Mainstream media in Phoenix, must see!

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[Matt Salla]

Maybe find out what issues are important first...

THANK YOU PHOENIX! Keep doing what you are doing. Ron Paul needs all the help.

These are suggestions for people who want to conform. It isn't a bad thing to run this campaign like a traditional one as long as the grassroot support stays strong. For the people who disagree, do what you feel helps the best.

If we are to use specific issues to garner support, we should call people in the local area and poll them. This way we can figure out what the majority of people are truly worried about and focus on that message. We can start accumulating data and adjust the campaign to hit on issues that people feel are important.

It is a good idea to use messages that appeal to most people. Saying Ron Paul is Pro-Life will turn off pro-choice people. Someone I know almost dismissed him entirely over this one issue. If we have a message that says 'abortion shouldn't be used as birth control', all sorts of people will agree with that. That is what we want, people agreeing with our message.

But if you poll your area and 85% are pro-life, then a pro-life message would probably be best...

 

[hopeforamerica]

I really like and appreciate the effort, but I humbly request that you make signs that will look more appealing to all people. You must know what some people will see those signs and think 'fringe'

Putting the signs in different locations is good, but please do consider making them cleaner, more professional looking.

Thanks.

Okay Stealth, I'll get right on that. Wait, better yet, why don't you get right on that

 

[Thunderbolt]

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[Thunderbolt]

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[Ozwest]

HEY THUNDERBOLT... At least a puppy stops whining when it grows up. GIVE IT A REST!!!

 

[Stealth4]

Okay Stealth, I'll get right on that. Wait, better yet, why don't you get right on that

I dont live in Phoenix or I would get right on that!

 

[Ozwest]

Sounds like the same old shit but from a different asshole.

 

[Bob Cochran]

Surely there is a place for both grassroots efforts as well as a traditional and organized campaign. It is the grassroots efforts that launched Ron Paul to where the campaign is today.

I say good work, Phoenix.

I'm with you.

All this hand-wringing over the signs looking not-so-nice is silly. Get over what you cannot control, and go out and do something positive for Ron Paul's campaign. If you insist on staying planted in front of the computer, at least get out your bank card and donate to his campaign.

 

[Bob Cochran]

I just came from Phoenix and the place looks terrible with those signs all over the place. It looks like what we used to call "tagging". You may get a few curious taggers who want to know about the signs and they may like Ron Paul, but I am a Ron Paul supporter and I was turned off.

Stop fretting over something that you CANNOT CONTROL. It's a waste of time and energy.

 

[Stealth4]

Stop fretting over something that you CANNOT CONTROL. It's a waste of time and energy.

Its not about control, its about constructive criticism (which I wrote in a friendly way). Why are you afraid of this constructive criticism?

Yes, were on the same team, but cant we discuss how we might do better?

 

[hopeforamerica]

Thunderbolt,

You keep posting that same picture. Don't you realize that those people had to have those made for big $$. I had one of those made for my business and it cost about $30. Times that by 100 or 200 per week. Want to fork over the $$. Thought not.

As for the 4:30 am start time. We had to beat foot traffic from the students. Otherwise you would be in there way. Much more respectful don't you think?

Your constant belittling of our efforts will not stop the process. So just go make your town with pretty and expensive signs. Mmmkay?

 

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[Ozwest]

Thunderbolt. Some day you will find yourself... and wish you hadn't.

 

[acstichter]

Thunderbolt's vote is in. He dislikes black colored signs and signs with issues on them. Thanks. Next.

The same people in Phx designed the white and yellow banners in your picture. There are hundreds of them up. Try not to piss Phx sign makers off and just offer your opinion. You don't control them, so try being friendly in hope of influencing their next sign making design.

These signs have been shipped out across the country. It's a frickin factory here, don't shit on it. Tell you what, give us a simple stencil design and maybe we'll make it. How bout that? Draw it up in paint or something. I'll sincerely consider turning my backyard into a sign making factory and payroll the whole thing. Give me a good design.

And how arrogant of you to say only homeowners can respond. Like they are the only people who care how their community looks. Are you dumb or out of touch? Plus, 90% of these signs in Phx are on abandoned chainlink fence properties or active construction fences. If there is not a property owner around to cut the thing down, how much pride is there in the neighborhood anyways?

And do you really know much about politics? Do you know how Revolutionary Ron Paul is? There are a dozen reasons why a timid person might skip out on voting for him. We need to recruit strong minded people. People who can be shown the light. Only like 7% vote in primaries. These signs are going towards the disillusioned and the freethinkers. People willing to participate in the Revolution.

 

[Dinomyte]

This post proves exactly what I have been saying. 1. You are not willing to learn anything. 2. You pay no attention to facts: this is the first time I ever posted those pics. 3. One of the pics in the nice groups was homemade too. 4. You have never answered the question over and over of "what if this is hurting Ron Paul?" 5. Children don't care about consequences, they just do what they want to do and ignore every one else. 6. You are acting like a child. (In case you didn't read that properly, I didn't say you were a child, I said you were acting like one.) 7. We are all on the same team. 8. There is such a thing as negative publicity or publicity which does not help. and 9. According to ASU chalking the campus is considered vandalism and they do not appreciate it at all. They consider it graffiti and it is not allowed on campus. You can call 480-965-3406 and ask yourself if you want, and clearly you didn't do that ahead of time. But then you don't seem to care whether or not you piss off a lot of people and hurt those who have been trying to do a lot of work with the event services folks at ASU and have built up goodwill.

1, 2, 3) I'm sure that they're willing to learn, but it's hard to take advice from someone who's being very aggressive with his criticism. Yes, they could make the signs more professional looking, but at the moment Phx's goals are to get Ron Paul's name out to the general public as much as possible.

They are doing an awesome job and it shouldn't be put down in any way. And yes, YOU ARE PUTTING THEM DOWN.

There are better ways to give constructive criticism than the way you've been doing things. Maybe start with a "Great effort guys. In the future, I'd like to suggest putting out more polished/professional signs after your name recognition blitz is done with, that way we can start bringing in more of the "conformed" voters of Phoenix. An example of such signs can be seen in this picture here.. etc"

Telling them that their signs look horrible (which they don't!) is not the way to get someone to agree with your points.

4) I'm sure that they in no way want to hurt Ron Paul's chances to the White House one bit, and being passionate about your candidate is a great thing to bring to a campaign. They're not being overly zealous in my opinion, and if the ASU was truly considered to be vandalism by the school then they'll make sure to avoid such mistakes in the future. Mistakes can be made by people as long as one learns from them.

5) Name calling doesn't help anyone.

6) Adults can act ridiculously stubborn as well... it's time to step back and maybe look over your posts to see if you could have written them with a bit more tact

7) Then act like a teammate and be more supportive.

8) Thinking that those signs are going to bring a hugely negative impact is really reaching...

9) Again, you could have just stated, "It was really cool what you guys did in the ASU, but I'd recommend giving them a call at ***-***-**** next time to make sure that you're not stepping on any toes. Some big wigs up there were apparently not too happy about it. Let's make sure to do things right and be respectful"


^^^^ that's my long reply to you.

Short reply, please try to be more considerate and think about the time and effort spent by those in Phoenix before you start giving your advice. No one likes a back seat driver.

Edit: What the heck is a bad seat driver???.. changed to proper phrase.

 

[constituent]

here, i've got the solution for everyone...

Black and Red...






Guiliani RevfartLution banners....

yea, that'll do it.

thunderbolt... get on it quick. That way everyone will blame
Rudy for their declining property value...

friggin' brilliant (and i'm the dumbass around here)

you fella's must be sleeping on the job.

 

[Thunderbolt]

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