Maddow: Ron Paul could be nominated at RNC, only needs one more state

[puppetmaster]

Go get-em guys take no prisoners

 

[bubbleboy]

Oh too bad Rand already endorsed Romney, I guess he didn't know this.

 

[Barrex]

@sailingaway
I am not stalking you or anything like that but again Mitt and GOP are contesting a lot of Rons delegates so anything can happen...Nebraska would make it closer to 100% sure that he will be nominated...

 

[sailingaway]

@sailingaway
I am not stalking you or anything like that but again Mitt and GOP are contesting a lot of Rons delegates so anything can happen...Nebraska would make it closer to 100% sure that he will be nominated...

But Ron is entitled to them and I see no benefit in projecting the clearly correct outcome as being 'in doubt'. If Romney dominated credentials committtee cheats, everyone SHOULD be shocked. That we are already clear that they intend to try shouldn't turn into an 'expectation' that the cheating will be successful, to help the party establishment get away with cheating in the public mind, imho.

 

[tuggy24g]

Well I thought he already had 5 states. Minnesota, Nevada, Louisiana, Iowa,Maine,Colorado, and Massachusetts? Maybe it has to do with what states delegates are bound and unbound, but not sure? What about states like Pennsylvania who delegates do not have a preference until convention time? Maybe someone can explain!!

 

[sailingaway]

Well I thought he already had 5 states. Minnesota, Nevada, Louisiana, Iowa,Maine,Colorado, and Massachusetts? Maybe it has to do with what states delegates are bound and unbound, but not sure? What about states like Pennsylvania who delegates do not have a preference until convention time? Maybe someone can explain!!

Colorado is only a majority if the Santa people who said they would vote for Ron do, and they have to be unbound for that on ballot but in Nomination should be able to if they stay true on that point. But now Santa himself will actually be there, I just am not counting on it. It MAY be a majority for nomination purposes and for votes on numerous conservative issues, but we will have to see, so I'm not counting it yet. Mass isn't a majority even assuming our duly elected (by the direct voters) delegates are seated because we only got the majority of the CDs not the ones the allocation committee (party insiders) selected. We have LA, ME, MN, IA and NV however, but the NV people are or aren't (depending on your position on binding) bound to Romney on the first ballot VOTE. But the first vote isn't the NOMINATION vote, and for nomination that should be enough, not even counting Alaska (where we might have the vote in coalition) and OK where if our delegates are seated we may have it or TX or Oregon which may be close, etc.

NE is yet to come and the fact they are hiring tons of 'security' means to me they intend to cheat and know our guys will be outraged. That is certainly what happened in LA and MO.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Colorado is only a majority if the Santa people who said they would vote for Ron do, and they have to be unbound for that. It MAY be a majority for nomination purposes and for votes on numerous conservative issues, but we will have to see, so I'm not counting it yet. Mass isn't a majority even assuming our duly elected (by the direct voters) delegates are seated because we only got the majority of the CDs not the ones the allocation committee (party insiders) selected. We have LA, ME, MN, IA and NV however, but the NV people are or aren't (depending on your position on binding) bound to Romney on the first ballot VOTE. But the first vote isn't the NOMINATION vote, and for nomination that should be enough, not even counting Alaska (where we might have the vote in coalition) and OK where if our delegates are seated we may have it or TX or Oregon which may be close, etc.

NE is yet to come and the fact they are hiring tons of 'security' means to me they intend to cheat and know our guys will be outraged. That is certainly what happened in LA and MO.

I hope there are no shinanigans in NE. We don't need no stinkin' broken bones and jail time for playing by the rules. But the hiring 'security' does make the intentions of the establishment suspect, at this point.

 

[sailingaway]

I hope there are no shinanigans in NE. We don't need no stinkin' broken bones and jail time for playing by the rules. But the hiring 'security' does make the intentions of the establishment suspect, at this point.

I hope there are tons of video cameras in NE. I would expect there to be an argument over that and over pretending some unilaterally trumped up rules banning it exist, just as in MO and other places.

 

[slamhead]

We have 5 with Mass but we know what happened there.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

If they keep puffing out their chests, more info for LFRP. The party shouldn't be allowed to call for security at all since the delegates are the sovereigns in the house. The different chairs are obliged by the delegates, not the other way around.

 

[rb3b3]

if there was ever a time but more importantly a place for the lawyers for ron paul to be, it would be in nebraska with video cameras and the whole 9 yards!!!!! all this extra security as we all know means one thing and one thing only, its to keep ron from winning

 

[mommaliberty]

A cable ad with the best video available. Agree with this.

why not use Google tv ads service... pick the time slot etc.

 

[walt]

The "hired security" in Louisiana were there for exactly this kind of thing, to "maintain an orderly convention." And in Nebraska they're saying they've hired extra. Sounds to me like the Nebraska GOP leadership is planning more violence in the name of rule breaking and election fraud.

I wonder if any Nebraska delegates might be able to use a little bit of Louisiana video, some tidbits about the Federal lawsuit, and a little bit of persuasion in order to convince at least some local TV media to cover the convention? Maybe they could entice them by pointing out they may get the national scoop on more bones being broken? (Of course I hope that doesn't happen again, but you know how the media loves juicy bad news...)

Personally if I were a Nebraska delegate I would do everything possible to get some TV cameras in there. And (obviously) would bring my own camera either way...

This would be wise +rep

 

[anaconda]

Nevada = #5?

 

[sailingaway]

Nevada = #5?

yes, and it should be fine, right there. IA, ME, MN, LA and NV. (not even counting OK, or a couple where we were awfully close to half or majority) But we also have a good shot at NE next weekend. We know, because the party is hiring 'extra security' in case we 'try something' which is what they do when they know they don't have the numbers to win fairly, and plan to cheat. At least, so far that has been the case. The write up even said they were warned to by LA of all places, where OUR guys had broken bones and were hospitalized by THEIR private security.

 

[anaconda]

But the first vote isn't the NOMINATION vote, and for nomination that should be enough

Anybody know how we can get a little more assurance or clarity on this?

 

[anaconda]

yes, and it should be fine, right there. IA, ME, MN, LA and NV. (not even counting OK, or a couple where we were awfully close to half or majority) But we also have a good shot at NE next weekend. We know, because the party is hiring 'extra security' in case we 'try something' which is what they do when they know they don't have the numbers to win fairly, and plan to cheat. At least, so far that has been the case. The write up even said they were warned to by LA of all places, where OUR guys had broken bones and were hospitalized by THEIR private security.

I thought LA was still up in the air?

 

[cheapseats]

REALITY CHECK: Y'all are wide-screen that Rachel Maddow is NOT a friend of Liberty, ergo NOT a friend The Moovement...RIGHT?

 

[sailingaway]

Anybody know how we can get a little more assurance or clarity on this?

A rules 'expert' said he thought they could vote for Ron in the nomination process, quoted in an article. But what are rules? As we have seen, they are fluid.....

 

[cheapseats]

QUESTION: If Ron Paul is nominated from the floor...with drama naturally-read-that-PREDICTABLY ensuing, including enthusiastically slapping Mitt Romney in the face...how does that NOT jeopardize the GETTING RAND IN GOOD GRACES WITH BAD GUYS game plan?