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I wasn't listening, but I think she's just a supporter first and a radio host second.
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I wasn't listening, but I think she's just a supporter first and a radio host second.
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I can't listen to it, without having to click "play" every few seconds, it keeps pausing
I'll have to wait for a tube....
AND, dang it, I wish he would not file an appeal to get the judge to rule on the case quickly. dang it. he brought that up again.
I'll have to wait for a tube....
AND, dang it, I wish he would not file an appeal to get the judge to rule on the case quickly. dang it. he brought that up again.
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TheKnowBuddies
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She doesn't know when to NOT interrupt and her mic is mush. Telephone is clearer, she should call into her own show.
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I know I cut the feed off, she was getting on my nerves a little bit. There's a time and a place. The topic was the lawsuit, not convert the newt guy by telling him candidate is part of the problem, no matter how right you may be.
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I know...I put in my two cents that the radio show host/gingrich supporter was not the enemy in this case, in fact he is an ally. Some moron started yelling out NEOCON GLOBALIST SHILL, and the radio show host was in the chatroom.
The radio show host presented himself very well and mature. I consider that battle Gingrich-1, Paul supporters-0
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Security was hired by the RNC at the venues where violence occurred, a "hired hand" is an agent doing his masters bidding.
In the venues where ballots were shuffled off site once again it was a "hired hand" doing the shuffling.
Even if "names" aren't known pictures and or video are on hand for every claim.
If, as you claim, you have some knowledge in the law then certainly you understand terms like "agent" and "conspiracy"...it need not be proven that every member of a conspiracy knew the actions of others for them to be guilty of the entire conspiracy.
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Sometimes we are our own worst enemies. Sometimes trolls pretend to be us and do that. I would think we wouldn't want to do it to ourselves.
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I listened to Mr. Gilbert on the way home this evening.
What I can't figure out is his motive.
I can't imagine anyone with legal training doing what he is doing. Getting dismissed for failure to plead any discernible factual claims is unusual. I would be humiliated.
Based on what I heard tonight, he is affirmatively misrepresenting Judge Carter's decision. The judge has flat-out rejected his theory on the Voting Rights Act. I sense considerable frustration from the bench. And, the new complaint, without one fact, will (by my estimation) exceed Judge Carter's remaining patience.
Is all this for attention? Publicity? I can't discern a financial motive. Puzzling.
What I can't figure out is his motive.
I can't imagine anyone with legal training doing what he is doing. Getting dismissed for failure to plead any discernible factual claims is unusual. I would be humiliated.
Based on what I heard tonight, he is affirmatively misrepresenting Judge Carter's decision. The judge has flat-out rejected his theory on the Voting Rights Act. I sense considerable frustration from the bench. And, the new complaint, without one fact, will (by my estimation) exceed Judge Carter's remaining patience.
Is all this for attention? Publicity? I can't discern a financial motive. Puzzling.
Steve I'm one of your biggest fans on here, can you please point us it he right direction on how the Fk we can win this thing please. Be short and sweet but outline this thing for us and help us bring it home without you getting in trouble.. Please man!!
Super Steve to the rescue?
Get real. This guy doesn't want to help. He's wasting everyone's time with his posts. For all you know, he could be a paralegal for the RNC's team. He's already said in so many words that he's involved in the case in some form.
Gilbert is moving forward with the case how he sees fit and no one here is going to change that. Time to continue gathering info on the misconduct and leave the armchair quarterbacking (lawyering?) alone.
Nah man, I think you have Steve pegged wrong, I think this guy is the truth and wants to help but can't for whatever reason... I think if he did help us , it would be a slam dunk win. Gilbert is weird man it's as if he thinks he knows everything and doesn't want any input from anyone. It's now or never if they dismiss this amendment it's a done deal!!
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this is a poster child for an unhelpful post. Do you know where the vent is? Because I was here for years before I did, but you can truly vent your frustration there, and more, people who agree with you will come and happily keep you company: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?276-The-Vent
Your prior post was actually helpful though negative. this one had nothing helpful about it.
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lol steve is only here to backup his buddy lawdiddy, who are only here to state their discontent for the lawsuit, not support it in anyway.
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I hope so. I don't know. I wonder if a motion to reconsider a dismissal (I'm not sure that is the right term) would be considered if supported by a compliant complaint. And in that case, possibly a different attorney. Or even a different location. I'm not wishing Gilbert ill, his is the suit we have, but part of my worry is that if it gets dismissed our delegates are back to having no one. What he filed isn't my daydream of a lawsuit, but no one else is doing anything. And the thing about keeping the judge and going in for a motion to reconsider (or whatever it is) if we can would be the judge DOES see the act as applying and did hear the attorney say they could break their own rules or change them unilaterally whenever they wanted to. My goal would be to expose fraud, seat delegates fraudulently challenged or prevented from becoming delegates, and make them follow the rules.
I know it is a little different than what Gilbert is going for now.
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Thank You - Is there a parrot in the room.
BTW - I was able to ask RC via chat: : Mr Gilbert, Does actual harm to Plaintiffs need to be
proven to be granted "Guidence and Relief"? Thank You -
TheKnowBuddies
I was called a troll for asking, a caller came to the rescue and read the question on my behalf.
Usually I'm good at pegging the aholes that are just trolling, for some reason I really feel like Steve is not a guy trolling. I really think he can help us win the case. HOWEVER im human and I have been wrong before... I just don't think I'm wrong and I think Steve knows what he is talking about . I also think he can give clues and tips and lay it out for us on how to easily win this, but if he don't, I guess he is a useless Fk and I was wrong about him! But again I don't think that's the case. Time will tell
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I don't need to judge him. My gut tells me he is kinda reluctant but not certain on this, but truly unable to help.. But he could also be a troll, he hasn't actually done anything that would rule that out for me. My concern is that this thread be constructive, though. Not even just talking about trolls.
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For declaratory relief you have to claim actual harm WILL happen and reason why declaratory relief is needed so that will not happen. Obviously it hasn't happened yet, typically. Here some of it has happened.
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