MANHUNT after J6er takes off into NJ woods rather than being arrested

[Anti Federalist]

Train info:

The line that runs through Helmetta is part of the old Freehold & Jamesburg Agricultural Railroad.

50 years ago, most of the rails were pulled up and turned into bike trails. I know, I rode over them.

But there is still a line from Browns Yard in South Amboy that runs through Helmetta on it's way to Freehold NJ via Jamesburg.

That's the old CNJ "Blue Comet" route

It is just about defunct at this point and has very little traffic, as the only connection to the NE Corridor main line, is back through Brown's Yard, onto NJ Transit tracks over the Raritan river and then a spur line to Newark.

All of the NJ short lines that were left, were scooped up into Conrail in the 70's and then it was bought out by CSX in the 90s.

Bottom line, if he headed to the tracks, he's walking, more than likely..

 

[Valli6]

FBI offering $10,000 reward for info leading to arrest...

Sounds like the woods behind Yetman's home meet up with the New Jersey Pine Barrens. There's always been all kinds of folklore about the Pine Barrens. It's a million acres and rural, woodsy, swampy - supposedly still inhabited by strange people who choose to stay apart from the rest of the population. Always heard it's to be avoided and that cops won't go in there. I suppose if one has the right knowledge, one could hide in there for a long time and survive.

HELMETTA – The FBI is offering a $10,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of Gregory Yetman, a borough man wanted for his role in the Jan. 6 Capitol riots...

...directly behind Yetman's Main Street home are the Conrail railroad tracks and the Jamesburg Park Conservation area, an open space area owned by Middlesex County.

The 1,436-acre Jamesburg Park Conservation Area, includes walking and hiking trails and lies within the Spotswood Outlier – the northernmost area of New Jersey Pine Barrens habitat, according to the county's website.

"There is also a lot of private land in that area," said Sapia, who lives near the border of Helmetta "You're talking about a few thousand acres of open space, which includes wetlands, just behind his house."...

https://www.mycentraljersey.com/sto...-manhunt-gregory-yetman-jan-6-fbi/71514910007

 

[acptulsa]

...directly behind Yetman's Main Street home are the Conrail railroad tracks...

LOL

Locals still call them the Conrail tracks and the reporters don't know Conrail ceased to exist about twenty years ago.

More misinformation. Believe Anti Federalist instead.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Sounds like the woods behind Yetman's home meet up with the New Jersey Pine Barrens. There's always been all kinds of folklore about the Pine Barrens. It's a million acres and rural, woodsy, swampy - supposedly still inhabited by strange people who choose to stay apart from the rest of the population. Always heard it's to be avoided and that cops won't go in there. I suppose if one has the right knowledge, one could hide in there for a long time and survive.

LOL - I grew up there, and the rumors are just that, and also long gone.

Helmetta on is on the border of one of the most densely populated areas on the face of the earth.

To even begin to get into the Pine Barrens, which are mostly covered in retirement communities for city people, what's left are in state parks like Batso and Wharton, you'd need to travel roughly 20 miles due south, and cross the I-95 spur, I-195 that runs east and west from Trenton to the shore.

Those rail lines are still there, and they head in that direction, to the old PRSL tracks that go right across the Pine Barrens to AC and Philly.

But he'd stick out like a sore dick walking those tracks.

I don't know where he is, but I hope he makes it, just like the Russian in the Sopranos.

 

[acptulsa]

the old PRSL tracks

Pennsylvania -Reading Shore Line, a joint operation that all wound up part of Conrail.

Interesting that decades after various mergers tracks are still called by those old names. We still talk about Frisco and Katy tracks as often as BNSF and Union Pacific.

I don't know where he is, but I hope he makes it...

Godspeed, rebel.

 

[Snowball]

It's most likely a freight train track. You can hop on and off anywhere you choose - no need to wait for it to stop.

I know. But the track itself is still a cordonable starting point. Why give them that?

 

[acptulsa]

I know. But the track itself is still a cordonable starting point. Why give them that?

Because you can hop off and leave them and their dogs running miles up and down the line trying to figure out where, so they can pick up your scent again.

 

[dannno]

https://twitter.com/thevivafrei/status/1722703350297153538

 

[Anti Federalist]

Pennsylvania -Reading Shore Line, a joint operation that all wound up part of Conrail.

Interesting that decades after various mergers tracks are still called by those old names. We still talk about Frisco and Katy tracks as often as BNSF and Union Pacific.

My grandfather used to commute daily to Newark on the Pennsylvania/Central New Jersey - New York and Long Branch line.

Interesting fact you'd appreciate, he was a survivor of the crash of The Broker in Woodbridge in 1951.

He lived to almost 100 and he called them the "Pennsy Tracks" for the next 30 years, even after they were reduced to strictly commuter lines under NJ Transit.

Godspeed, rebel.

Agreed.

 

[Anti Federalist]

They are going to kill this man, or drive him to suicide.

You heard it here, first.

 

[acptulsa]

They are going to kill this man, or drive him to suicide.

You heard it here, first.

They won't kill him. They'll drive him to suicide even if they have to shoot him ten or twelve times to do it.

 

[Snowball]

Because you can hop off and leave them and their dogs running miles up and down the line trying to figure out where, so they can pick up your scent again.

Before you even think about it you have to know some things like

1) IS a train coming 2) about when is a train coming 3) chances the train would be going too fast to jump while its moving (might not be possible depending on loads)

even if those things fit, it's an added risk if enough time goes by, because you're putting your body in an area that is HOT to them.

 

[Anti Federalist]

They won't kill him. They'll drive him to suicide even if they have to shoot him ten or twelve times to do it.

Stop Resisting!!!

 

[acptulsa]

Before you even think about it you have to know some things like...

No, you don't. You just have to be sufficiently aware of your surroundings to use what happens to be there, regardless of what it is.

You'll never get away by sticking to your plan and refusing to improvise. You'll never get away by turning your nose up at alternatives. You sound like the kind of person who will get caught waiting for the train to pass, irritated at yourself for not including it in your inflexible plans.

How did you get obsessed with this mythical freight train? I think AF is right, the tracks are abandoned. There is no train. No train, no spoon, stop harping on it.

 

[Snowball]

No, you don't. You just have to be sufficiently aware of your surroundings to use what happens to be there, regardless of what it is.

You'll never get away by sticking to your plan and refusing to improvise. You'll never get away by turning your nose up at alternatives. You sound like the kind of person who will get caught waiting for the train to pass, irritated at yourself for not including it in your inflexible plans.

How did you get obsessed with this mythical freight train? I think AF is right, the tracks are abandoned. There is no train. No train, no spoon, stop harping on it.

I never said any of those things. All I tried to say in this thread is that going for the hopes of a freight train might not be your best bet.
Sounds like you agree with me. 'Nuff Said.

 

[Valli6]

I can attest to the fact that there are still freight trains running through NJ. I have no knowledge of the facts regarding those particular tracks near Yetman's home. Regardless, I'd say that discussion is beyond moot at this point. Hopping a freight train (it's fairly easy) would be a good way to immedately put miles between you and a pursuer, but that's all.

I'm now hearing comment-section rumors that Yetman surrendered this morning.

Godspeed, Yetman.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I can attest to the fact that there are still freight trains running through NJ. I have no knowledge of the facts regarding those particular tracks near Yetman's home. Regardless, I'd say that discussion is beyond moot at this point. Hopping a freight train (it's fairly easy) would be a good way to immedately put miles between you and a pursuer, but that's all.

I'm now hearing comment-section rumors that Yetman surrendered this morning.

Godspeed, Yetman.

Sorry if I came off "nit picky" but I do know those areas and railroads pretty well.

He would have been very very lucky to hop a freight going slow enough to board, and going the right way (away from cops) right when needed.

Leaving all that aside, did you ever think you see this shit here?

 

[Valli6]

Sorry if I came off "nit picky" but I do know those areas and railroads pretty well.
He would have been very very lucky to hop a freight going slow enough to board, and going the right way (away from cops) right when needed.
Leaving all that aside, did you ever think you see this shit here?

I consider any freight train slow because I can see how they plod by when they hold me up in traffic. I view them as easy to hop because I did so as a teenager and was not an especially athletic person. It was fun and exciting.

As to this shit here, I feel no sense of surprise, just sadness. It's only what I expect now.

 

[Valli6]

Gregory Yetman surrendered to Monroe Police Friday morning 11/10/23

(from the AP)

Fugitive suspect in Jan. 6 attack on Capitol surrenders to police in New Jersey
Updated 10:09 AM EST, November 10, 2023

...Gregory Yetman, 47, surrendered to police in Monroe Township on Friday morning without incident, said Amy Thoreson, a spokesperson for the Newark FBI office.

Monroe is near Yetman’s home in Helmetta, a small town in central New Jersey about 43 miles (69 kilometers) south of New York City.

The details of his surrender were not immediately available, including whether an attorney accompanied him or whether he has retained one. A telephone message left on an answering machine at Yetman’s home seeking comment was not immediately returned.

He is charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers; obstruction of law enforcement during civil disorder; entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds; engaging in physical violence in a restricted building or grounds; and committing an act of physical violence in the Capitol grounds or buildings, according to the FBI... (more)

https://apnews.com/article/capitol-...-surrendered-ab9d688cc4667870ff697c4164c5323b

 

[acptulsa]

I consider any freight train slow...

Be careful when you travel. The BNSF is still maintaining the Santa Fe main lines to the standard they were built to. At these crossings, that intermodal is liable to be coming at you at 70.

As to this $#@! here, I feel no sense of surprise, just sadness. It's only what I expect now.

It's what I've been expecting for some time, more or less. Somehow I expected less sheer idiocy. Considering how many people, over the years, told me that none of the things that are happening could possibly ever happen here, I should have known better.

The Boomers are in shock. When someone is in disbelief, sometimes you can release their anger by shaking them. Wish I could figure out how to trigger us.