Maddow and Ed Schultz on newsletters 12/22/11

[unknown]

Rachel is hateful and biased against Ron Paul, she has been for some time.

You'll notice she played everything else in full but only played a snippet of the statement from the October 2001 Texas Monthly article. Understandably its more than a few lines but it could have been read quickly or at-least been more complete in the interest of accuracy.

At 5:05 she only mentioned the following:

...those words weren't really written by me. It wasn't my language at all. Other people help me with my newsletter as I travel around.

Here is the entire passage. No way in hell was Rachel going to "report on" what came after.

What made the statements in the publication even more puzzling was that, in four terms as a U.S. congressman and one presidential race, Paul had never uttered anything remotely like this.

When I ask him why, he pauses for a moment, then says, "I could never say this in the campaign, but those words weren't really written by me. It wasn't my language at all. Other people help me with my newsletter as I travel around. I think the one on Barbara Jordan was the saddest thing, because Barbara and I served together and actually she was a delightful lady." Paul says that item ended up there because "we wanted to do something on affirmative action, and it ended up in the newsletter and became personalized. I never personalize anything."

His reasons for keeping this a secret are harder to understand: "They were never my words, but I had some moral responsibility for them ... I actually really wanted to try to explain that it doesn't come from me directly, but they [campaign aides] said that's too confusing. 'It appeared in your letter and your name was on that letter and therefore you have to live with it.'" It is a measure of his stubbornness, determination, and ultimately his contrarian nature that, until this surprising volte-face in our interview, he had never shared this secret. It seems, in retrospect, that it would have been far, far easier to have told the truth at the time.

I'm confused about something. In the 1996 Dallas Morning News article, they quote from the newsletter then say:

In the interview, he did not deny he made the statement about the swiftness of black men.

Ok but that is not an admission that he did.

They then say the following:

"If you try to catch someone that has stolen a purse from you, there is no chance to catch them," Dr. Paul said.

Is this a statement Dr. Paul made in the interview or is this another quote from the newsletters? And if he did say this, it seems like a general statement to me.

I really wish we could see the actual article and that there was audio/video.

 

[cajuncocoa]

this board can't handle the truth and is complete denial about the severity of this issue. Yes this is the media's fault that Paul has racist newsletters that he can't really explain?

I agree with this, I think it needs to be addressed. It's not enough that WE know better; there are many voters who will be introduced to Ron Paul in the coming months who will be hearing this for the first time.

 

[unknown]

this board can't handle the truth and is complete denial about the severity of this issue. Yes this is the media's fault that Paul has racist newsletters that he can't really explain?

I thought he did explain...

Shockingly the media is trying to portray him as a racist irregardless. I thought their agenda on this was relatively transparent...

 

[milo10]

Thought-crime, political correctness, paranoia. What a sorry state the leftists have brought American society to. You are all guilty. Every single one of you. Yes, I mean you! Everyone. You are all guilty of thought crime! No one is innocent! Do not deny it, that doubles your guilt! You all must shoot yourselves in the head so that Rachel Maddow's wrath can be satisfied!

After that is done, Rachel and her ilk can get back to electing politicians who satisfy their arbitrary and prejudiced demands. For it is so much better to have politicians who they can label as politically correct, yet who still kill innocent people through unjust wars, rather than have someone who wants to end the unnecessary wars and bloodshed. They have become fully accustomed to advocating those who will engage in death and murder as long as the rhetoric satisfies their selfish and shallow desires, while at the same time they want to destroy with great venom anyone who would stop the killing. And they find their twins in those on the far right who would also attack anyone who desires peace. The blatant hypocrisy is sickening. These people pretend to take the moral high ground under a false banner of political correctness, while their real agenda is death and destruction. In their state of paranoid delusion, everyone is an enemy, everyone is guilty of some form of thought crime, and their solution is destroy anyone who they feel threatened by. Yes, many on the left and the right share this paranoid illness, and they both cover up their delusions with a lie that they will save us from these perceived evils. To find true evil, they need look no farther than a mirror.

/rant

Very nicely written.

 

[liberty2013]

On the MLK holiday

Why did Paul vote Yes here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-624


and No here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1983-289

 

[HRD53]

On the MLK holiday

Why did Paul vote Yes here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-624


and No here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1983-289

I guess he wanted Mondays off

 

[HRD53]

I remember struggling with this the 1st time I was made aware of the newsletter scandal back in 2008. My political hero no longer walked on water... However Dr. Paul's insistence on the message being bigger than him stuck with me to the point where i'm not going to back down my support for him. And I also share his optimism that liberty is a message that will appeal to a lot of people of a lot of backgrounds.

That being said, its a little hypocritical of folks on here who were literally dancing on Herman Cain's political grave to all of a sudden take issue when the media starts lobbing the shit our way. And the fact of the matter is Paul is NOT answering questions of who wrote them. It seems highly unlikely that he doesn't know. So he is purposefully dodging the question. And it makes sense to me because in Paul's former life, he definitely had tight connections with folks I would hardly call open minded when it came to racial differences. Hell, just not too long ago someone posted a link to a vintage Paul campaign ad where he was endorsed by James Kilpatrick. The same James Kilpatrick who wrote the essay: "The Hell He Is Equal" in which he wrote that the "Negro race, as a race, is in fact an inferior race."

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?311279-Vintage-Ron-Paul!

The bottom line is that Ron's core message still stands up. And its the message that scares the hell out of the mainstream establishment. There is no way in my mind that Ron Paul is more dangerous than a Newt Gingrich or a Barack Obama. The only reason he is "dangerous" is because he is teaching us the importance of believing in yourself, believing in freedom and not relying on a government to take care of us and control us. That message has only gotten stronger because of him and it will continue to grow. I hope this doesn't lead to ruin for his run to the 2012 election, but even if it does believe me he has already gotten the fire started... its only going to get bigger.

 

[icon124]

I just hope he does ANYTHING to clear this up.

To the average person that doesn't know to much it does really look fishy...

We need some kind of press event to go into details of everything.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

posting vids of shows that almost no one watches which contain nothing we don't already know is a rather fruitless exercise.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

On the MLK holiday

Why did Paul vote Yes here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-624


and No here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1983-289

Maybe his constituents asked him to do it?

 

[Steppenwolf6]

+rep. Shocked that so many allegedly smart people can't remember back ONE frickin' month to the derailment of the Cain Train.

You and zeros please do us a favor and suck on the new PPP poll , Doc.Paul just pulled away on top ,four points ahead of Romney..and 10 points ahead of Gingrich.

Sorry for you but..just suck on it and the Cain train.