MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT: Lawyers for Ron Paul Lawsuit NOTE: Having the lawsuit not up 4 debate

[SteveT1736]

sailingaway --

The reference to "Delegates" is not to party delegates. It is talking about Delegates from the U.S. Territories being elected to Congress.

 

[sailingaway]

sailingaway --

The reference to "Delegates" is not to party delegates. It is talking about Delegates from the U.S. Territories being elected to Congress.

thanks, I didn't read that part of the statute so I don't know. I do agree with Clyde that he argues the law on that point, though, right or wrong.

So it boils down to do we want to get something else in in case the court will look at it and in case this isn't enough for the court?

 

[lawdida]

I don't know.

 

[TheKnowBuddies]

Quote Originally Posted by libertylastchance
"As much as everyone want this to be considered a "general", "federal" election no where is it stated that a National convention is a federal election.. if so can someone post that"

With no research, just a guess, could it be a National Convention for the purposes to elect a Nominee to the National General Election for the Federal Offices of the President and Vice President of the United States.

 

[sailingaway]

With no research, just a guess, could it be a National Convention for the purposes to elect a Nominee to the National General Election for the Federal Offices of the President and Vice President of the United States.

sounds like it fits. And +rep and welcome to the forums!

By the way, apparently Santorum and Bachmann supporters don't want to be left out in the cold now.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/conservative-group-launches-dump-romney-campaign

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Okay, we have people saying "it's all a failure and no good".
Anyone in that crowd want to chime in on what the judge did want, other than non-specific "who did what when to who".
Like actually read his judgement and make specific comments on the things he alluded to in other cases such as Lopez?

 

[ClydeCoulter]

With no research, just a guess, could it be a National Convention for the purposes to elect a Nominee to the National General Election for the Federal Offices of the President and Vice President of the United States.

Yes.

 

[RonRules]

Quote Originally Posted by libertylastchance
"As much as everyone want this to be considered a "general", "federal" election no where is it stated that a National convention is a federal election.. if so can someone post that"

That's the question in front of the judge now. It's never been asked before I guess.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

sounds like it fits. And +rep and welcome to the forums!

By the way, apparently Santorum and Bachmann supporters don't want to be left out in the cold now.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/conservative-group-launches-dump-romney-campaign

Oh, crap, this could get interesting

 

[RonRules]

I sent you a PM.

La-di-da conspiring with SteveT1736!

The next few posts will be interesting.

 

[CPUd]

As much as everyone want this to be considered a "general", "federal" election no where is it stated that a National convention is a federal election.. if so can someone post that

I don't really go for gilbert spin, but he said the judge agreed that it was possible that a national convention was a federal election. Something to that effect may be in the judge's order granting the motion to dismiss. otherwise, it would be in the transcript from Aug 6.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

You can find Gilberts argument about the RNC being a federal election starting on page 27 (or 25 if using the original page number at the bottom) line 22 of the filing at https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D150257_4054156_6414717

 

[JK/SEA]

That's the question in front of the judge now. It's never been asked before I guess.

They are intertwined. No?

 

[devil21]

Nobody here is going to change Gilbert's strategy so I don't see the point in throwing our own monkey wrenches into the process.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

They are intertwined. No?

Intertwined, yep, this stuff looks worse than wad of cords in the game machine controller cabinet.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Nobody here is going to change Gilbert's strategy so I don't see the point in throwing our own monkey wrenches into the process.

Nope, so now it will be interesting to see the judges reaction to this filing.

edit: we still do want to continue getting all the fraud evidence collected, collated and in a good common format, no?

 

[sailingaway]

Nope, so now it will be interesting to see the judges reaction to this filing.

edit: we still do want to continue getting all the fraud evidence collected, collated and in a good common format, no?

yes.

 

[CPUd]

Nobody here is going to change Gilbert's strategy so I don't see the point in throwing our own monkey wrenches into the process.

What I'm wondering is why did they go to all the trouble to get affidavits from delegates, then not use them?

He has mentioned filing an Appellate Writ, perhaps the strategy all along was to get it to Appeals Court.

 

[devil21]

Of course. Continuing with the evidence gathering should continue. At the very least it's a central repository of information if the RICO side of this miraculously moves forward at a later date. It also helps future delegates to know what kind of tricks may be pulled on them in the future. Never fail to record history!

What I'm wondering is why did they go to all the trouble to get affidavits from delegates, then not use them?

He has mentioned filing an Appellate Writ, perhaps the strategy all along was to get it to Appeals Court.

Were these affidavits submitted to the court at all? I don't know. Don't forget that the judge has already read about much of the misconduct undertaken. He can't rule on that at this point, legally, but he's not a robot with an erasable ROM that will forget everything he's read so far. He's just handcuffed on how he can legally rule on it without it being blatantly overturned on appeal.

 

[lawdida]

I don't know.