March Against Monsanto - Updates

[speciallyblend]

So you propose using the threat of government violence to force people to label their products in a government-approved fashion?

Why not also force farmers to get a license to make sure they're growing food in a government-approved fashion, make butchers get a license and government-approved training, make food certification agencies government-approved, force supermarkets to be searched without a warrant to ensure compliance....




Suggest it, but don't use the threat of government violence to force your "suggestion" on them. If a company doesn't label their food, don't buy it.

i propose that if you want to sell food you label the contents and if it is gmo label it so. If you want to hide the garbage then label it garbage. There is no reason to hide the garbage. Let the consumer decide. Right now the consumer doesn't even have the choice since they can hide gmo. ps personally i should have the right to use drones on a company that doesn't label gmo's to protect myself from their lies and misleading products. Personal drones so customers can use it on the company once they realize they have been lied to and deceived by a company. I should have a right to make a choice at the store ,right now monsanto gives no one a choice in the store. they hide their gmos. yes i agree i should be able to use force on a company thatlies and deceives me. I bet monsanto would label products if the consumer could drone them for lying to us.

 

[Debbie Downer]

i propose that if you want to sell food you label the contents and if it is gmo label it so. If you want to hide the garbage then label it garbage. There is no reason to hide the garbage. Let the consumer decide. Right now the consumer doesn't even have the choice since they can hide gmo. ps personally i should have the right to use drones on a company that doesn't label gmo's to protect myself from their lies and misleading products. Personal drones so customers can use it on the company once they realize they have been lied to and deceived by a company. I should have a right to make a choice at the store ,right now monsanto gives no one a choice in the store. they hide their gmos. yes i agree i should be able to use force on a company thatlies and deceives me. I bet monsanto would label products if the consumer could drone them for lying to us.

The consumer already does have a choice. If the product isn't labelled 100% organic or doesn't have a Non-GMO Project label, then don't buy it. No one is forcing you to buy GMO products.

Also, Monsanto doesn't sell any food and they do label their seeds as GMO. They're a biotech agribusiness, not a food company.

And finally, it is completely against libertarian and free market principles to force a company to label their product a certain way. Using the threat of government violence to force food companies that use GMOs to label them is immoral. You only have a right to take action against fraud, so if a food contains GMOs and the company labels them as organic and GMO-free you have a case. Not labeling a product as GMO is not fraud or lying unless they claim it is non-GMO.

 

[Thor]

I bet monsanto would label products if the consumer could drone them for lying to us.

Let's give it a go.... Pick one....

http://g.co/maps/nds4y Monsanto Agronomy Center 25920 Monsanto Road Loxley AL 36551


http://g.co/maps/3w2pd Seminis, Inc 5 W 6th Street Yuma AZ 85364


http://g.co/maps/635h9 WestBred Research Center 3016 E 33rd Place, Ste B Yuma AZ 85365


http://g.co/maps/ga7sn Monsanto Company 15790 S HWY 87 Eloy AZ 85231


Casa Grande Cotton Breeding 749 W Ash Ave Casa Grande AZ 85222


http://g.co/maps/njdph Monsanto Company 2476 Highway 130 East Stuttgart AR 72160


http://g.co/maps/xt34p Seminis, Inc 650 Leanna Drive Arroyo Grande CA 93420


http://g.co/maps/bpjpx Calgene, Inc 1920 Fifth Street Davis CA 95616


http://g.co/maps/ucjxw Seminis, Inc 2700 Camino Del Sol Oxnard CA 93030 805-647-1572


http://g.co/maps/4uk7d Monsanto Company 15165 Dulzura Ct Rancho Murieta CA 95683


http://g.co/maps/a4jzt Monsanto Company 397 Anacapa Drive Roseville CA 95678 916-784-1718 916-784-1878


http://g.co/maps/vyk6r Seminis, Inc 590 Brunken Ave – Suite F Salinas CA 93901


http://g.co/maps/4tm54 Seminis, Inc 500 Lucy Brown Lane San Juan Bautista CA 95045


http://g.co/maps/kwhch Seminis, Inc 1 Seminis Road – PO Box 430 Williams CA 95987


http://g.co/maps/bxjd2 Seminis, Inc 37437 State Highway 16 Woodland CA 95695


http://g.co/maps/2j28a Woodland Research Farm 12849 Gorman Lane Woodland CA 95695


http://g.co/maps/m3tb5 DEKALB® Genetics Corp 62 Maritime Dr Mystic CT 06355-1958


http://g.co/maps/s5vmj Seminis, Inc Felda Florida Research Station, 2221 County Road 832 Felda FL 33930


http://g.co/maps/3u258 Seminis, Inc 810 SW 1st Street Homestead FL 33030


http://g.co/maps/7m36u DEKALB® Genetics Corp 995 US 19 N Leesburg GA 31763


http://g.co/maps/kp4c6 Seminis, Inc 556 Armour Road Tifton GA 31761


http://g.co/maps/cazmg Monsanto Company 381 Williams Gibbs Rd Tifton GA 31793


http://g.co/maps/esr76 Monsanto Hawaii 2111 Piilani Highway Kihei HI 96753


http://g.co/maps/7t4w8 Monsanto Hawaii 1351 Maunaloa Highway, PO Box 40 Kaunakakai HI 96748


http://g.co/maps/kapwk Monsanto Hawaii PO Box 200 Kunia HI 96759


http://g.co/maps/fpn8q Mokulele Farm – Maui 3555 Mokulele Hwy Kihei HI 96753


http://g.co/maps/hdqt7 Seminis, Inc 21120 Highway 30 Filer ID 83328


http://g.co/maps/3zcmp Seminis, Inc 1811 East Florida Avenue Nampa ID 83686


http://g.co/maps/pzy9r Seminis, Inc 10721 Scotch Pine Road, PO Box 192 Payette ID 83661


http://g.co/maps/jg4fp Monsanto Company Soda Springs Plant, Highway 34 North Soda Springs ID 83276 208-547-4300


http://g.co/maps/s3tct Monsanto Company 14018 Carole Dr Bloomington IL 61705


http://g.co/maps/k443e Asgrow Seed 3421 State Route 51 South, PO Box 1837 Centralia IL 62801


http://g.co/maps/qj798 Asgrow Seed N John Street, PO Box 50 Farmer City IL 61842


http://g.co/maps/3kwd5 Monsanto Agronomy Center 1677 80th Street Monmouth IL 61462


http://g.co/maps/epdyj Asgrow Seed State Route 48, PO Box 410 Stonington IL 62567


http://g.co/maps/6rqxm Jerseyville Agronomy Center 26207 Davidson Road Jerseyville IL 62052


http://g.co/maps/43vn7 Stone Seed 5965 W State Route 97 Pleasant Plains IL 62677


http://g.co/maps/p2qvz DEKALB® Genetics Corp 1990 Rt 38 W, PO Box 170 Ashton IL 61006


http://g.co/maps/xrahv DEKALB® Genetics Corp 4370 Mt Pulaski Road N, PO Box 360 Illiopolis IL 62539


http://g.co/maps/gg8wq DEKALB® Genetics Corp 36142 E State Rt 10, PO Box 33 Mason City IL 62664


http://g.co/maps/du5uq Lewis Hybrid Seed 530 W Maple Avenue Ursa IL 62376


http://g.co/maps/nk7vw DEKALB® Genetics Corp 2139 County Road 2500N Thomasboro IL 61878-9654


http://g.co/maps/hhzjz Waterman Seed Technology Center 450 E Adams, PO Box 266 Waterman IL 60556


http://g.co/maps/kmxnw DEKALB® Genetics Corp – Waterman Research 8350 Minnegan Road Waterman IL 60556


http://g.co/maps/hh7c2 Monsanto Company 738 Rusher Lane Evansville IN 47725 812-492-1700 812-492-1799


http://g.co/maps/9ergy Stewart 2230 East County Road 300 North Greensburg IN 47240


http://g.co/maps/n9tmb Channel 612 E Dunlap Street, PO Box 278 Kentland IN 47951


http://g.co/maps/vkksk WestBred Research Center 3221 W County Road 500 N Lafayette IN 47906


http://g.co/maps/sa8yw WestBred 6025 West 300 S Lafayette IN 47909


http://g.co/maps/jwxtd Monsanto Company 228 W CR 700 South Lebanon IN 46052


http://g.co/maps/gm63z Fielder’s Choice Direct 306 N Main Street, PO Box 898 Monticello IN 47960


http://g.co/maps/fg5x7 Asgrow Seed 703 East Benton Oxford IN 47971


http://g.co/maps/dxwam DEKALB® Genetics Corp 15849 S US Highway 231, PO Box 35 Remington IN 47977


http://g.co/maps/kzxcp Specialty Seeds 371 North Diener Road Reynolds IN 47980


http://g.co/maps/8g3ah Specialty Hybrids 1211 Cumberland Avenue West Lafayette IN 47906


http://g.co/maps/xxuzq Monsanto Company 10280 West State Road 28 West Lebanon IN 47991


http://g.co/maps/qfa46 DEKALB® Genetics Corp 908 N Independence, PO Box 367 Windfall IN 46076


http://g.co/maps/qk2be Ames Corn Research 1203A Airport Road Ames IA 50010


http://g.co/maps/786a9 Monsanto Company Old Dubuque Road – Box 427 Anamosa IA 52205


http://g.co/maps/xdxj8 Monsanto Company 3302 SE Convenience Road Ankeny IA 50021


http://g.co/maps/stnkh Monsanto – Parkersburg Foundation 18739 Highway 57 Aplington IA 50604


http://g.co/maps/fbmvb Monsanto Company 53751 650th Street Atlantic IA 50022


http://g.co/maps/qacwx Monsanto Company 410 Center St, PO Box 166 Beaman IA 50609


http://g.co/maps/cgws5 Monsanto Company 1159 S Ave Boone IA 50036


http://g.co/maps/rw5sn ASI – KRUGER-DIKE 33730 160th Street Cedar Falls IA 50613


http://g.co/maps/8n69z DEKALB® Genetics Corp 3500 F Ave, NW – Suite 1 Cedar Rapids IA 52405


http://g.co/maps/s8b9v Monsanto Company 617-623 Central Ave West, PO Box 108 Clarion IA 50525


http://g.co/maps/eb4qp Monsanto Company 2476 370th St, PO Box 408 Dayton IA 50530 515-547-2550 515-547-2552


http://g.co/maps/szknj Monsanto Company 721 Hwy 6 E, PO Box 773 Grinnell IA 50112


http://g.co/maps/5zb3t Monsanto Company – Iowa Foundation 757 Hwy 6, PO Box 743 Grinnell IA 50112


http://g.co/maps/nqddx Monsanto Company 1551 Highway 210 Huxley IA 50124


http://g.co/maps/dvtzk Monsanto Company 2346 Henley Ave Independence IA 50644


http://g.co/maps/9mzjx Monsanto Company 2332 Henley Ave Independence IA 50644


http://g.co/maps/anp7q Muscatine Plant 2500 Wiggins Road Muscatine IA 52761 563-263-0093 563-262-5683


http://g.co/maps/q67d8 Monsanto Company 18739 Highway 20 Aplington IA 50604-9602 319-347-6633 319-347-2720


http://g.co/maps/6ktbe Monsanto Company 605 11th St SW, PO Box 244 Spencer IA 51301 712-262-1804 712-262-1806


http://g.co/maps/47j4n DEKALB/ASGROW 6135 S Hwy 71, PO Box 779 Storm Lake IA 50588


http://g.co/maps/g4f9f Holden’s Foundation Seeds 503 South Maplewood Avenue Williamsburg IA 52361


http://g.co/maps/99f4n DEKALB® Genetics Corp 2016 E Spruce St, PO Box 1002 Garden City KS 67846-1002


http://g.co/maps/bj7yr WestBred Research Center 14604 S Haven Rd Haven KS 67543


http://g.co/maps/4g94f 809 Levee Drive suite G&H Manhattan KS 66502


http://g.co/maps/sj98t DEKALB® Genetics Corp 7159 N 247 St W, PO Box 7 Mt Hope KS 67108


http://g.co/maps/dmyhh Monsanto Company 5912 North Meridian Street Wichita KS 67204


http://g.co/maps/q8ecj Monsanto Company 12501 River Road, PO Box 174 Luling LA 70070 985-785-8211


http://g.co/maps/pc2y2 Asgrow Seeds 32545 Galena Sassafras Road Galena MD 21635


http://g.co/maps/qfdu8 Monsanto Company 245 First Street, Suite 200 Cambridge MA O2142


http://g.co/maps/6mq6d Monsanto Company 67760 US 131 Constantine MI 49042


http://g.co/maps/23uy8 Monsanto Company 1440 Okemos Rd Mason MI 48854


http://g.co/maps/c2yzy DEKALB® Genetics Corp RR2, Box 2 Glyndon MN 56547


http://g.co/maps/eb2rz Gold Country Seed 16506 Highway 15 North Hutchinson MN 55350


http://g.co/maps/qp2hy DEKALB® Genetics Corp 2135 W Lincoln Olivia MN 56277-1702


http://g.co/maps/kdeej Monsanto Company 750 NW 32nd Ave, PO Box 433 Owatonna MN 55060


http://g.co/maps/drm6a Asgrow Seed 29770 US Highway 71 Redwood Falls MN 56283-2401


http://g.co/maps/ddp3u Monsanto – Redwood Falls – Pre-Foundation 1210 East Bridge Street, PO Box 46 Redwood Falls MN 56283-0219 507-637-2204 507-637-2352


http://g.co/maps/yq3rm Monsanto Company 29668 US Hwy 71 Redwood Falls MN 56283


http://g.co/maps/kt94r Holden’s Seed 2440 Highway 19 Blvd Stanton MN 55018-7220


http://g.co/maps/ydvuf Monsanto Company 800 North Lindbergh Blvd St Louis MO 63167 314-694-1000


http://g.co/maps/zb2jd Monsanto Company 700 Chesterfield Parkway North Chesterfield MO 63017 314-694-1000


http://g.co/maps/838q8 DEKALB® Genetics Corp 830 N Miami, PO Box 578 Marshall MO 65340


Monsanto Company 1565 Commerce Rd Marshall MO 65340-3904 660-886-2215


http://g.co/maps/7jk7d Asgrow Seed 2992 State Highway V Matthews MO 63867


http://g.co/maps/8fhej Monsanto Company 110 Paul Lenauer Memorial Drive Owensville MO 65066 573-437-8440


http://g.co/maps/cyjtd Monsanto Company 17812 US Hwy 61, PO Box 847 Sikeston MO 63801


http://g.co/maps/erzjt Monsanto Company 4846 Main Street Flora MS 39071 601-879-9237


http://g.co/maps/ueryz Monsanto Company 407 Goldstein Hollandale MS 38748


http://g.co/maps/adw7s Monsanto Agronomy Center 4006 Old Leland Road Leland MS 38756 662-378-1021


http://g.co/maps/26rm8 Monsanto Company One Cotton Row, PO Box 157 Scott MS 38772


http://g.co/maps/7u62k Monsanto Company 737 Blaylock Road Winterville MS 38703


http://g.co/maps/yswxs WestBred Research Center 81 Timberline Drive Bozeman MT 59718-6994


http://g.co/maps/3zrjc Monsanto Company 124 East Grant Street Blair NE 68008


http://g.co/maps/kp9wp Monsanto Company 10981 8 Street Fontanelle NE 68044


http://g.co/maps/yutqc DEKALB® Genetics Corp 2115 West State St, PO Box 309 Grand Island NE 68802


http://g.co/maps/mqdz2 Monsanto Company 76252 Hwy 47 Gothenburg NE 69138


http://g.co/maps/kr2pk Monsanto Company 76268 Hwy 47 Gothenburg NE 69138


http://g.co/maps/wj3qu NC Hybrids 3505 Yost Avenue Hastings NE 68901


http://g.co/maps/aufhk DEKALB® Genetics Corp 2617 Antelope Ave Kearney NE 68847


http://g.co/maps/r386w Channel 3820 N 56th Street Lincoln NE 68504


http://g.co/maps/vufwf Fontanelle Hybrids Box 595, East Highway 30 North Bend NE 68649 402-652-8626 Doug Liehs


http://g.co/maps/vstz7 Holden’s Seed 1110 East 9th St, PO Box 568 Stromsburg NE 68666


http://g.co/maps/b69y6 Monsanto Company 3605 N Delaware Avenue York NE 68467


http://g.co/maps/wzfjs Seminis, Inc 2026 North Park Drive Las Cruces NM 88005


http://g.co/maps/k7k8s Monsanto Company 1512 NC 55 West Mt Olive NC 28365


http://g.co/maps/8x6f7 Monsanto Company 110 TW Alexander Drive Research Triangle Park NC 27709


http://g.co/maps/55ke7 Monsanto Company 150 Research Campus Dr, Suite 3700 Kannapolis NC 28081


http://g.co/maps/5hg23 WestBred Research Center 2975 39th St South Fargo ND 58104


http://g.co/maps/x7asy Monsanto Soybean Seed Production 304 Center Street West Fargo ND 58078


http://g.co/maps/zu47a DEKALB® Genetics Corp 216 West Court St (Rear) Courthouse IN 43160


http://g.co/maps/tdvcy Monsanto Soybean Research 8390 County Road 140 Findlay OH 45840


http://g.co/maps/cbbkn Monsanto Company 1051 Landsdowne Ave Greenville OH 45331


http://g.co/maps/wy224 Monsanto Company 635 Olympic Drive Troy OH 45373


http://g.co/maps/pnrsw Monsanto Company 741 Coker Farm Road Hartsville SC 29550


http://g.co/maps/68zjh Monsanto Company 200 Industrial Drive Harrisburg SD 57032 605-743-5459


http://g.co/maps/mbn2f Monsanto Company 140 W Industrial Drive Harrisburg SD 57032 605-743-5459


http://g.co/maps/xrcy8 Monsanto Company 4745 6th Ave SE Aberdeen SD 57401


http://g.co/maps/3u42a Monsanto Company 46962 Mindy Tea SD 57064


http://g.co/maps/drw6h DEKALB® Genetics Corp 2303 Pleasant Valley, PO Box 504 Union City TN 38281


http://g.co/maps/bexaq Monsanto Company Highway 70 Aiken TX 79241


http://g.co/maps/vbvgr DEKALB® Genetics Corp Route 2, Box 373 Bishop TX 78343


http://g.co/maps/e274x Seminis, Inc PO Box 532 Donna TX 78537 (956) 461-3434


http://g.co/maps/25gm2 DEKALB® Genetics Corp Highway 87 W, PO Box 417 Dumas TX 79029


http://g.co/maps/gwdbt Monsanto Company 4512 N US Highway 87 Fredericksburg TX 78624


http://g.co/maps/ag92k Monsanto Company 247 US Hwy 380W Haskell TX 79521


http://g.co/maps/4j2k5 Seminis, Inc 1500 Research Parkway – Suite 120 College Station TX 77845


http://g.co/maps/gah8n Monsanto Company 1596 IH 27-87 Hale Center TX 79041


http://g.co/maps/2wn4e Monsanto Company 1104 park Plaza Lockhart TX 78644


http://g.co/maps/h6wdh Monsanto Company 3410 North Elm Lubbock TX 79404


http://g.co/maps/fuht6 Monsanto Company NOT LISTED Taft TX 78390


http://g.co/maps/rncrk Seminis, Inc 16631 LaConner Whitney Road LaConner WA 98257


http://g.co/maps/q8qn7 Monsanto Company 776 S Booker Road, PO Box M Othello WA 99344


http://g.co/maps/uz9wq Monsanto Company 1485 W Cunningham Othello WA 99344


http://g.co/maps/xjuzj Seminis, Inc 115 East 1st, North Warden WA 98857


http://g.co/maps/52uxp Monsanto Company 1300 I Street, NW, Suite 450 East Washington DC 20005 202-783-2460 202-789-1819


http://g.co/maps/bwdex Monsanto Company 410 Bullen Rd Arlington WI 53911


http://g.co/maps/ynr9r Seminis, Inc 7202 Portage Road DeForest WI 53532


http://g.co/maps/7d8dy Asgrow 5926 E US Highway 14 Janesville WI 53546


http://g.co/maps/bqbg6 Trelay 11623 State Road 80 N Livingston WI 53554


http://g.co/maps/d34v8 Agracetus 8520 University Green Middleton WI 53562


http://g.co/maps/zye7r Monsanto Company 341 S High St Randolph WI 35956

 

[donnay]

New study reveals how glyphosate in Monsanto's Roundup inhibits natural detoxification in human cells

by: Lance Devon

The modern age of industrial agriculture and manufacturing has dumped heavy metals, carninogens, plastics, and pesticides into the environment at alarming rates. These toxins are showing up in most human tissue cells today. One distinct chemical may be trapping these toxins in human cells, limiting the human body's ability to detoxify its own cells. In a new peer reviewed study, this sinister chemical, glyphosate, has been proven to inhibit the human cell's ability to detoxify altogether. Glyphosate, found in Monsanto's Roundup, is being deemed by publishers of the new study "one of the most dangerous chemicals" being unleashed into the environment today.

Download the PDF of the study here: http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/4/1416


How glyphosate destroys human cells

Glyphosate, most commonly found in conventional sugar, corn, soy and wheat products, throws off the cytochrome P450 gene pathway, inhibiting enzyme production in the body. CYP enzymes play a crucial role in detoxifying xenobiotics, which include drugs, carcinogens, and pesticides. By inhibiting this natural detoxification process, glyphosate systematically enhances the damaging effects of other environmental toxins that get in the body. This, in turn, disrupts homeostasis, increases inflammation, and leads to a slow deconstruction of the cellular system. Toxins build up in the gut over time and break down through the intestinal walls, infiltrating blood, and ultimately passing through the brain/blood barrier, damaging neurological function.

Important CYP enzymes that are affected include aromatase, the enzyme that converts androgen into estrogen, 21-Hydroxylase, which creates stress hormone cortisol, and aldosterone, which regulates blood pressure.


Getting to the gut

Even as evidence mounts, Monsanto asserts that glyphosate is not harmful to humans, citing that its mechanism of action in plants (the disruption of the shikimate pathway), is not present in humans. This is not true.

The shikimate pathway, which is involved in the synthesis of the essential aromatic amino acids phenylalanine, tyrosine, and tryptophan, is present in human gut bacteria, which has a direct relationship with the human body, aiding in digestion, synthesizing vitamins, detoxifying carcinogens, and participating in immune system function.

By inhibiting the body's gut flora from performing its essential function in the human body, glyphosate heightens many health issues facing the Western world today.

These conditions include inflammatory bowel diseases, Crohn's disease, obesity, and even dementia and depression. Also, by restricting gut bacteria from absorbing nutrients, glyphosate voids the body of essential life-giving vitamins.


Depletion of serum tryptophan and its link to obesity

Glysophate's damaging effects on gut bacteria lead to depleted sulfate supplies in the gut, resulting in inflammatory bowel disease. As more chemicals are absorbed from the environment, alterations in body chemistry actively promote weight gain by blocking nutrient absorption. By effecting CYP enzymes in the liver, obesity incidence is compounded, impairing the body's ability to detoxify synthetics chemicals. Since serotonin is derived from tryptophan and acts an appetite suppressant, the depletion of tryptophan encourages overeating in the brain, leading to obesity.


In need of urgent, massive awakening

Authors of the new review point out that "glyphosate is likely to be pervasive in our food supply and may be the most biologically disruptive chemical in our environment." Monsanto is already lashing back at these claims, calling this peer reviewed study, "bad science" and "another bogus study." What Monsanto fails to is mention that most of the studies on glyphosate's "safety" are conducted by Monsanto themselves, which is bias to the core.

The authors of this new study instead call out for more independent research to be done to validate their findings. They are concerned with glyphosate's inhibition of the cytochrome P450 (CYP) enzymes in the body, which are hindering the body's natural detoxification ability.

There is certainly a need for more empowering education on chemicals like glyphosate. There needs to be a kind of public mass awakening that correlates Monsanto's Roundup with skull and crossbones. If anything, Americans have the right to know how their food was produced, engineered, and poisoned, and everyone should pitch in and stop using toxic glyphosate-laced Roundup at all costs.

Sources for this article include:

http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/4/1416

http://www.enewspf.com

http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Which is why WE need to be involved to educate and direct them as to who the real enemies are. That's what I did, and it worked very, very well. The entire Greensboro event applauded loudly when I identified the FDA as the problem rather than the solution. We could have replicated that around the nation and ben a lot further along towards a genuine solution today.

You are right that most of these people do not know any better. The solution to ignorance is education. Educating them as to why the FDA is the problem and not the solution is our job. We should be doing it.

And THIS is why you're walking the walk. Some people around here act as if opinions are static.

 

[osan]

My far left uncle is attending this march. The left will certainly attend any march that villifies a business or corporation.

This actually brings up an interesting and valid point.

Today we live in a world bombarded by all manner of information on any given issue. We also live in an era that is not so unlike others at its core. Go back several centuries and there was mania about witches and witchcraft and as "quaint" as it may all seem to us today, it was deadly serious business in those days and people were tortured, maimed, and murdered in generous abundance in its course.

What do we see today? Tons of "junk" science, which is to say baloney masquerading as science, cf. "global warming", the "need" to dope our children with dangerous psychotropic drugs, the ridiculous stretches of diagnosis that have been put into the latest revision of the DSM, and so forth. This so-called "incrementalism" coupled with a very clear flight from faith to what I will dare to label as proper moral principle constitute two elements in a formula for disaster. This is nothing new, but there is a difference: technology. More than any priest's or king's personal rantings, the levers that contemporary technologies provide result in arguments so powerful and so seemingly unassailable that people in general take them as the word of God hisownself. Those of a more reticently skeptical habit are really no better off because the end products of today's technological wonders leave very little indication as to their truth value in most cases.

Our only real fortune in all of this has been the occurrence of a handful of glaring failures of these technologies that have made us aware that they do indeed fail, and can and are used toward deceptive ends. All the more basis for worry, because the frauds are so good that those we discover we do so only because someone screwed the pooch. How many are upon us as we type, accepted as truth and not questioned?

Enter Monsanto and GMO. I hold a very low opinion of that entity and have repeatedly stated my desire to see them nuked. Then all of a sudden comes this "global push-back" and it jarred me to the thought and question, "is this truthful or is it all a contrived attack for reasons other than the obvious?" Are there ulterior motives?

Monsanto stands accused of all manner of evil. Is it true? Is it confabulation of truth to render deceitful pictures? Speaking only for myself, I cannot tell. There is a part of me that wants to believe they are the devil in the flesh. I want something to rail against and see destroyed in payment for all the evils I witness about me for which the average fool cannot be held strongly responsible, though not entirely innocent either. It is the realization of that almost reflexive desire which at this moment jarred my skeptic back into consciousness and who is now asking whether this is what it appears to be.

The evidence seems strong. The expertise working against Monsanto seems credible and overwhelming in many respects. The same was so in the middle ages when people were tried as witches and look at how we regard that now? Things were every bit as convincing then as now, yet we dismiss what was done then at best as having been ignorance and reason failure on a scale approaching the grotesque. But what of this? Is Monsanto really guilty? It pains me almost literally to write these words because I actually almost hate Monsanto and would revel in their destruction as a corporate entity for all the evil I perceive them as having foisted upon this world. Some of their deeds seem unacceptable, such as their claim to the right to destroy the crops of farmers whose non-Monsanto produce has been contaminated with their product. But is it criminal? Or is it a business entity looking after its own best interests and perhaps having run off the rails but not yet into the realm of actual criminality? I am not smart enough on this to know and I now sit wondering whether my ire against this entity is justified or whether I have been taken in along with many millions of others.

Consider some curious thoughts. What if everything Monsanto produces in GMO terms was actually not only safe, but in fact better for you than non-GMO fare? I do not claim this to be the case, but work with me a moment for argument's sake. Hell, even if the health value were precisely the same as that of non-GMO foods, the advantage there might be the ability of such crops to produce far higher yields, thereby making available to the world far more abundant food. By some points of view, this is a net gain, all else equal.

Now, consider the officially stated goals of organizations such as the UN. Consider the quasi-official statements of world leaders including our own (Bill Clinton?) who have openly stated that the goals of world governance include the drastic reduction of human populations. Rarely do they mention time frame or extents, but even if we cut that population by "only" 25%, that is billions of souls. Time frame in combination with percentage becomes key and this is not advertised. But we get clues in other statements that say "by 2030 the world will be doomed <this way> if we don't do X" and so forth (please do not take that statement too literally as I am only trying to make a more general point).

If it is indeed the goal of "world leaders" to significantly reduce world populations in a time frame that is shorter than what can be very reliably expected from a statistical standpoint based on a sample space of literally billions of people, the question immediately follows: by what inorganic means are populations expected to be miraculously reduced of their own accord? "Inorganic means", of course, so very directly implies culling. Forget for this argument the questions of who decides to live, how and when they are to be "harvested" and so forth and assume it is the case. Given it, would there not be a strong conflict of interest between those shadowy "leaders" and Monsanto, the technologies of which stand to feed the very people the Illumined Ones seek to eradicate from the roles of the living?

I am not saying this is in fact what is happening, but consider the sudden rise to prominence of this issue to the forefront of awareness in our esteemed and most solidly and honestly independent media. Monsanto has been up to its "tricks" for years - quite successfully. Why has there been no groundswell until now, despite millions of people having been aware, frightened, and seemingly fed up? We see example after example of selective media attention on all manner of issues. Why should this be any different? Why should this be all innocently organic and honest? What would have triggered this sudden attention such that millions of people worldwide now march against the evil capitalist giant Monsanto? Does nothing here leave an odor in your nostrils prompting you to at least wonder just a little what might be going on in fuller truth?

If this conflict of interest indeed exists, would we not expect to see precisely that which we are now seeing? In how many cases has "government" been caught, pants at their ankles, backing actions that are patently not in "our" better interests? Now all of a sudden they are the champions of the little people? I am sorry, but as I consider this, the odor takes on an augmented amplitude. Something seems possibly amiss here, given the broader context. But nothing can be strongly demonstrated and that is what worries me. What if there is in fact an agenda to neutralize Monsanto, not to destroy them, but to eliminate their ability to continue to provide bountiful food to the world?

Let us beware that there are two separate issues at work here where Monsanto is concerned. The first is the question of whether GMO is "safe" for some sufficient definition of that term. The other regards their business practices. It is possible that Monsanto operates on a less-than-clearly-ethical business level but nevertheless produces a perfectly safe product. I am not saying this is the case, but it is possibly so. How do we find out? I do not have an answer there, but am raising these questions so that people might stop, take a breath and at least consider the possibility that Monsanto is the target of a deliberate campaign to scuttle some aspect of their operations. If this were to be the case, how would we know it? If the truth is in fact being told, how can we verify it? We have no idea who these talking heads are, what their innermost motives might be, to whom else they might be in service incognito, or whether we are being given truth or just another pack of lies and deceit.

Look at the emotional level. Is it not high and heading toward feverish? Now look back into history, just that of the past 100 years or even less, and see where these conditions have arisen before. Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, '68 Democratic Convention... get the picture? I now feel compelled to put on the brakes and reconsider my current assessment, and I can tell you that this is about as pleasant as stopping ones urination in mid-stream. The body chafes, and at this moment my mind is chafing aplenty. I don't want to reevaluate because it feels good to want to see Monsanto crushed in the belief that they have foisted great evils upon us. But my other side, the one with the tilted and bent halo about its head has that look on its face and tone in its voice of profound disappointment, expectation, and the attendant demand that I do the right thing, which is to withdraw from the union with my desire to see "justice" done and get back on the fence where the pickets irritate parts they were never intended to pay visit.

Perhaps Monsanto is in fact the devil as claimed. But what if they are not quite that? What if they are only guilty of having acted with unacceptable levels of avarice in pursuit of their business interests? What if their products in fact stand as a boon to humanity? What if that conflict between what Monsanto does in this case and those working toward the non-trivial reduction of human populations within unnatural time frames is real? Would any rational and honest adult having lived long enough to have witnessed what "government" does be able to dismiss out of hand the possibility that this is all an effort to better ensure the agenda of depopulation is not compromised?

Stop. Take a moment to breathe. Take a moment to think. Just consider the questions I raise here and see if you can come up with your own. Do these questions put you at ease or do they raise red flags? This world is so crazy anymore I can no longer come to universally pat conclusions on such issues. The subterfuge is so thick and adept that it becomes passing difficult to tell who lies or does not.

I for one could use some help in some of this, so if anyone has anything earth shaking to offer, I'm all eyes.

 

[jmdrake]

Under an expansive (and wrong) interpretation it would but then if you recognize the Feds can label food you have to accept they can mandate you to buy healthcare and everything else which as you know was never the intention of the Founding fathers vision of a limited government with enumerated powers.

Ummmm.....no. Monsanto is actually engaged in interstate commerce. If you are not buying healthcare you are not engaged in interstate commerce. Years ago, when the interstate commerce clause was actually respected, there were all sorts of federal laws that included the words "going across state lines" simply so that they could fall under the interstate commerce clause. After Wickard v. Filburn, the federal government expanded its power to include not just interstate commerce itself, but anything that affects interstate commerce.

I think what's confusing is that there are libertarian principles that transcend constitutional ones. For instance, if you really believe that government mandated labeling of genetically modified food is a violation of the free market, it's still a violation whether California does it or the federal government does it.

The real question, from a libertarian point of view, is "What is the free market alternative to reining in Monsanto?" Answer? Pass federal legislation banning gene patents, or at the very least patents for agricultural genes. While the federal government has the constitutional right to grant patents, it is not constitutionally mandated to grant them and it certainly isn't constitutionally mandated to grant patents for every think that might be conceivably patentable. I think Monsanto would rather go with GMO food labeling than losing their patents.

 

[osan]

Fraud doesn't suddenly become OK just because someone, somewhere might know about it.

And nobody on RPF's much less in this thread believes that the FDA is capable of, well, pretty much anything. What needs to happen is abolish the FDA and then all of this becomes a moot discussion. The FDA, however, is not getting abolished any time soon, so we have to deal with the reality we are faced with.

But FDA CAN be reeled WAY in. There are functions FDA could discharge that could be validly called "proper". Their role as it stands, however, is out of the ballpark and in fact off-planet.

Any Federal level labeling requirements are unconstitutional. It would be Constitutional under the original intent of the commerce clause to require labeling for GMO foodstuffs that cross State borders, but it would not be effective, and would lead to unintended consequences. Therefore any labeling scheme at the federal level should be opposed.

Agreed, and this would open opportunities for free markets. If food purity is in fact so important, companies specializing in testing the products of corporations and small independents would have abundant opportunities to thrive.

Labeling requirements at the State level are both Constitutional and far more effective, but still not the best solution.

This I do not buy. The "states' rights" argument has a terrible stink on it and nobody as yet has been able to convince me of its legitimacy. If violation of a human right is not within the proper authority of the feds, why would it be in the case of the states? Fed !> states. States !> people.

Instead, the best solution would be to add to the definition of fraud the claim that a GMO [product] is just a [product]. Therefore, for as long as a company is required to label ingredients, then any GMO ingredients must be identified as GMO or the labeling is fraudulent. Then, when we finally manage to abolish the FDA and labeling laws, the requirement goes obsolete and we are left only with the basic requirement "don't perpetrate fraud."

Agreed. It would be my expectation that as the demise of FDA loomed, investment in new companies - food watchdogs - would be furious with activity. But such companies would have to be held to the same accountability. Make no unfounded accusations. Publish your findings, let others corroborate, then let prosecutors do their thing, if warranted. This could work VERY well.

I admit that I am astonished at the passion of those in the liberty movement who are OK with -- and even vehemently defend -- the practice of companies passing off frogmatos as though they were tomatos, with the full regulatory backing of the FDA to keep such things secret from the public. How is fraud OK just because some random guy doesn't mind it? Should it be OK to sell pork products to a Jew or a Muslim calling it 'beef' just because a Christian doesn't care? Of course not.

Logical consistency is not everyone's strong suit.

And "hire a lab" is asinine. It's Ok to perpetrate fraud on people simply because we have the capability of spending $5000 for every meal to test it before we eat it? I don't think so.

I do not envision that. But companies that operate like Consumer Reports could do the detective work in place of FDA.

People should have the right to consume GMO if they want, just like people should have the right to consume Drāno or heroin if they want. Putting heroin into my food in secret and telling me that it's OK because I can always have it tested before I eat it is not OK.

Your point is well taken, but does not account for accidental contamination of non-GMO by GMO and vise-versa. Plants flower and bees pollinate. They do not distinguish between GMO and non-. How will GMO salmon be segregated from non-? The argument that they will be "contained" fails monumentally. One SINGLE grain of pollen escapes a "safe" facility and makes it, however unlikely, to non-GMO flower of same species and you have potential contagion.

Because of the nature of the reproductive processes of most living things, we are faced as a very practical issue "To GMO, or not to GMO... THAT is the question..." I am in no way even remotely confident that GMO on anything but the most trivial scales conducted under military-like, shoot on sight security could possibly hope to maintain segregation. This, of course, raises the question of whose rights trump whose? Are the non-GMO consumers more entitled or are GMOs? This is a central question because as of this writing, it is IMPOSSIBLE in practical terms to keep the two camps from mixing. GMOers may view their foods as contaminated and the non-GMOers will most certainly regard theirs as having been contaminated. This is a Pandora's Box issue Glen. No question about it. Once opened, can the little bat-like things be caught and stuffed back in? Can we put grapes back on the vine?

 

[Thor]

This actually brings up an interesting and valid point.

Today we live in a world bombarded by all manner of information on any given issue. We also live in an era that is not so unlike others at its core. Go back several centuries and there was mania about witches and witchcraft and as "quaint" as it may all seem to us today, it was deadly serious business in those days and people were tortured, maimed, and murdered in generous abundance in its course.

What do we see today? Tons of "junk" science, which is to say baloney masquerading as science, cf. "global warming", the "need" to dope our children with dangerous psychotropic drugs, the ridiculous stretches of diagnosis that have been put into the latest revision of the DSM, and so forth. This so-called "incrementalism" coupled with a very clear flight from faith to what I will dare to label as proper moral principle constitute two elements in a formula for disaster. This is nothing new, but there is a difference: technology. More than any priest's or king's personal rantings, the levers that contemporary technologies provide result in arguments so powerful and so seemingly unassailable that people in general take them as the word of God hisownself. Those of a more reticently skeptical habit are really no better off because the end products of today's technological wonders leave very little indication as to their truth value in most cases.

Our only real fortune in all of this has been the occurrence of a handful of glaring failures of these technologies that have made us aware that they do indeed fail, and can and are used toward deceptive ends. All the more basis for worry, because the frauds are so good that those we discover we do so only because someone screwed the pooch. How many are upon us as we type, accepted as truth and not questioned?

Enter Monsanto and GMO. I hold a very low opinion of that entity and have repeatedly stated my desire to see them nuked. Then all of a sudden comes this "global push-back" and it jarred me to the thought and question, "is this truthful or is it all a contrived attack for reasons other than the obvious?" Are there ulterior motives?

Monsanto stands accused of all manner of evil. Is it true? Is it confabulation of truth to render deceitful pictures? Speaking only for myself, I cannot tell. There is a part of me that wants to believe they are the devil in the flesh. I want something to rail against and see destroyed in payment for all the evils I witness about me for which the average fool cannot be held strongly responsible, though not entirely innocent either. It is the realization of that almost reflexive desire which at this moment jarred my skeptic back into consciousness and who is now asking whether this is what it appears to be.

The evidence seems strong. The expertise working against Monsanto seems credible and overwhelming in many respects. The same was so in the middle ages when people were tried as witches and look at how we regard that now? Things were every bit as convincing then as now, yet we dismiss what was done then at best as having been ignorance and reason failure on a scale approaching the grotesque. But what of this? Is Monsanto really guilty? It pains me almost literally to write these words because I actually almost hate Monsanto and would revel in their destruction as a corporate entity for all the evil I perceive them as having foisted upon this world. Some of their deeds seem unacceptable, such as their claim to the right to destroy the crops of farmers whose non-Monsanto produce has been contaminated with their product. But is it criminal? Or is it a business entity looking after its own best interests and perhaps having run off the rails but not yet into the realm of actual criminality? I am not smart enough on this to know and I now sit wondering whether my ire against this entity is justified or whether I have been taken in along with many millions of others.

Consider some curious thoughts. What if everything Monsanto produces in GMO terms was actually not only safe, but in fact better for you than non-GMO fare? I do not claim this to be the case, but work with me a moment for argument's sake. Hell, even if the health value were precisely the same as that of non-GMO foods, the advantage there might be the ability of such crops to produce far higher yields, thereby making available to the world far more abundant food. By some points of view, this is a net gain, all else equal.

Now, consider the officially stated goals of organizations such as the UN. Consider the quasi-official statements of world leaders including our own (Bill Clinton?) who have openly stated that the goals of world governance include the drastic reduction of human populations. Rarely do they mention time frame or extents, but even if we cut that population by "only" 25%, that is billions of souls. Time frame in combination with percentage becomes key and this is not advertised. But we get clues in other statements that say "by 2030 the world will be doomed <this way> if we don't do X" and so forth (please do not take that statement too literally as I am only trying to make a more general point).

If it is indeed the goal of "world leaders" to significantly reduce world populations in a time frame that is shorter than what can be very reliably expected from a statistical standpoint based on a sample space of literally billions of people, the question immediately follows: by what inorganic means are populations expected to be miraculously reduced of their own accord? "Inorganic means", of course, so very directly implies culling. Forget for this argument the questions of who decides to live, how and when they are to be "harvested" and so forth and assume it is the case. Given it, would there not be a strong conflict of interest between those shadowy "leaders" and Monsanto, the technologies of which stand to feed the very people the Illumined Ones seek to eradicate from the roles of the living?

I am not saying this is in fact what is happening, but consider the sudden rise to prominence of this issue to the forefront of awareness in our esteemed and most solidly and honestly independent media. Monsanto has been up to its "tricks" for years - quite successfully. Why has there been no groundswell until now, despite millions of people having been aware, frightened, and seemingly fed up? We see example after example of selective media attention on all manner of issues. Why should this be any different? Why should this be all innocently organic and honest? What would have triggered this sudden attention such that millions of people worldwide now march against the evil capitalist giant Monsanto? Does nothing here leave an odor in your nostrils prompting you to at least wonder just a little what might be going on in fuller truth?

If this conflict of interest indeed exists, would we not expect to see precisely that which we are now seeing? In how many cases has "government" been caught, pants at their ankles, backing actions that are patently not in "our" better interests? Now all of a sudden they are the champions of the little people? I am sorry, but as I consider this, the odor takes on an augmented amplitude. Something seems possibly amiss here, given the broader context. But nothing can be strongly demonstrated and that is what worries me. What if there is in fact an agenda to neutralize Monsanto, not to destroy them, but to eliminate their ability to continue to provide bountiful food to the world?

Let us beware that there are two separate issues at work here where Monsanto is concerned. The first is the question of whether GMO is "safe" for some sufficient definition of that term. The other regards their business practices. It is possible that Monsanto operates on a less-than-clearly-ethical business level but nevertheless produces a perfectly safe product. I am not saying this is the case, but it is possibly so. How do we find out? I do not have an answer there, but am raising these questions so that people might stop, take a breath and at least consider the possibility that Monsanto is the target of a deliberate campaign to scuttle some aspect of their operations. If this were to be the case, how would we know it? If the truth is in fact being told, how can we verify it? We have no idea who these talking heads are, what their innermost motives might be, to whom else they might be in service incognito, or whether we are being given truth or just another pack of lies and deceit.

Look at the emotional level. Is it not high and heading toward feverish? Now look back into history, just that of the past 100 years or even less, and see where these conditions have arisen before. Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, '68 Democratic Convention... get the picture? I now feel compelled to put on the brakes and reconsider my current assessment, and I can tell you that this is about as pleasant as stopping ones urination in mid-stream. The body chafes, and at this moment my mind is chafing aplenty. I don't want to reevaluate because it feels good to want to see Monsanto crushed in the belief that they have foisted great evils upon us. But my other side, the one with the tilted and bent halo about its head has that look on its face and tone in its voice of profound disappointment, expectation, and the attendant demand that I do the right thing, which is to withdraw from the union with my desire to see "justice" done and get back on the fence where the pickets irritate parts they were never intended to pay visit.

Perhaps Monsanto is in fact the devil as claimed. But what if they are not quite that? What if they are only guilty of having acted with unacceptable levels of avarice in pursuit of their business interests? What if their products in fact stand as a boon to humanity? What if that conflict between what Monsanto does in this case and those working toward the non-trivial reduction of human populations within unnatural time frames is real? Would any rational and honest adult having lived long enough to have witnessed what "government" does be able to dismiss out of hand the possibility that this is all an effort to better ensure the agenda of depopulation is not compromised?

Stop. Take a moment to breathe. Take a moment to think. Just consider the questions I raise here and see if you can come up with your own. Do these questions put you at ease or do they raise red flags? This world is so crazy anymore I can no longer come to universally pat conclusions on such issues. The subterfuge is so thick and adept that it becomes passing difficult to tell who lies or does not.

I for one could use some help in some of this, so if anyone has anything earth shaking to offer, I'm all eyes.

Interesting thoughts. I see where you are coming from and I see where you want to be aware of false witch hunts. However, there have been lots of independent studies on GMO foods and their effects on living animals and I don't feel like those results have a motive of disinformation to undermine and neutralize a beneficial force.

I think you are correct in pointing out their business objectives; but if their goal is populace sustainability, I think that the food they craft would not have the long term effects the studies have uncovered. And they might be more about seeds being able to reproduce to create bounty if their goal is sustainability, rather then the built in destruction of the regenerative nature of the plant so new seeds must be bought each season.

Therefore I think it is more about greed and controlling what is currently natural - to collect a toll (from patent protection and engineered destruction for lack of sustainability), no matter the cost to the human species. It just means more drug sales for big pharma, to sell pills and treatments to correct the wrongs their creations have created. So "they" (big corporations) get you coming and going. You are just an organism for them to live off of, financially speaking.

Social media is waking people up by sharing information like this. Until social media starts controlling the information being shared - Facebook censors pictures of children rallying against GMOs during global March Against Monsanto - and yes, it is Natural News.

I think, if GMO's are allowed to expand unabated, the long term outlook for the human species is one of sickness and further enslavement to the system. Not allowed to eat unless you pay into the system for their version of "food", sickness from what you eat meaning you need big pharma cures that you must pay into. While being taxed at the same time.... Feed the machine. Depend on the machine. A cog in the machine. A cow or sheep if you will.

Edit: While you might think global warming or climate change is "junk science," I think it is short sighted for the human species (that you point out there are others who think we cannot keep growing at such a rate and live on this planet for much longer) does not impact this planet at all. Looking at micro-ecosystems and the effects that can play out in those environments with over population, or other variables introduced such as toxic substances, etc. is no different when the numbers of humans expands to the point that earth becomes a micro-ecosystem in and of itself. I will agree that there are those using this to further their own socialist objectives, which is wrong, but I think dismissing the entire premise of people pissing and crapping everywhere (literally and figuratively) having no impact is equally wrong.

 

[Roxi]

Some of you completely miss the point of everything.

Of all of the people I know who attended marches, and this would include myself if I had been able to attend one, NONE of them are for government encroachment on private business.

The march was about raising awareness, not demanding government intervention. Sure there were plenty of bleeding hearts there that probably wanted that, but I would not say that was the majority.

As an aside, some of us are waiting for the app to get back into the Google Play store.

I guess it's all kind of pointless though when thousands of people from cities all over the world to gather for a cause and national media doesn't touch it. Oh well, might was well just stay home and sit on the couch and bitch about it right?

Find a cause, stand up and be vocal about it, or quit f*$#&ing ragging on people who ARE doing that.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

My far left uncle is attending this march. The left will certainly attend any march that villifies a business or corporation.

You people who think Monsanto is a legitimate business are so full of shit. Why can't you see what's really going on here?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

A lot of those people would identify the problem as rich people controlling government. In these parts, people identify it as businesses controlling government.

I'll submit this for your consideration. If businesses are large enough to control government, aren't we also talking about rich people controlling government?

I would say it's government controlling business.

 

[Working Poor]

Zz

 

[Debbie Downer]

 

[Warlord]

That is completely naïve. 98% of the corn and soybeans grown in our country are GMO.

So avoid corn and soybeans then or find the 2% that aren't :/

 

[Natural Citizen]

I guess it's all kind of pointless though when thousands of people from cities all over the world to gather for a cause and national media doesn't touch it.

Consider this a blessing.

 

[Warlord]

Ummmm.....no. Monsanto is actually engaged in interstate commerce. If you are not buying healthcare you are not engaged in interstate commerce. Years ago, when the interstate commerce clause was actually respected, there were all sorts of federal laws that included the words "going across state lines" simply so that they could fall under the interstate commerce clause. After Wickard v. Filburn, the federal government expanded its power to include not just interstate commerce itself, but anything that affects interstate commerce.

I think what's confusing is that there are libertarian principles that transcend constitutional ones. For instance, if you really believe that government mandated labeling of genetically modified food is a violation of the free market, it's still a violation whether California does it or the federal government does it.

The real question, from a libertarian point of view, is "What is the free market alternative to reining in Monsanto?" Answer? Pass federal legislation banning gene patents, or at the very least patents for agricultural genes. While the federal government has the constitutional right to grant patents, it is not constitutionally mandated to grant them and it certainly isn't constitutionally mandated to grant patents for every think that might be conceivably patentable. I think Monsanto would rather go with GMO food labeling than losing their patents.

If Monsanto or an affiliate is based in TN, sells some GMO seeds to a TN farmer and the TN farmer supplies his wares to a TN wholesaler who then supplies to a TN store how is this interstate commerce?

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Well part of the problem is that the rallies are distributed and smaller so easier to ignore. Still, reports of 2 Million ppl and 450+ cities (from the organizers) comes in around ~4,000ppl per rally. It didn't look like that number of rallies or people.

For some perspective, there are a bit over 7 billion people living on this planet. 2 Million of them showed up. The world has a birth/death ratio of just over 2/1. That's basically an exponential curve of new mouths. The earth has a pretty good immune system. Black Plague, Hemorrhagic Fevers, AIDS, Cholera, Famine...

Just something to think about as far as the big picture goes...

The uprising is good, but what I think is doing more good is countries banning their seeds and research interest into how hazardous they are to health.

-t

 

[Thor]

That is so wrong and such a lame analogy it is hardly worth commenting, but I will...

"Banning GMO's because.... they infringe upon Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Monstanto, Bayer, whomever the company trying to control the food supply.

Having a corporation control, gate keep, manipulate and adulterate your food is encroachment and infringement on Life.
Sickness resulting from GMO's is destructive and infringement to your Life and Happiness.

 

[Warlord]

That is so wrong and such a lame analogy it is hardly worth commenting, but I will...

"Banning GMO's because.... they infringe upon Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Monstanto, Bayer, whomever the company trying to control the food supply.

Having a corporation control, gate keep, manipulate and adulterate your food is encroachment and infringement on Life.
Sickness resulting from GMO's is destructive and infringement to your Life and Happiness.

That's a gross infringement of Monsanto's constitutional rights.

Lets ban cigarettes and beer. After all they can cause cancer and liver damage.

But no, that too would be an infringement of a corporations rights.