MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT: Lawyers for Ron Paul Lawsuit NOTE: Having the lawsuit not up 4 debate
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Meaning, if they are bound by statute, they should comply with that statute.
You got it.
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I haven't yet seen this answered, but what is their plan B? This attorney is sooo sure that they will win....but what if they don't? Or what if the case IS dismissed? They will have essentially given the Romeny campaign "just cause" to decertify hundreds of liberty delegates who were bound to vote for Romney. Has this even been brought up?
they are only seeking guidance. where there is no guidance then plan b would be to go on an abstain on first ballot. a whole lot of abstentions will not get romeny 1144. no? then sarah palin could team up with rand paul and chop romney.
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Seeking guidance by signing on as plaintiffs to participate in a lawsuit that is seeking to unbind them from voting for the candidate they are bound to? Looks like just the type of "just cause" they are looking for to decertify these delegates. Your plan B would not even see the light of day if these delegates are replaced.
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What's actually hilarious is that clearly the RNC lawyers did not read the original complaint.
In short, as clearly stated by Lawer for Ron Paul Gilbert: "The issue of fraud has no relevance
whatsoever". (See page 13, line 24 of document OPPOSITION_TO_MOTION_TO_DISMISS.pdf)
The RNC lawyers responded in panic thinking the complaint alleged fraud. They should have just read the complaint and responded to only the argument of law regarding the ability for a delegate to vote his/her conscience.
You can see how totally confident Gilbert is in writing the Opposition to motion, by quoting the complaint and not wavering a bit. I like what I'm seeing.
If Gilbert gets the expected right answer from the judge (the filing was just a question, not a claim of fraud), I bet the next step will be to file a huge fraud lawsuit, preferably before Aug. 26. Three days before the convention would be ideal. I know he's got a lot of data to do it with.
In short, as clearly stated by Lawer for Ron Paul Gilbert: "The issue of fraud has no relevance
whatsoever". (See page 13, line 24 of document OPPOSITION_TO_MOTION_TO_DISMISS.pdf)
The RNC lawyers responded in panic thinking the complaint alleged fraud. They should have just read the complaint and responded to only the argument of law regarding the ability for a delegate to vote his/her conscience.
You can see how totally confident Gilbert is in writing the Opposition to motion, by quoting the complaint and not wavering a bit. I like what I'm seeing.
If Gilbert gets the expected right answer from the judge (the filing was just a question, not a claim of fraud), I bet the next step will be to file a huge fraud lawsuit, preferably before Aug. 26. Three days before the convention would be ideal. I know he's got a lot of data to do it with.
Well, then use plan c. The economy just tanked, really, I just finished listening to Bernanke, and the prospects are grim really, we are slipping quite quickly towards a major depression. That's because new entrants into the job market will find nothing, nothing, nothing.
Plan c would seek to disenfranchise Romney of his delegates since he won his primaries based on the rosy pictures Bernanke painted in December and January. Clearly everything Romney promised as the entrepreneur guru in chief is hogwash right now. All his policies in the debates are now clearly invalid. There is no truthful information right now on how Romney would do if he inherits this Bush/Obama debacle. The Romney that ran in the primaries is a ghost for the new economic reality for our country. Any delegate that does not considers that reality before voting would be a fool. Freedom to vote their conscience.
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Lol, whatever youre smoking, pass some of that over here!!
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Then we're no better or worse off then we are today....
Just like the nomination, people do need to realize that in this corrupt system, things might not work out like we want for them to, even if we're completely right.
Most of us here have realized what kind of long odds we're working against in this campaign. But the stakes are too big not to try, and you'll never know until you try. That's really all you can do...
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Yeah but they can't enforce state law in another state. Simple legal principle regarding how states work in this country. See my previous post. I really think this line of stuff is intimidation that can't be enforced. Scare tactic. How is Wyoming going to enforce WY law for conduct in Florida???
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I'm interested in seeing whether or not the states would go after them for breach of contract. I doubt the judge would, or even could, order them to comply with state laws, but probably would recommend that they do, and leave it up to each delegate to decide for his/herself.
He did jump on the fact that they tried to offer a defense against the fraud by saying this is a federal question case, but if the fraud is irrelevant, how can he argue that the remedies are needed?
Defense cites this case : N.Y. State Board of Elections v. Lopez Torres, 552 U.S. 196, 201 (2008)
I think it's their strongest argument. And if the judge doesn't rule in favor of the plaintiffs, or otherwise deems the above cited case relevant, the RNC can then use it to justify the unseating of any RNC delegate.
You keep repeating this and now I am convinced. Courage and valor they will need. They need to buy a bottle of it at Walgreens. A whole lot of abstentions and Romney will get to 1143 and not one more. People will begin the celebration and the day will be called a holiday.
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Although states have unlimited resources to waste, the case would unravel rather quickly since Romney changes his views every four hours. Now he buried his income tax return with Obama's birth certificate and college transcripts. When Romney ran in the primaries he promised to disclose his income tax return. Voters who voted for Romney then voted for a ghost. Primary results are no longer valid.
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Does anyone knows anything about this:
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USA_Patriot_Press @USA_Free_Press @tweetAmiracle A Plaintiff was beaten last night by one of Romney's people. Medical casre is required,. I will dm .
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What? Any news on how they are?
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