MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT: Lawyers for Ron Paul Lawsuit NOTE: Having the lawsuit not up 4 debate

RonRules said:
IV. Disposition

For the foregoing reasons, the Court GRANTS Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss.
However, the Court dismisses WITHOUT PREJUDICE. The Court will afford Plaintiffs a third and final opportunity to attempt to sufficiently plead a violation of Section 1971(b) of the Voting Rights Act. See Schreiber Distributing Co. v. Serv-Well Furniture Co., 806 F.2d 1393, 1401 (9th Cir. 1986). Because the Court grants Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss, the Court also DENIES Plaintiffs’ Ex Parte Application to Expedite Trial [16].
Plaintiffs shall file an amended complaint, if at all, on or before August 20, 2012.
DATED: August 7, 2012
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DAVID O. CARTER
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
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there is the huge problem. This next complaint needs to be good we don't want a motion to dismiss WITH prejudice which would mean they couldn't bring suit again . When I was doing my own 'conspiracy think' on this my concern was that the case wouldn't be thrown away. I got over that because our delegates ARE doing it, and because no one else seems to be planning to do anything else.
 
I think this is a great opportunity. The judge basically tells us step by step what needs to be added. A dismissal and leave to amend is a great thing.

The judge clearly sees this is a worthwhile case and must have worked till 1 or 2 AM to prepare this ruling.

We're on!
 
Ok,so they dismissed the case we lost fkn wonderful!!!! They are all in on it!!! Judges too!!!! My wife works in a court house very very corrupt!!!! The saying goes its not what you know it's who you know!!! Thats what they go by in the courthouses!!
 
RonRules said:
I think this is a great opportunity. The judge basically tells us step by step what needs to be added. A dismissal and leave to amend is a great thing.

The judge clearly sees this is a worthwhile case and must have worked till 1 or 2 AM to prepare this ruling.

We're on!
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I agree that the judge put a lot of himself into this. I hope we can capitalize on it.
 
rb3b3 said:
Ok,so they dismissed the case we lost fkn wonderful!!!! They are all in on it!!! Judges too!!!! My wife works in a court house very very corrupt!!!! The saying goes its not what you know it's who you know!!! Thats what they go by in the courthouses!!
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It is not over.

losinglife said:
stupid legal speak..... someone describe wtf he response was and were to go further in plain english.
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Plaintiffs (Ron Paul delegates) shall file an amended complaint with specifics (who, what, where, when, how;) and refile case. It has to be done in less than 13 days.

That is it as short as possible.


Edit:
Can someone put this in one google document so it is not cut into pieces? I am very interested in this and would like to study it a bit further.

Edit 2:
Dont panic I got the towel. It is not over it, is not done, it is maybe begining of the end but it is not over.

Edit 3:
@sailingaway: Yea but for final and last complaint judge pretty clearly wrote what he needs, where improvements are needed and what to add im final complaint...

Edit 4:
Someone ask R. Gilbert what he needs and what he needs to get all information and ask it fast. There is not much time!

Edit 5:
If people here want to help there needs to be clear plan how and who and when...
 
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rb3b3 said:
Ok,so they dismissed the case we lost fkn wonderful!!!! They are all in on it!!! Judges too!!!! My wife works in a court house very very corrupt!!!! The saying goes its not what you know it's who you know!!! Thats what they go by in the courthouses!!
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Huh?
 
Barrex said:
Plaintiffs (Ron Paul delegates) shall file an amended complaint with specifics (who, what, where, when, how;) and refile case. It has to be done in less than 13 days.

That is it as short as possible.
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Barrex, can you make heads or tails out of what the judgment reads? It appears as though he's giving hints of case law that might be used, is that true?
 
Barrex said:
It is not over.



Plaintiffs (Ron Paul delegates) shall file an amended complaint with specifics (who, what, where, when, how;) and refile case. It has to be done in less than 13 days.

That is it as short as possible.
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where do you see the 13 days? I missed that.
 
RonRules said:
I think this is a great opportunity. The judge basically tells us step by step what needs to be added. A dismissal and leave to amend is a great thing.

The judge clearly sees this is a worthwhile case and must have worked till 1 or 2 AM to prepare this ruling.

We're on!
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My understanding as well..........(only skimmed ruling)
 
lawdida said:
Well, it's a good thing Gilbert called the Massachusetts folk "traitors" and their leader a "coward." Otherwise he still might have a chance.

Oh, and the other day Evan Kenney (18-year-old who was removed for not signing the affidavit) tweeted a screenshot of a facebook post that came from Gilbert's account. See here:

https://twitter.com/EvanKenney/status/230872801098231808

There's probably a really good chance the Judge is going to see it as well.
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and your point is?

He shouldn't have said that to the MA delegates, but I don't see how that helps write the complaint.
 
ClydeCoulter said:
What does this mean? "the Court also DENIES Plaintiffs' Ex Parte Application to Expedite Trial"
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In plain English the judge told Gilbert he needs to file coherent pleadings based on current law by Aug. 20th, he can ASK that the court expedite and potential hearings in the future but THIS motion is denied.

He didn't throw Gilbert out on his ear, however "AS PLEAD" we have no standing.
 
I suggest again that we do a proper hierarchical document like a Wiki that can be group edited. Not fully public, but with membership such as DP and RPF long time forum members.
 
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