MAINE DAY 2 UPDATES HERE Please

[FlipObamney]

No he was not on the list, I voted yesterday. Yes, he is the one of 3.

Yes he was, and so am I.

I have a picture of the results from today and LePage was the first on the list.

 

[speciallyblend]

Yes, and I'm telling you how states get around it by having at large delegates so that their state is not required to vote as a unit.



Ya I agree with this, but a lot of rules are interpreted based on historical precedent so if this was considered a legitimate way to get around the unit rule in the past, then it probably still is today if that is the case.[/QUOTE


bottom line a delegate voter can abstain period so all. if a voter is a romney supporter they will vote if ron paul they will abstain. bottom line it goes brokered under 1144 and people will vote who they vote for. in the end that is what matter under 1144 the rest is arguing over nothing unless romney gets 1144, as votes happen delegates are released. no point arguing over bound or unbound unless you think romney is at 1144 first vote after that all the arguing is released as votes are unbound by voting. yes some votes are unbound later then others but the bottom line is under 1144 which seems like it will happen. so you folks are arguing over something that will already happen. they will come unblund eventually romney will not get 1144.

you guys are chasing your tails over the bound/unbound. if romney doesn't get 1144 ,then they will come unbound as the votes occur depending on when they do. there will be no way for romney to get 1144 after the first vote.

 

[LibertyIn08]

Yes, and I'm telling you how states get around it by having at large delegates so that their state is not required to vote as a unit.



Ya I agree with this, but a lot of rules are interpreted based on historical precedent so if this was considered a legitimate way to get around the unit rule in the past, then it probably still is today if that is the case.[/QUOTE


bottom line a delegate voter can abstain period so all. if a voter is a romney supporter they will vote if ron paul they will abstain. bottom line it goes brokered under 1144 and people will vote who they vote for. in the end that is what matter under 1144 the rest is arguing over nothing unless romney gets 1144, as votes happen delegates are released. no point arguing over bound or unbound unless you think romney is at 1144 first vote after that all the arguing is released as votes are unbound by voting. yes some votes are unblund later then others but the bottom line is under 1144 which seems like it will happen. so you folks are arguing over something that will already happen. they will come unblund eventually romney will not get 1144.

If there is abstention does the threshold for a majority lower? Since they're effectively nonvoting members that's often how it work in parliamentary procedure.

 

[motomech10]

Yes he is on the list of winners, but he was not on the ballot yesterday.

 

[speciallyblend]

How ABOUT you all let the NEVADA and MAINE Delegates do what the NEVADA and MAINE Delegates will do. You can do what you want at YOUR states convention.

and how about we all concern ourselves with the fact if romney does not get 1144 then bound and unbound delegates become unbound as the votes happen, so folks should stop chasing their tales over bound or unbound. If we keep winning delegaTES THEN THERE WILL BE NO WAY ROMNEY gets 1144 that is what matters. bound or unbound after under 1144, they will eventually be released. If we continue to secure this amount of delegates. then binding will not even be an issue.

 

[FlipObamney]

Yes he was, and so am I.

I have a picture of the results from today and LePage was the first on the list.

Here is the pic of the real and fake slate from yesterday.

pic.twitter.com/N4eqmN6E

The governor was voted on yesterday. Not sure what you guys were doing yesterday.

 

[speciallyblend]

If there is abstention does the threshold for a majority lower? Since they're effectively nonvoting members that's often how it work in parliamentary procedure.

that is something they could fix possibly so we just have to pay attention to the rules committees. I assume if we are winning delegates we are also picking the national delegate committee spots. This is where the votes are tabbed, we have our folks on the colorado committee so i doubt all this paranoia is warranted unless we fail to secure this national delegation committee spots from the state to national. If we took them in colorado i have to assume we are taking them in states we are winning . we have the numbers we take those spots. this is what will make it very hard for them to unit votes like some folks are suggesting.

 

[neverseen]

and how about we all concern ourselves with the fact if romney does not get 1144 then bound and unbound delegates become unbound as the votes happen, so folks should stop chasing their tales over bound or unbound. If we keep winning delegaTES THEN THERE WILL BE NO WAY ROMNEY gets 1144 that is what matters. bound or unbound after under 1144, they will eventually be released. If we continue to secure this amount of delegates. then binding will not even be an issue.

Or we could concern ourselves about maine and start a new thread about delegates or reply to one of the hundreds of threads that are out there. You guys are bogging this down already with useless bickering. Let's keep this thread focused. Some of us are busy today and just want maine updates and not the whole delegate strategy.

 

[digitaldean]

Here is the pic of the real and fake slate from yesterday.

pic.twitter.com/N4eqmN6E

The governor was voted on yesterday. Not sure what you guys were doing yesterday.

Same was done in Colorado and Nevada yesterday. In Nevada it was spotted first then like 15-30 minutes later people in Maine started talking about it.

 

[TrishW]

and how about we all concern ourselves with the fact if Romney does not get 1144 then bound and unbound delegates become unbound as the votes happen, so folks should stop chasing their tales over bound or unbound. If we keep winning delegates THEN THERE WILL BE NO WAY ROMNEY gets 1144 that is what matters. bound or unbound after under 1144, they will eventually be released. If we continue to secure this amount of delegates. then binding will not even be an issue.

No I think we should do ALL we can. Whose to say what is enough? Let's not leave any scraps behind for the Romney hounds. They may turn around and bite you on your a--

 

[ProBlue33]

It's time for this song​

 

[KenInMontiMN]

I do believe the bound/unbound issue is very important going forward into the future. All state GOP orgs that bind their delegations should be getting that unraveled now, while the maximized numbers of liberty delegates are there to do it. I assume that means constitutional changes, and often those changes are in the hands of state GOP exec committee unless an odd-year state convention is called for that purpose.

 

[speciallyblend]

No I think we should do ALL we can. Whose to say what is enough? Let's not leave any scraps behind for the Romney hounds. They may turn around and bite you on your a--

i said nothing about securing delegates but you folks are chasing your tails over bound/unbound delegates. This only matters if romney is getting over 1144, from the numbers i see . It will not be possible but keep chasing after it is under 1144 on first vote unbinding happens to many bound so. i guess you can argue over unbinding them at state in maine if the numbers are there they will if not they won't there done.

 

[Savvy Jack]

10 pages of nothing....whats going on today?

 

[LibertyRevolution]

10 pages of nothing....whats going on today?

yes, what is going on?

 

[sailingaway]

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[speciallyblend]

I do believe the bound/unbound issue is very important going forward into the future. All state GOP orgs that bind their delegations should be getting that unraveled now, while the maximized numbers of liberty delegates are there to do it. I assume that means constitutional changes, and often those changes are in the hands of state GOP exec committee unless an odd-year state convention is called for that purpose.

it matters if mitt gets over 1144 on first vote but the numbers are not there as we keep winning delegates. so after the first vote bound delegates start to be released . I guess romney could get 1144 on first vote but highly unlikely now that we are winning votes. after first vote they naturally start becoming unbound. Are folks suggesting romney will get 1144 on first vote if so show me the math.

 

[speciallyblend]

10 pages of nothing....whats going on today?

sounds like we won 22 out of 25 in maine, also sounds like romney will not get 1144 on a first vote ,but if someone has math to show me he can please show me.

 

[ctiger2]

i said nothing about securing delegates but you folks are chasing your tails over bound/unbound delegates. This only matters if romney is getting over 1144, from the numbers i see . It will not be possible but keep chasing after it is under 1144 on first vote unbinding happens to many bound so. i guess you can argue over unbinding them at state in maine if the numbers are there they will if not they won't there done.

I guarantee at some point the media will say Romney has the needed 1144. GUARANTEED disinfo coming.

 

[sailingaway]

but I asked our guys there (Chris Dixon and Amanda) who are tweeting if it was correct and so far there is silence.