Marijuana reform initiatives on the ballot in 2016 - Official results thread

well for some reason I cannot quote posts.. but this election.. ptsd.. WINNER! Now.. if my PCM goes for it - on the base.... yeah,,, that'll happen...
 
yeah, it's official now in Arizona. Too bad, but still been a great night so far.


86.9% Reporting

Yes
47.8%
853,789

No
52.2%
931,708

http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/ballot-measures/arizona/



Arizona Rejects Marijuana Legalization
Voters approved medical marijuana by a razor-thin margin in 2010.

Jacob Sullum
Nov. 9, 2016

Yesterday Arizona voters, who approved medical use of marijuana by a razor-thin margin in 2010, declined to take the additional step of legalizing the drug for recreational purposes. With 68 percent of precincts reporting, the legalization initiative, Proposition 205, was opposed by 52 percent of voters.

Proposition 205 would have allowed adults 21 or older to possess up to an ounce of marijuana in public, grow up to six plants at home, keep the produce of those plants at home, and give other adults up to an ounce at a time "without remuneration." It would have created a Department of Marijuana Licenses and Control to oversee the commercial production and distribution of marijuana products, with licensing preference given to operators of existing medical marijuana dispensaries, and imposed a 15 percent tax on the retail price.

Proposition 205 was supported by two Arizona congressmen, Raul Grijalva and Ruben Gallego, both Democrats. It was opposed by two other congressmen, Trent Franks and Matt Salmon, and by Gov. Doug Ducey, all Republicans. Supporters of the initiative raised $5.2 million, while opponents raised $5.6 million. The chief donor to the opposition campaign was Discount Tire, which is based in Scottsdale.
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http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/09/arizona-rejects-marijuana-legalization
 
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Montana Expands Access to Medical Marijuana
Voters respond to a legislative crackdown.

Jacob Sullum
Nov. 9, 2016

Yesterday Montana voters approved a ballot initiative aimed at expanding patients' access to medical marijuana, which the state legislature sharply restricted in 2011. With almost all ballots counted, the medical marijuana measure, I-182, was favored by 55 percent of voters.

Montana voters approved medical marijuana in 2004 by a wide margin. But in 2011 the legislature cracked down on medical marijuana suppliers, limiting them to three patients each, banning medical marijuana ads, and requiring state review of doctors who recommend marijuana to more than 25 patients in a given year.

I-182 allows production and distribution of marijuana by state-licensed providers for treatment of specified medical conditions and others subsequently added by the legislature. It eliminates the caps of three patients per provider and 25 per doctor, adds post-traumatic stress disorder to the list of qualifying conditions, and eliminates the requirement of a second doctor's opinion for patients seeking marijuana for relief of chronic pain.
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http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/09/montana-expands-access-to-medical-mariju
 
jct74 said:
Maine legalization still hanging tight, but looks like will pass. Probably won't know any further results until tomorrow.


88.3% Reporting

Yes
50.4%
691,304

No
49.6%
681,332

http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/ballot-measures/maine/
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...i think your numbers are wrong....i don't think 691,304 voted state-wide...if so, just barely....i believe our total state population is around 1.2 million....

...btw, i don't trust the vote-counters here...mark my word...the fux are working on a fix...the conservative republican scumbags at wvom squawk-talk-radio have been gnashing their teeth at the yes voters...
 
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...i think your numbers are wrong....i don't think 691,304 voted state-wide...if so, just barely....i believe our total state population is around 1.2 million....

...btw, i don't trust the vote-counters here...mark my word...the fux are working on a fix...the conservative republican scumbags at wvom squawk-talk-radio have been gnashing their teeth at the yes voters...
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yeah, I don't understand it either. The total vote count appears to be more than the state's population of 1.33 million according to wikipedia.

It's still too close to call BTW, with 98% reporting.


98% Reporting

Yes
50.2%
752,246

No
49.8%
745,872

http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/ballot-measures/maine/



Prohibitionists are probably going to ask for a recount.

Legal Pot Opponents Considering Recount in Tight Race

By SUSAN SHARON
1 HOUR AGO

Question 1, the ballot measure that would tax and regulate recreational marijuana, remains too close to call nearly 24 hours after the polls closed on Tuesday. Supporters declared victory early Wednesday morning after the Bangor Daily News called the race in their favor, but opponents are refusing to concede.

With 97 percent of precincts reporting, the Yes on One campaign is leading by about 3,500 votes. And for opponents, that’s just too close to call.

Scott Gagnon with Mainers Protecting Our Youth and Communities, which is not ready to throw in the towel quite yet, says in addition to an already close margin, his campaign has become aware of several thousand ballots that have not yet been counted, including 2,700 absentee ballots in Scarborough that may not have been included in the town’s final tally.

“That’s important for us because, as of now, Scarborough was sort of in our win column. We’re also learning from the secretary of state’s office that some of the overseas ballots from service members have also not been counted, and that could be up to 4,000 ballots that have yet to be added,” he says.

At this point, Gagnon says, unless the results swing dramatically in favor of the Yes vote, his group is leaning heavily toward asking for a recount.

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read more:
http://mainepublic.org/post/legal-pot-opponents-considering-recount-tight-race
 
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Here's another article on the tight race in Maine.

https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/maine-legalization-race-stays-crazyamazing-right-end


Apparently some medical marijuana growers in the state teamed up with prohibitionists to try to kill the initiative. Reading this kind of stuff pisses me off.

While the “Campaign to Regulate Marijuana in Maine” spent more than a million bucks on a massive TV ad buy, they faced a fierce, two pronged-attack from prohibitionists and medical marijuana growers opposed to legalization. As the campaign wound down, all three sides resorted to on-line name calling and live debates that often turned testy or raucous.

“I think there’s been a vast amount of misinformation going around about legalization of marijuana generally and what this specific initiative would do to the state,” said Alysia Melnick, political director for the campaign, just prior to being thrown out of the Longfellow Room. “I think if voters really understood what the facts are, we would be in a very different situation and we’d be up by a lot.”

While campaign manager David Boyer acknowledged that late-in-the-race fear-mongering by Gov. Paul LePage and the state attorney general didn’t help the legalization vote, he was more upset with what he views as betrayal by some in the medical marijuana community. Especially by Dr. Dustin Sulak, the state’s leading medical marijuana doctor.

“We’re disappointed Dr. Sulak sent an email to his patients urging them to vote no. He knows the benefits of marijuana and he knows that not everyone has access,” Boyer said. “It had us scratching our heads. And we’re disappointed in [Medical Marijuana Caregivers of Maine] for telling people to vote no. It’s just protectionism. We knew it was going to be close and we could have used their votes.”
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LePage might try to screw with things too.

Back in the Longfellow Room, during the early hours of waiting for results, Melnick raised the spectre of possible interference by Maine Gov. Paul LePage. She’s not being paranoid. LePage has a history of screwing with referenda, especially when it comes to bond issues. The state still hasn’t borrowed about $11.5 million in conservation bonds approved by voters last year because LePage wants more timber harvesting on public lands as a trade-off.

What happens if LePage does try to mess with the will of the people, perhaps by ordering his department commissioners to slow-walk or endlessly delay the implementation process? “We’ll sue him,” Melnick answered grimly. Those aren’t empty words. Melnick is known across the state as a social justice lawyer who gets things done.
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Only the California in the Southern States has the guts to do the thing. Other states can't do this due to low influx of legal taxes money. They are playing with the wrong foot in the illegal money game. Arizona Senator Jeff Flake once mentioned his concerns in a statement to the azcentral. Major legalized players are at the Western front or one with the low economic activities. My personal opinion is to legalize under a certain age limit, medical fitness and with strict supervision of Police and DEA. Legalizing definitely reduce the crime rate but increase the addiction rate by 14 percent (according to a University of Denver survey). When I was in Arizona and attending a seminar at http://militarybases.co/directory/fort-huachuca-army-base-in-cochise-az/ (where Ron Paul was Chief guest) on the topic of economy and circulation of drug money (this was 2012). I was sure that Arizona will never vote on the legalization of the pot, as, I have seen the anti-pot thinking in the political community of the Arizona (supposing it is depicting the locals thinking too).
 
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What freedoms to they have now though? The legislators can mess with any part of the bill they do not like anyways, because it is not a constitutional amendment. But they're probably not going to screw with it too much, because then there would be a huge public outcry for going against the will of the people. My advice is vote for it. It will be a huge strategic win for the nationwide movement, with no eastern state having legalized yet and Massachusetts being close to the massive population center of New York City. Probably would kick off a domino effect of other eastern states legalizing too, which legislators in Vermont and New Jersey have recently looked at. If it loses though the prohibitionists will have a field day and the pressure on other eastern states to legalize will be much lessened.
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I'll vote yes but reserve the right to say I told ya so when they ban it again.


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BOSTON (AP) — Massachusetts’ top law enforcement official went on the offensive Thursday against the legalization of recreational pot, arguing that the marijuana industry would resist curbs on the potency of its products and “always put profits ahead of people.”
Question 4 on Tuesday’s ballot would legalize possession of small amounts of recreational marijuana for adults 21 and older and allow for retail sales of the drug, including in the form of edibles such as cookies or candy.
Attorney General Maura Healey, a Democrat, is among several high-profile elected officials opposed to the ballot initiative, a list that also includes Republican Gov. Charlie Baker and Boston’s Democratic Mayor Marty Walsh.

“Question 4 isn’t just about legalization — it’s about commercialization,” said Healey, who was joined by health care professionals who oppose the measure at a Beacon Hill news conference.
The measure’s language includes no specific limits on the potency of THC, the pyschoactive chemical in marijuana, for products sold in the state. Critics say today’s marijuana is generally at least six times more potent than it was in the 1970s.
“Maura Healey’s concern has no basis in fact and is yet another scare tactic to stop voters from putting the criminals who control the (marijuana) market today out of business,” said Jim Borghesani, a spokesman for the group Yes on 4.
Marijuana companies have already signaled their intent to fight any restrictions, Healey said.
“Potency limits might actually be better for people, but they are bad for profits, they’re bad for the bottom line and they’re bad for a billion-dollar industry that will always put profits ahead of people,” the attorney general said.

If approved, the ballot measure would create a Cannabis Control Commission to regulate recreational marijuana in Massachusetts. Backers say the commission would have absolute authority” over edibles and other products sold in the state, including the power to impose limits on potency. ..............................................
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It is actually worse than I thought.

Just Like We Called It: Black Market Weed Dealers Will Still Make Bank Because The Government Wants To Tax Legalized Weed 28% And Add Crazy Regulations


Last October we warned potheads to vote No on Question 4, because the last thing any real pothead wants to see is the legalization of marijuana. We pointed out that when this is your campaign slogan:

You should never vote for it. Tax and regulate – nothing good comes out of either one of those words. The idea that taxation is a good thing when you’re living in a state like Massachusetts is clinically insane. We are talking about voluntarily handing over money to a body of people who just voted overwhelmingly to give themselves a 40% raise. This includes people like Representative Dylan Fernandez, who had*been in office*for all of one month when he voted for the bill. And when they’re not giving each other raises they are allocating funding for fraudulent non-profits that rip off the taxpayers, more food stamps for ratchets who sell them on Facebook, and looking to see which highways they can add more tolls to.

And we were 1,000% right:
Source:*Less than a year after Massachusetts voters approved legalizing marijuana and taxing it at a rate of 12 percent, lawmakers already seek a larger take of the dealer’s cut. In shifting marijuana from decriminalized to legal status, voters permitted a maximum tax of 12 percent on sales of the sweet leaf. Seven months later, the state legislature seeks to grab more of pot profits by permitting taxes as high as 28 percent. Apart from raising taxes, the 48-page omnibus bill currently before the Great and General Court seeks to expand a cannabis board to five members, prohibit localities from enforcing laws against the transportation or delivery of pot, maintain a database on people using medical marijuana.*The more than 54 percent who voted to legalize marijuana in November’s election authorized a tax of no more than 12 percent. The 28 percent tax represents a 133 percent increase over the initial rate. Legislators seek to hold a vote on Thursday.*
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...n-double-pot-tax-7-months-after-legalization/

For pot dealers not keen on turning over their profits to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts or eager to undergo annual audits, the law establishes a “division of cannabis enforcement” in the attorney general’s office regarding a product that voters just legalized and long ago decriminalized
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