think that Constitution will work out any better than the one we have? Most people don't know what's in the current Constitution, they have no idea that their representatives violate it in one way or the other every day.

I don't think a CC will draft a better constitution than the one we have. In fact, I think it will be much worse, and I welcome the change, keeping in mind that it will only be a nominal change because the present constitution doesn't limit government even a little. I think a CC will motivate many, many more people, currently oblivious to events, to our side because the other guys are going to put in print some horrible things and it will be such a novel event that the entire country will be focused on it.

I put no faith in a piece of paper, the current one or a new one. I'm not sure why anyone would. It is entirely useless. I'm not sure why you or anyone else feels so compelled to preserve it.

There is literally nothing we have to lose from this unless you can seriously claim the present constitution is actively imposing a limit on government. If it isn't imposing a limit on government, then a new one can't do any worse.

What limits government is people with pitchforks. What keeps pitchforks out of people's hands is faith in some mythological social contract which takes the form of government. The constitution is an article of government. People don't pick up pitchforks until they lose faith in the institution of government. Anything that undermines that faith will grow the number of people with pitchforks. My goal is to limit government. That can be done by letting the wolf take off the sheep's clothing.

 

[johnwk]

Mark Levin promotes keeping the socialist tax on profit, gains and incomes

Getting back to the subject of the thread, Mark Levin promotes keeping the socialist tax on incomes alive with one of his “liberty amendments”? He also promotes keeping the Federal Reserve swindling operation alive with another one of his “liberty amendments.” And, let us not forget that he also promotes a fraudulent balanced budget amendment which would actually make it constitutional for Congress to not balance the federal budget.

JWK


“Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to America’s future Prosperity“ ___ from “Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan”, no longer in print.

 

[Zippyjuan]

There will NEVER be a real balanced budget as long as the Federal Reserve Bank exists.

Congress controls spending.