Marijuana Prices Are Plunging, and You're Not Going to Be Happy With the Reason Why

[sam1952]

Yeah, we should talk about that. Our model of eventually rising the prices will never work because of this. We need to create a barrier to entry steep enough so only big players can enter. How about a selling permit at $100,000? Will that take care of the moms and pops?

I'm right there with ya for the 100k permit fees. But which is it.. Too much weed driving down the price and driving out mom and pop or 100k permit fees. Maybe it'd both.. Again as long as grower are allowed to grow I'm fine. Liked that craft beer analogue a few post back.

Then again there was the thread about taxes fueling the illegal market.. Copperhead road and all.

 

[jmdrake]

yes a great deal of this is due to licensing fees and regulation
in washington state you cannot grow for recreational
in california they are requiring union membership for growers
for instance

What the...? A pot growers union? Seriously?

 

[CaseyJones]

What the...? A pot growers union? Seriously?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?506391-CCSF-to-grow-curriculum-with-marijuana-training

not sure if it is a closed shop yet but ya know it's coming

 

[angelatc]

ON a side note, an acquaintance of mine ran a thrift store in colorado. Paid $1000 a month on rent for a 5000 sf warehouse. As soon as pot was legalized, he lost his lease to growers paying $8000 a month for the same space.

He's a free market guy, but he'll be happy when the market contracts a little and the rents come down a tad again.

 

[phill4paul]

ON a side note, an acquaintance of mine ran a thrift store in colorado. Paid $1000 a month on rent for a 5000 sf warehouse. As soon as pot was legalized, he lost his lease to growers paying $8000 a month for the same space.

He's a free market guy, but he'll be happy when the market contracts a little and the rents come down a tad again.

Dayum.

 

[presence]

As soon as pot was legalized, he lost his lease to growers paying $8000 a month for the same space.

If it was decriminalized nobody would pay that kind of money for a warehouse to grow in and nobody would be growing indoors to begin with.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

As long as people can just grow their own plants there's only so far the corporate giants can manipulate prices...

 

[Eroberer]

Compare it to craft beer. People pay more for a good product. There will always be a majority paying little for mass produced garbage.

 

[Madison320]

the point is the small growers are being shoved out by big money suppliers
and eventually it will end up like everything with 5 brands and 4 flavors
look at a dispensary now and they have over 100 strains
let this continue and after the small guys are gone the prices and taxes will go up again

Why are big companies bad and small companies good?

 

[CaseyJones]

Why are big companies bad and small companies good?

I don't think big Companies are bad
I don't care for Corporations colluding with Government writing regulations to destroy competition

 

[pcosmar]

What the...? A pot growers union? Seriously?

Yes. seriously

I have had some Union Grown stuff out here.

 

[pcosmar]

Why are big companies bad and small companies good?

That is for the consumers to decide.

on a level playing field,, there is room for competition.

So far it was level entry,, but regulation always favors someone. That will change.

 

[bunklocoempire]

Not much more to add to that - you pretty much hit it on the head. I dont recall anyone looking for price increases.

I noticed in the CCW fight that there were a lot of "gold diggers" who simply wanted to open self defense academies. Their time and effort was not so much to restore the right, but to exploit a new market - a calculated investment for personal gain (not really arguing that this is a bad thing). The only negative in this situation is that some compromises were made in the hopes to incrementally restore the right to carry. Unfortunately, after the laws were passed, the so called rights advocates left the fight to continue their businesses, and begin benefiting from their investment. I'd expect many of these so called gun rights advocates to also fight any laws that would remove or otherwise reduce training requirements - again, government collusion.

So maybe the pot growers will try to find a way to impose more regulation? Aint freedom grand?

Exactly.


"it's just a hoop. I can jump through that hoop, no problem. I built this business, never met a hoop I couldn't navigate. That other guy, he won't make it through the next hoop, he sucks at hoops. Bring it. I'm a member of an organization that tells me about possible upcoming hoops... I should maybe cash in somehow on this continuous hoop industry info."
^^^
I hear all too much of that.

Perverting competition by attractively introducing aggression. Aint man grand?

Man's relationship to other human beings and plants is just so darned complicated.

 

[Madison320]

I don't think big Companies are bad
I don't care for Corporations colluding with Government writing regulations to destroy competition

I agree but it's 100% the govt's fault. If the govt is offering special favors a business needs to accept them or be put out of business by its competitors.