MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT: Lawyers for Ron Paul Lawsuit NOTE: Having the lawsuit not up 4 debate

WOW, Can we start a new thread for negativity? The "LFRP SUCKS" Thread so some can bitch there?
The lawyer got a hearing in front of the judge, let's HELP him. He's got the judges ear, let put facts into it.
 
tod evans said:
Facts in court are only fact with documentation.......Testimony is just that.

Broken bones and affidavits will carry much more weight than speculative analysis of vote tally's.

Video that isn't subject to interpretation is good as gold.

If the lawyer is getting his "facts" as I've read them on the forum it's going to be a hard row to hoe..

(I think that's what you're talking about with myths?)
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that and tweets.

They are an equally mixed bag.

hence the suggestion we try to pull together verifiable facts.
 
eleganz said:
Let's just create a new sticky thread where we can compile information where one poster handles the main post for final factual accurate evidence. When we're finished, we can link to Gilbert...another grassroots victory?
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GREAT idea. Informational only. Anything else should be deleted so as not to clog up the thread with whiny bullshit :)
 
kathy88 said:
GREAT idea. Informational only. Anything else should be deleted so as not to clog up the thread with whiny bullshit :)
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good idea. I'll make my post on LA into a thread for other threads and circumstances to be added, and add the name of forum members we think can substantiate it, so we can double check our details. I'll just put the post up now as is and refine it later. Torchbearer did say it was accurate and he was willing to testify (so presumably would have no problem signing an affidavit).
 
sailingaway said:
that and tweets.

They are an equally mixed bag.

hence the suggestion we try to pull together verifiable facts.
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I can't be of any help, I'm preparing for a custody hearing of my own right now.

I'd be happy to chime in on what I find confusing if you'd like...

(If I can "get-it" a judge probably can too.)
 
ClydeCoulter said:
WOW, Can we start a new thread for negativity? The "LFRP SUCKS" Thread so some can bitch there?
The lawyer got a hearing in front of the judge, let's HELP him. He's got the judges ear, let put facts into it.
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Yes I second that. Just like the Vote Flipping threads were split up in to Fraud/No Fraud versions, we should do the same here. That was very effective and productive.

Need 2 threads:

1) How to help Lawyers for Ron Paul win the case and help Ron win the nomination.

2) How to make fun of and ridicule LFRP.
 
sailingaway said:
good idea. I'll make my post on LA into a thread for other threads and circumstances to be added, and add the name of forum members we think can substantiate it, so we can double check our details. I'll just put the post up now as is and refine it later. Torchbearer did say it was accurate and he was willing to testify (so presumably would have no problem signing an affidavit).
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Great! let's do it! we can then link it to grassroots of other states and have them come up with their official story. I highly doubt we're going to be able to produce the evidence needed for all 50 states..correct?

By the way, lawdida, here is your chance to get the truth out about MA. You have your remedy now.
 
lawdida said:
Hey, it's not like I'm merely calling him a traitor or nut and call it a day. I even try to avoid speculation.

You may not like my criticism of him but I try to stick with reason and evidence that can be verified.
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But it's just so much smoke at the moment that everyone is trying to clear the way for getting facts to the man :)
 
lerua1 said:
Ladies and Gentlemen, there are millions of freedom-liberty minded people in Europe and elsewhere, but we cann”t intervine in your battle, not yet, maybe later, only God knows, y hope we”ll have the opportunity, till then you have to fight on your own. You”ll lose or winn this war on one battlefield; REP.Party. The only thing that matters is THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE AND CAN BRING INTO. DON”T GIVE UP; THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE YOU ARE WATCHING FROM OUTSIDE; YOU ARE NOT ALONE; STAY BEHIND RON PAUL AND NOBODY ELSE SHOULD BE THE NOMENEE IN TAMPA.

Sincerly yours
aurel barber
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welcome to the forums!
 
lawdida said:
He is the only one willing to do it for free. With all the attorneys out there, and this being a high profile issue, it is a bad sign for the success of the case that Gilbert’s the only volunteer.

Since everyone here knows other attorneys could have worked on the case if someone would was willing to pay them, we know that Gilbert wasn’t the only choice. Yet, he’s granted a lot of latitude considering his shoddy work product and unprofessional deportment.

Why isn’t this latitude given to Jesse, Rand, and others? Why just Gilbert? It is because he’s crazy and you feel bad? Or is it because he acts out your legal rage fantasies and promises to storm the convention with armed federal marshals?

In all honesty, I try to criticize him at every point when he’s taken seriously. However, as a performance artist, I think he’s really funny.
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You are miscontruing how this lawsuit happened. It's not like people went out looking for a lawyer and nobody wanted to take the case.

The Ron Paul campaign should have initiated legal action long ago because of all the cheating in primaries, and didn't.

This lawyer stepped forward and said "Damn it, if nobody is going to do anything, I'm going to do something."

He took initiative, and he is working for free, because he believes in this cause, and he believes in Liberty.

He may tend to be very dramatic, and say dramatic things, and he may not be the most prim and proper in his comportment, but who the hell are you to criticize him? I watched him in court with my own eyes and I can tell you his performance was neither shoddy, nor unprofessional. This guy kicked the polished GOP attorney's butt in court as far as I'm concerned. I will be surprised if the judge grants the motion to dismiss.

Now, does the complaint need more specificity? Yes. Why didn't it to begin with? I don't know. Maybe because this guy had hundreds of affidavits to sort through in a matter of a few weeks, and had very little time, and therefore it just wasn't humanly possible to boil everything down into specifics for over 50 states and US territories with multiple stories (affidavits) from each one? Gee.

If you happen to know Superman, and he has a law degree, and you can get him to take this case pro bono, then go get him. Otherwise, don't criticize when you have zero knowledge of what kind of lawyer Gilbert is. I saw him in court and he argued a good case. He dismantled the GOP lawyer's arguments very skillfully. You can say whatever you want, but just be aware you are making stuff up and making assumptions, not speaking from direct experience.

By the way, how much is Romney's campaign paying you to spread this negativity?
 
tod evans said:
If this is written on an official letterhead it's possible it could be used.
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I posted what we have including their letter in that new thread, I am hoping Chris Dixon who is a delegate who posted it here will give more details to clean it up.

his weekend, the RNC, via Maine Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster offered a "compromise"... take a look:

1. A majority of the delegates sign a statement agreeing that, if Ron Paul is not on the ballot, they will vote at the Convention for Mitt Romney.

2. Instead of Brent Tweed, Charlie Webster or Paul LePage would serve as the spokesperson for the delegation and announce the votes cast for president. That spokesperson would also handle all media on behalf of the Maine delegation.

3. There will be nothing negative said about Mitt Romney or positive said about Obama (especially to media).

4. The Delegation will be admitted to the Convention, and to all committee assignments, without barrier.

5. The Contest brought by Jan Staples and Peter Cianchette will be withdrawn.
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Note that their agreement to vote for Romney if Ron isnt on the ballot gives INCENTIVE to the credentials committee to bar Ron's delegates elsewhere.
 
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