Maine Caucus Results Here

RonPauledbyYoutube said:
Can you please explain the process on how they assign the delegates. This is somewhat discouraging. Not fatal but certainly hurts.
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Delegates are elected at town caucuses. They do not have to vote for the winner of their towns straw poll and are able to vote for whoever they wish in the May convention. People run for the position, and in some cases get it uncontested, in some cases there is a second vote (seperate to the preference straw poll) which elects the delegates to their spots.

This is not discouraging at all, as all indications are that we will have a majority of these state delegates in the May convention, which will be able to award Ron Paul the 18 national delegates.
 
Rangeley said:
...What are you talking about? Again, we are winning the most state delegates, which is what determines who receives the national delegates. The Presidential Preference Straw Poll has no bearing on who receives the national delegates.
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I realize that, I know we are picking up delegates, where do you see "the most".
 
syborius said:
I realize that, I know we are picking up delegates, where do you see "the most".
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From all the people reporting the results from the caucuses they attended. There are tons of topics from people reporting in, including one from Portland, the largest city in state, where we won at least 30 of the 59 delegate spots. We have done even better in the smaller towns.
 
It's important to note that the delegates chosen at the caucuses are delegates to the State GOP convention this may. Delegates aren't assigned. They are elected by the people participating at the caucus.

In our caucus only two people from our town showed up to participate. Our town is eligible for 7 delegates. The two of us are automatically the Town Chair and Secretary and are delegates. We can also attempt to fill the open delegate positions from our town with like-minded people. The presidential preference poll is not related to the number of delegates or their distribution in any way. (In some caucus locations the preference poll results were used as a compromise but that was by choice, not by rule.)

Not everyone is interested in being a delegate. It costs money and takes a considerable amount of time. For much of the state there's a long drive and an overnight stay at a hotel involved as well. Therefore only the really dedicated (or the crazy) are interested in being delegates. I think the majority of RP supporters went into their caucuses knowing that they wanted to do whatever it took become a delegate to the state convention. This is primarily due to the excellent grassroots organizational effort here in Maine.

So while RP might not be winning the popularity contest, his supporters are dedicated enough and prepared in advance to work towards filling as many state delegation positions as possible. That's by far the most important thing to look for today though there won't be any "official" numbers available.
 
"So while RP might not be winning the popularity contest, his supporters are dedicated enough and prepared in advance to work towards filling as many state delegation positions as possible." ...

Thank you.
 
RufusTDoofus said:
I don't understand the Romney thing either. In our general area I haven't heard of any support for Romney. There's one Romney sign out in front of a big house near the Sugarloaf ski mountain. Other than that, nada.
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My first guess is that it's a reflexive vote against the liberal-ness of John McCain from those who don't know of Ron Paul.
 
ok, so how many of those delegates of romneys and mccains and RP's are RP supporters? That's what isn't so clear...
 
slacker921 said:
"So while RP might not be winning the popularity contest, his supporters are dedicated enough and prepared in advance to work towards filling as many state delegation positions as possible." ...

Thank you.
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Yes, which is great, I'm not complaining mind you---but Romney gets the headline!:mad:

Romney Wins Maine GOP Caucuses
By GLENN ADAMS,AP
Posted: 2008-02-02 22:48:39
Filed Under: Elections News
AUGUSTA, Maine (Feb. 2) - Mitt Romney coasted to a win in presidential preference voting by Maine Republicans on Saturday, claiming his third victory in a caucus state and fourth overall.


Now what I'm trying to figure out---is that 'win' a straw poll voted on by voters from Massachusetts? Are you allowed to vote in the caucuses from another state?
 
RonPauledbyYoutube said:
So why in this world would they spend money on these meaningless straw polls???

Gosh, these people have made a joke about electing Ron Paul as president!!!:mad:
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I don't get it either.

But the world thinks Romney won Maine going into super Tuesday.:mad:
 
Well, did we ever really think the press would make a big deal about it if Ron Paul won the straw poll, or give it any attention at all? If you had to choose between being in Romney's place or Paul's place for Maine, the one we are in now is certainly the better of the two outcomes as it actually has a substantive value, whereas the other situation would only have a "potential momentum" value... that you know would get nowhere with the lack of coverage.
 
We need to go to those remaining caucuses and hit them with tons of people canvassing. Those that were elected delegates to the state convention could help by canvassing as well as those that already caucused. We can still get this thing if we put our heads together! Yes, I know that the Super Bowl is tomorrow (but I heard that the game is on at 8 pm East Coast time) but tomorrow could be the day. Let's flood the caucuses and show them something they've never seen in their lives!
 
diesirae said:
But, the straw poll was aimed at the state delegates.

If we have a majority of the state delegates, why did they vote 80+% against us?
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What do you mean? While CNN and some others are calling the raw votes state delegates, this actually isnt the case. The way the caucuses worked is essentially a two part process. First, they hold the presidential preference straw poll, which is what is being reported to the media. Then, they hold an election for delegates who will represent the town in the state convention in May. These delegates are not being reported to the press, because they are all officially "unpledged" to any candidate per Maine caucus rules. We wont officially know who these delegates will pledge to, until the May convention.

However, we can "unofficially" know who they intend to support through people who attended the caucuses, and from this information it appears that we are leading in state delegates who will vote in the convention.

The reason we are doing so well in delegates, yet not winning the straw poll, is essentially because its relatively easy to show up and vote, but it takes a bigger level of commitment to volunteer as a delegate as well. You not only have to pay a fee, but also have to find time in your schedule to show up for the convention, make arrangements to get there, etc. We have a much higher voter to delegate turnover rate than others, which is why we can be leading one while trailing the other.
 
That's an excellent description of how it all works in Maine. I wish my train of thought could put together descriptions like that.
 
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