Marine Corp veteran Brandon Raub arrested last night

[affa]

I was thinking the same thing.

Surely there is more to this story than what is being reported.

why?
and by 'why', i mean this:
Throughout history, when they came with black bags for our neighbors... how many people just assumed that "there is more to this story than what is being reported".

 

[TheTexan]

why?
and by 'why', i mean this:
Throughout history, when they came with black bags for our neighbors... how many people just assumed that "there is more to this story than what is being reported".

Precisely correct.

 

[affa]

i get the feeling that too many people here are willing to accept that they only have freedom of speech as long as said 'freedom' excludes: anything that sounds 'stupid', 'insane', 'dangerous', 'unstable', 'revolutionary', or otherwise non-mainstream. As defined by our overlords, of course.

So sad to see so many people ready and willing to throw others under the bus for being 'stupid'. Of course, no matter what someone gets blackbagged for, someone else will think them 'stupid' for doing whatever got them bagged in the first place. Because the only 'smart' thing to do is to be a good serf, right?

 

[phill4paul]

So does anyone know if his mother has been able to locate him? To hide his location from a loved one or relative is the height of authoritarianism. WTF?
"We've taken your son. No, we have no knowledge of his whereabouts. He's being evaluated somewhere. Have a nice day."

 

[TheTexan]

Is this the first of our movement to be taken hostage under NDAA? Or were there some before him?

 

[BSU kid]

Notice how the mainstream...heck even the alternative media have ignored this. Someone needs to infiltrate a Obama rally and ask what happened to him!

 

[Dr.3D]

Is this the first of our movement to be taken hostage under NDAA? Or were there some before him?

That's the thing, they can disappear us one at a time and no one would even notice.
Heck, on these forums, if somebody doesn't post for a long time, people think he was either banned or went on vacation.

 

[shane77m]

why?
and by 'why', i mean this:
Throughout history, when they came with black bags for our neighbors... how many people just assumed that "there is more to this story than what is being reported".

I guess there is still a little part of me that hopes the gubment wouldn't go in a take someone out of their house for a series Farcebook posts. If there is not another reason than for the post's then we are in some deep doodoo. Especially for some posts that don't sound any worse than what I have read on here and a myriad of other blogs, forums, and such.

If the reason they bagged him was for the posts then I expect the media to spin this to make him look like a home grown terrorist.

 

[LibertyEagle]

i get the feeling that too many people here are willing to accept that they only have freedom of speech as long as said 'freedom' excludes: anything that sounds 'stupid', 'insane', 'dangerous', 'unstable', 'revolutionary', or otherwise non-mainstream. As defined by our overlords, of course.

So sad to see so many people ready and willing to throw others under the bus for being 'stupid'. Of course, no matter what someone gets blackbagged for, someone else will think them 'stupid' for doing whatever got them bagged in the first place. Because the only 'smart' thing to do is to be a good serf, right?

It is not a matter of agreeing with what has been done to him. Rather, it is being cognizant of what is going on in our country all around us. I question if some momentary internet bravado was worth him potentially being completely neutralized. It doesn't seem wise to me.

 

[TheTexan]

It is not a matter of agreeing with what has been done to him. Rather, it is being cognizant of what is going on in our country all around us. I question if some momentary internet bravado was worth him potentially being completely neutralized. It doesn't seem wise to me.

I keep telling you this but I don't think you get it yet. We're all on their lists. He was simply at the top of the list.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I keep telling you this but I don't think you get it yet. We're all on their lists. He was simply at the top of the list.

I get it. It is you who apparently do not.

 

[TheTexan]

I get it. It is you who apparently do not.

He understood the consequences. He understood that if he said what he believed needed to be said, that men with guns could appear at his doorstep, and he was right. That does not make him stupid. It simply makes him one of the first. There will be plenty more where that came from.

It is because of people like Brandon Raub, and Roger Pion, who are willing to sacrifice their personal liberties, their lives, for us, that I have any hope for the future of this country.

On the flip side of the coin, those who stay quiet, those who do not resolve to action, out of nothing more than fear of retaliation from their masters, are cowards and are not helping us in any way. You can avoid the men with guns by complying, by staying quiet, by sitting down and shutting up. But that does not help us. That helps them. The noose is tightening around our necks with each passing day.

Eventually, you along with everyone else will have to make a choice. Do you take a stand and say this is where it stops? Or do you sit down and wait for others to take a stand on your behalf?

 

[LibertyEagle]

He understood the consequences. He understood that if he said what he believed needed to be said, that men with guns could appear at his doorstep, and he was right. That does not make him stupid. It simply makes him one of the first. There will be plenty more where that came from.

It is because of people like Brandon Raub, and Roger Pion, who are willing to sacrifice their personal liberties, their lives, for us, that I have any hope for the future of this country.

On the flip side of the coin, those who stay quiet, those who do not resolve to action, out of nothing more than fear of retaliation from their masters, are cowards and are not helping us in any way. You can avoid the men with guns by complying, by staying quiet, by sitting down and shutting up. But that does not help us. That helps them. The noose is tightening around our necks with each passing day.

Eventually, you along with everyone else will have to make a choice. Do you take a stand and say this is where it stops? Or do you sit down and wait for others to take a stand on your behalf?

Some blather about action.

Others take it.

 

[TheTexan]

Some blather about action.

Others take it.

Impressive display of blatant hypocrisy. I am truly impressed! /golfclap

 

[LibertyEagle]

Impressive display of blatant hypocrisy. I am truly impressed! /golfclap

You keep trying to make this personal. If you are trying to take a pot shot at me, you're going to have to do much better than that.

The point I was trying to make is that if you truly believe this is all going to end up in some kind of civil war, do you think it is wise to have yourself taken out of the effort, for something so meaningless as some internet bravado? I wouldn't think that was the best choice of action, but whatever.

 

[TheTexan]

Is that the best you've got?

No more chest-thumping, or anything? Oh come on. You know you want to.

No, I'm still flabbergasted by your impressive hypocrisy. Kinda left me speechless. Not sure what else to say at this point lol

 

[TheTexan]

for something so meaningless

Speaking truth is never meaningless, and as far as I can tell, that's all that he did

 

[LibertyEagle]

No, I'm still flabbergasted by your impressive hypocrisy. Kinda left me speechless. Not sure what else to say at this point lol

Again, you keep trying to make this personal. The only reason for that is that you have no argument.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Speaking truth is never meaningless, and as far as I can tell, that's all that he did

He made comments about severing heads and made it sound like he was ready to commence immediately. Is that the truth you are talking about? Or, did you even take the time to read his Facebook page?

We know the unconstitutional laws that have been passed. We know they are tightening the noose. So, unless we want to be picked up, and be taken out of action, it seems to me that people posting threats should at least be cognizant that Homeland Security may be on their doorstep.

Do I like it? No. But, that is a different thing than being aware of what is going on in our country.

Go ahead and fling another insult, bxm, if that makes you feel like a big man.

 

[TheTexan]

Again, you keep trying to make this personal. The only reason for that is that you have no argument.

Again? LOL. I wrote that before you even wrote your "trying to make this personal" edit.

And it's not personal. I just call it as I see it. You're the queen of "not taking action." I don't think I need to explain that for anybody here. Generally anything that makes waves, you're against it.