March Against Monsanto - Updates

[Carlybee]

Where'd you get the idea that the FDA would charge less money then a private lab? Like Debbie Downer has articulated well, you have every right to avoid products lacking the labels you want, but you have no right to force the world to fund FDA labels suiting your own personal values.

Why have any labels at all then? Just stick it on the shelf, pays your money and takes your chances...pot luck! "Maybe it's peas...maybe it's carrots...maybe it's corn!"

 

[Warlord]

What makes you think they have the gift of the 1st amendment, warlord? Show me the specific court decision that says so.

The amendment says they do :/ and yes, courts have recognized corporations have free speech and 1st amendment rights to PETITION the government most recently in striking down McCain's pathetic attempts to regulate campaign finance.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

People aren't being force fed it Gunny.... with enough effort you can avoid their products. Yes, it's difficult (and increasingly expensive) because they're pervasive but it's not impossible and people are not being force fed!

It would be easier if the march-organizers had focused more on boycotting Monsanto and facilitating alternatives. The marchers could have spent their Saturday organizing cooperative food production and distribution.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Oh, well. Junior has his first semi-pro baseball game today so I'll check back with you good folks later. Good afternoon.

 

[Warlord]

It would be easier if the march-organizers had focused more on boycotting Monsanto and facilitating alternatives. The marchers could have spent their Saturday organizing cooperative food production and distribution.

Agreed! Warlord approves of co-ops and bulk buying. You should see the deals we get from the markets in Pakistan!

 

[FrankRep]

What makes you think they have the gift of constitution, warlord? Show me the specific court decision that says so.I gave you the one that says they don't.

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310 (2010), is a US constitutional law case, in which the United States Supreme Court held that the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting political independent expenditures by corporations, associations, or labor unions.


The Coming Small Business Revolution on Politics after Citizens United v. FEC

The Supreme Court decision to strike down a key part of the McCain-Feingold law in the case of Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission promises to unleash the electoral fury of America's small businesses and citizens groups, so the New York Times and all of the official left is naturally squealing like a stuck pig.​

 

[Warlord]

Oh dear... Small business now a voice. Can't have that can we senators?

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

All I'm asking is that you stop excusing the fascist government/food industrial complex from cramming the stuff down my throat without my knowledge.

I don't want to prevent your free access to GMO if you want it, all I'm asking is stop supporting the governments efforts to cram the shit down my throat without my knowledge. Is that really too much to ask?

But nothing's being crammed down my throat, actually.

 

[Carlybee]

It would be easier if the march-organizers had focused more on boycotting Monsanto and facilitating alternatives. The marchers could have spent their Saturday organizing cooperative food production and distribution.

The problem with boycotting Monsanto is there is no way to boycott them. How would you know which products contain Monsanto seedstock? Yes we know they make Roundup and probably other visible products. Not everyone uses Roundup or has a yard so it would be pointless for them to try and boycott something they don't use anyway.


We can wiki and get a list of foods that we know of but I'm guessing it's far from complete.

 

[Dr.3D]

I'm always leery of people who refer to themselves in the third person.

 

[Warlord]

The problem with boycotting Monsanto is there is no way to boycott them. How would you know which products contain Monsanto seedstock? Yes we know they make Roundup and probably other visible products. Not everyone uses Roundup or has a yard so it would be pointless for them to try and boycott something they don't use anyway.


We can wiki and get a list of foods that we know of but I'm guessing it's far from complete.

Warlord has spotted troops in his country with books and guides on how to avoid Monsanto. In fact, Mike Adams and NaturalNews produces one with thousands of delicious products listed?

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

The problem with boycotting Monsanto is there is no way to boycott them. How would you know which products contain Monsanto seedstock? ... We can wiki and get a list of foods that we know of but I'm guessing it's far from complete.

So Wiki products not containing Monsanto, and stick with those products?

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

Why have any labels at all then? Just stick it on the shelf, pays your money and takes your chances...pot luck! "Maybe it's peas...maybe it's carrots...maybe it's corn!"

Why prohibit that? If it sells, who are you to stop anyone else from selling or buying it? If it doesn't suit your own personal values, no one's cramming it down your throat. If you're willing to pay more for something that does have a label, then someone who wants your money will be willing to sell food labeled to suit you. The only problem is, you want the government to use violence to ensure that every label in every store suits your own particular set of personal values.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

Why can't you see what's really going on here?

Has "what's really going on here" been posted in this thread, or am I expected to watch a hundred YouTube videos to find out?

Something wrong with watching youtube videos?

It would take lifetimes to watch every YouTube video returned by a search for "Monsanto".

Why shouldn't you expect to do work in order to uncover the truth?

I have no time for wading through hippie videos, seriously, so now you know why I don't know "what's really going on here", and I'm never going to know, unless you care enough to post it in concisely this thread. If you don't want to wake up the masses like me, okay then.

 

[Barrex]

127 post in this thread so far

0 explanations given for why people aren't bothering to hire a private lab

Kneejerk fascism on display.

Because Monsanto is holding a lot of world governments in its pockets. Because Monsanto people (exCEOs, managers etc.) are now ministers in governments and heads of government agencies around the world. If people "bother" to privately test Monsanto poisons. That is how we know that it is poison and not food. Monsanto agents in government and lobbyists are stopping free market to function by passing regulations, decrees and laws that are silencing banning and stopping truth to come out. There is fascism but it is Monsanto that is doing it and not we. And let me assure you that there is nothing "kneejerk" in their fascism. It is all well planned, lobbied and executed.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Because Monsanto is holding a lot of world governments in its pockets. Because Monsanto people (exCEOs, managers etc.) are now ministers in governments and heads of government agencies around the world. If people "bother" to privately test Monsanto poisons. That is how we know that it is poison and not food. Monsanto agents in government and lobbyists are stopping free market to function by passing regulations, decrees and laws that are silencing banning and stopping truth to come out. There is fascism but it is Monsanto that is doing it and not we. And let me assure you that there is nothing "kneejerk" in their fascism. It is all well planned, lobbied and executed.

^^ THIS^^

For anyone that is hard to wake up about this: It's more than just a single "point" to show you how this has come about. There's plenty of info, legislation, execs statements, etc... Just take a look, for your damn self, instead of posting ignorance and anti-hippie statements. If you are a member here, you not a "kid" at research.

AGAIN: Read what Barrex said ^^^, truth, and it's out there.

 

[Carlybee]

Why prohibit that? If it sells, who are you to stop anyone else from selling or buying it? If it doesn't suit your own personal values, no one's cramming it down your throat. If you're willing to pay more for something that does have a label, then someone who wants your money will be willing to sell food labeled to suit you. The only problem is, you want the government to use violence to ensure that every label in every store suits your own particular set of personal values.

Hey fuqtard where did I say I wanted the government to use violence to ensure labeling? Check yourself.

 

[Thor]

Because Monsanto is holding a lot of world governments in its pockets. Because Monsanto people (exCEOs, managers etc.) are now ministers in governments and heads of government agencies around the world. If people "bother" to privately test Monsanto poisons. That is how we know that it is poison and not food. Monsanto agents in government and lobbyists are stopping free market to function by passing regulations, decrees and laws that are silencing banning and stopping truth to come out. There is fascism but it is Monsanto that is doing it and not we. And let me assure you that there is nothing "kneejerk" in their fascism. It is all well planned, lobbied and executed.

^^ THIS^^

For anyone that is hard to wake up about this: It's more than just a single "point" to show you how this has come about. There's plenty of info, legislation, execs statements, etc... Just take a look, for your damn self, instead of posting ignorance and anti-hippie statements. If you are a member here, you not a "kid" at research.

AGAIN: Read what Barrex said ^^^, truth, and it's out there.

I second that!

 

[Working Poor]

All you people who think Monsanto is using free market technique need to have your heads examined. It pisses me off so that that they control the fda and the usda and delude the people into thinking that if the ass hats say it is approved that means it is okay.

Ya'll need to look at the stats on childhood diabetes since they have been putting gmo hfcs in foods that are marketed to children and get back to me. They are killing children by the 1000s with this crap because parents believe the fda would never allow something harmful to be put in foods.

This should in no way be legal. I think they nerd to label to foods to balance out how Monsanto is able to control government agencies and even receive our tax dollars to do it. It is criminal and they should be stopped by whatever means available.

 

[AlexAmore]

It is not a "fiction" it is an absolute necessity and bedrock of a free market society.

Corporations are people: investors, people manage them. etc. This has been recognized for hundreds of years in the US, Europe, England.

You want to overturn about 500 years of advancement and development based on a political slogan and statement? LOL

The US is also not a Democracy and never has been so they can shove that up their ass too.

How can a government created corporation be the bedrock of a free society? Without government there would be no corporation. It's a government monopoly, they are certainly NOT a free-market phenomena.

Groups of people do not have rights. So with your logic there can be gay rights, and black rights. What if the corporation is made up of people from other countries? We'll need MOAR regulations!

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