Maddow: Ron Paul could be nominated at RNC, only needs one more state

anaconda said:
I am mistaken. It's the comment posted by "Anonymous" but at the bottom like I said. Actually, I'll just copy and paste it here:



"What is interesting is how many people have commented here, including the author, without watching any of the cell phone videos available on YouTube.

I’ve read several reports, and watched videos of the Rules Committee meeting and of the opening of the Convention. Here is a summary as I see it:

* At the LA Caucus on Apr. 28th, Ron Paul wins 111 of 150 delegates. The LAGOP State Central Committee gets to appoint an additional 30 delegates so Ron Paul has 111 of 180 delegates going to the state convention.

* Rules Committee delegates worked for about 1 month to develop the rules for the convention.

* The day before the Rule Committee meeting just prior to the convention, the executive committee of the LAGOP publishes 16 pages of “supplemental” rules that they say will govern the convention and all committee meetings. According to Ron Paul supporters, these new rules violate the LAGOP bylaws and RNC rules.

* The day before the convention at the Rules Committee meeting, the majority of the members of the committee rejected the new rules and 16 of the 21 members voted to remove the Rule Committee chairman, who was Scott Wilfong, the 2012 LAGOP Caucus Director, and voted to install Alex Helwig as the new Rules Committee chairman. The Rules Committee then met and adopted the rules for the convention. All actions were accomplished in accordance with Roberts Rules of Order, which Mr. Wilfong had stated would govern the meeting.

* At the convention the next day, Roger Villere (Convention Chairman) calls for the report from the Rules Committee, and introduces Mr. Wilfong. A woman delegate then twice asks a request for information, but she is ignored by both Mr. Villere and Mr. Wilfong. Alex Helwig then attempts to tell Mr. Villere that Mr. Wilfong is not the Rules Committee chairman, that Mr. Wilfong was removed the day before. Mr. Wilfong then states that he is still the Rules Committee chairman. After some argument, Mr. Villere asks for Mr. Helwig to leave, and then asks the sergeant-at-arms to have him removed. As the off-duty police officers approach Mr. Helwig, he calls for a vote to remove the Chairman, which is immediately seconded by several people.

* As Mr. Helwig is escorted from the room**, Mr. Wilfong attempts to gives his report. But many delegates then start chanting “the chairman was removed” — clearly a message to Mr. Villere that Mr. Wilfong was not the Rules Committee chairman. While Mr. Wilfong is speaking, Mr. Henry Herford is nominated and then elected by an overwhelming (per voice vote) majority of the delegates. The majority of the delegates then turn their chairs around with their backs to Mr. Villere and proceed with the meeting. Mr. Herford runs the meeting for the majority of the delegates using a portable PA system, while Mr. Villere also continues from the dais with a smaller group. Mr. Villere then tells Mr. Herford to turn his microphone off. Mr. Herford does not, and Mr. Villere then asks the sergeant-at-arms to shut off Mr. Wilfong’s microphone and have him removed.

* After Mr. Helwig is removed*** by the off-duty police officers, the majority of the delegates then elect Connie Bernard as the new Chairman. They proceed with the convention.

Anyone have other information to add?

Leaving aside the issue of personal injuries (see below), do the actions of the LAGOP sound like they were proper?

I went to the Democratic candidates’ forum for Alexandria, VA City Council last week, and I was so appalled by what I heard that I was going to attend the Alexandria GOP meeting last night to see what Republicans are running. But I am rather disgusted with some of the Republican leadership at this point, so at the last minute I decided not to go. Maybe my vote, and my money, won’t go to the GOP this year, either.

** According to a statement released by the Ron Paul campaign, “Alex Helwig, Chairman of the Rules Committee who made the motion to remove the chair, was arrested by Shreveport police and released. During his brief detainment, some of his fingers were broken and when he returned to the event he was walking with aid of a cane.”

*** Also according to the Paul campaign, “Mr. Herford has a prosthetic hip and according to a doctor at the scene it appears as though the prosthetic was dislocated and may require replacement.” Herford’s injury can be seen on several videos on the web.
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this is accurate.
 
I truly believe that praying for the Texas Convention worked. It had 8,000 people there and could have been very nasty folks.

I had no idea we still have states who have not held their conventions yet. When is Nebraska's, which state still needs to have a convention, and whatever happened in California?
 
freedomordeath said:
How much would a 1min cable TV ad cost anyways reagrding the Lousianna delagtes story, I think this would be an excellent idea, we got his far we might as well go down fighting. We should air the advert and add the contact details for the RNC in the advert to ask them to re-instate the correct slate.
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Corey et all would know, they aired High Tide on cable, we don't have to go major network to get enough to know about it. If we run it on cable media will mention it. EVERYONE doesn't have to know, just enough that the credentials committee impartiality would be destroyed if they ruled in the way obviously contrary to common sense.

When I was chipping in to High Tide I remember a thousand dollars went a long way, relatively speaking, on decent shows on cable. We might be able to afford a little Fox Business in the Tampa market, at least, and in some less expensive markets of interest, Iowa, other swing states. That would also help our guys' credibility going forward, I should think, in the parties we have taken over in those states.
 
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truthspeaker said:
I truly believe that praying for the Texas Convention worked. It had 8,000 people there and could have been very nasty folks.

I had no idea we still have states who have not held their conventions yet. When is Nebraska's, which state still needs to have a convention, and whatever happened in California?
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California delegates are not picked at convention, unfortunately.

And I do pray that if it is God's will the NE convention is orderly, peaceful, and Ron's delegates prevail.
 
truthspeaker said:
I truly believe that praying for the Texas Convention worked. It had 8,000 people there and could have been very nasty folks.

I had no idea we still have states who have not held their conventions yet. When is Nebraska's, which state still needs to have a convention, and whatever happened in California?
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Nebraska is the 14th. California apparently does not have a convention as the delegates are selected directly (I'm unsure of this, but sailingaway would have more info).

EDIT: It looks like sailingaway beat me to it. :)
 
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sailingaway said:
Corey et all would know, they aired High Tide on cable, we don't have to go major network to get enough to know about it. If we run it on cable media will mention it. EVERYONE doesn't have to know, just enough that the credentials committee impartiality would be destroyed if they ruled in the way obviously contrary to common sense.

When I was chipping in to High Tide I remember a thousand dollars went a long way, relatively speaking, on decent shows on cable. We might be able to afford a little Fox Business in the Tampa market, at least, and in some less expensive markets of interest, Iowa, other swing states. That would also help our guys' credibility going forward, I should think, in the parties we have taken over in those states.
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If somebody creates it, I will chip in. Currently between jobs so I can't afford much but I will contribute what I can.


Monotaur said:
Nebraska is the 14th. California apparently does not have a convention as the delegates are selected directly (I'm unsure of this, but sailingaway would have more info).

EDIT: It looks like sailingaway beat me to it. :)
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Here in California each candidate (campaign) hand picks their own slate of delegates. No caucuses, no convention that I'm aware of. The results of the primary dictate who gets the delegates. Most of the delegates are given out based on the results in each Congressional District. Three delegates per district. Then the candidate who wins the majority of districts gets several at-large delegates as well, I think something like 42 more delegates.

Unfortunately since the MSM was spreading the lie that Romney had clinched the nomination after his "win" in Texas, everyone here thought RP was out, so he did not win in a single district. Even my next door neighbor, who is a huge conspiracy theorist and a RP supporter said to me the day before the primary, "So now that Ron Paul's out, are you going to bother to vote?" I said, "Karl, what the f*ck?!? He's not out!!!" So if my neighbor didn't know, when he generally keeps himself pretty informed via the non-MSM news, I imagine most people in California believed RP was already out.

It's unfortunate because California has more delegates than any other state, but the delegates are decided by the uninformed masses (the sheeple), which really means the delegates here are basically selected by the media.
 
Maddow is on right now covering the Mass delegate debacle. Video will be available soon Im sure.
 
Feeding the Abscess said:
I will eat my underwear and post it on YouTube if the campaign actually enters Ron's name for nomination after having won 5 states.
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I don't think you quite get it. The campaign doesn't do it, the delegates do.

And Ron has outright said he wanted it because it gives him a 'nomination speech' which isn't edited by anyone and is HIS speech.
 
sailingaway said:
I don't think you quite get it. The campaign doesn't do it, the delegates do.

And Ron has outright said he wanted it because it gives him a 'nomination speech' which isn't edited by anyone and is HIS speech.
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I'll amend it slightly:

I'll eat my underwear and post the video on YouTube if the campaign doesn't discourage the delegates from nominating Ron from the floor.
 
Feeding the Abscess said:
I'll amend it slightly:

I'll eat my underwear and post the video on YouTube if the campaign doesn't discourage the delegates from nominating Ron from the floor.
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I fear that myself, that they will try, and try to get the delegates to make it VP instead (using Nevada they could do that now, and I think they can use Nevada anyhow, but there are so many credentials challenges.....we need NE too.)

But I am not sure the delegates would go along with it, and I am not sure I think RON would push it. Ron just wants the speech.
 
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I just watched a youtube of another portion of her show on another thread. Seems like the rest of the show should be tubed by now.
 
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What not get Rachel Maddox to send a video crew there herself? She might as well follow up on the story. If everyone at the NE state convention knew of that presence, there would be less opportunity for cheating...
 
My GOD. Do you people realize what this means!?

WE ARE DOING IT!!!

We didnt bust our arses for nothing!!!
 
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