Louisiana Ron Paul delegates lose appeal [mod: FIRST appeal]

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For Immediate Release | August 11, 2012
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RNC Ruling Favors State Party Delegate Slate

On Friday, August 10, the RNC Committee on Contests issued a ruling in favor of seating the national convention delegation elected and certified by the Republican Party of Louisiana. “The Committee recommends that the contested delegates and alternates certified by the Republican Party of Louisiana be credentialed and seated for the 2012 Republican National Convention,” read the Contest Report.

On July 28, the leaders of the Louisiana Ron Paul Campaign filed a Notice of Contest with the RNC seeking to unseat the entire delegation elected and certified by the LAGOP. According to the Contest Committee, the Executive Committee of the Republican Party of Louisiana acted appropriately.

"This decision simply confirms what we've been saying from the beginning...that we followed the rules," stated LAGOP Executive Director Jason Dore. Following the decision, the LAGOP has moved its focus towards the Republican National Convention later this month and the November elections.

“After yesterday’s ruling and today's announcement of Paul Ryan, we are ready to move forward with electing the Romney-Ryan team and defeating Obama in November,” said LAGOP Chairman Roger Villere Jr. “We must work together in order to make sure that Obama is a one-term president.”

To view the opinion:
http://lagop.com/blog/wp-content/up...-Report-and-Recommendation-for-Resolution.pdf

 

[RickyJ]

How can you work within such a corrupted party? The lawsuit is our only hope now it appears. I hope Ron says something about this.

 

[sailingaway]

We need to get our videos on Louisiana packaged. If they are willing to do that, when video is so obvious about what happened, then they are ready to do anything. I had thought for some reason that there was a contest committee but that THAT was appealable to the credentials committee. Is that correct, does anyone know? Because my understanding was the final determination would be at RNC.

the following statement has been confirmed by a state delegate who said he would testify to it:


Private security (off duty police) in Louisiana State GOP convention at the specific bidding of Villiers, the self appointed temporarty chair of the convention manhandled the rightful rules chair duly elected the night before by the majority of the rules committee to force him from his elected office at the convention, breaking his fingers in the process. This even though during the process the self appointed temporary chair was removed from his seat by a majority of the state convention. Thereafter, at the bidding of Villiers, other private security manhandled Herford, the newly elected chair of the convention, knocking him to the floor and injuring his newly implanted prosthetic hip, requiring that he be removed from the convention by ambulence, and preventing him from contiuing with his duly elected position at the state convetion, requiring the election of a new chair.



supporting video:

 

[coffeewithchess]

How can you work within such a corrupted party? The lawsuit is our only hope now it appears. I hope Ron says something about this.

By endorsing the nominee, Mitt Romney, of course? I mean, is that a serious question? Why are these delegates wasting their time is what I'm trying to figure out. They should just all go stealth, delete all Facebook pages, anything online politically connected to RP, and join the party as a hardcore Romney cheerleader.

I mean, heck, if Rand Paul could endorse Mitt Romney on national television, and get the blessings of the official RonPaul2012.com campaign site being used to defend that endorsement, what exactly are the RP delegates trying to do? Waste time?

 

[Ranger29860]

We need to get our videos on Louisiana packaged. If they are willing to do that, when video is so obvious about what happened, then they are ready to do anything. I had thought for some reason that there was a contest committee but that THAT was appealable to the credentials committee. Is that correct, does anyone know? Because my understanding was the final determination would be at RNC.

Thats what I thought to. It would make no sense to have the final say at the state level since those appealing would have to appeal to the same individuals that might have been the problem. Kinda like having to have the cop that assaulted you take your report on the assault.

 

[sailingaway]

By endorsing the nominee, Mitt Romney, of course? I mean, is that a serious question? Why are these delegates wasting their time is what I'm trying to figure out. They should just all go stealth, delete all Facebook pages, anything online politically connected to RP, and join the party as a hardcore Romney cheerleader.

I mean, heck, if Rand Paul could endorse Mitt Romney on national television, and get the blessings of the official RonPaul2012.com campaign site being used to defend that endorsement, what exactly are the RP delegates trying to do? Waste time?

In case you haven't noticed, RON'S delegates by and large have NOT endorsed Romney so don't take it out on them.

 

[Ranger29860]

Wait this is the one that had fingers broken and a hip displaced? I am starting to get all these different cases confused. I though LA was the state where the rump convention was held outside for like 4 hours after they adjourned the meeting without a vote?

I could maybe understand a rump convention like that getting denied but this one was beyond blatant with multiple cameras video taping. Hell it was like 95% of the delegates who turned there seats around......

 

[coffeewithchess]

In case you haven't noticed, RON'S delegates by and large have NOT endorsed Romney so don't take it out on them.

The question was how can you work within the party/system? Apparently by taking Rand and Ron's example. When it comes down to the wire, instead of going for broke and trying to break the system, you cuddle up to it. Snuggle it (on national television). You end a campaign with a few million, and have your son endorse a guy that laughed in your face and lied about your positions, or is so ignorant he can't understand them.

The RP delegates are doing it all wrong. Endorse Romney. Save face. And prepare for Rand Paul's losing 2016 campaign. Hope the Paul's are happy.

 

[sailingaway]

Wait this is the one that had fingers broken and a hip displaced? I am starting to get all these different cases confused. I though LA was the state where the rump convention was held outside for like 4 hours after they adjourned the meeting without a vote?

I could maybe understand a rump convention like that getting denied but this one was beyond blatant with multiple cameras video taping. Hell it was like 95% of the delegates who turned there seats around......

I don't want to use the term 'rump convention' carelessly. Where our guys had the continuation of the convention after the establishment started closing the walls in on them in the reception hall without proper adjournment, and it went into the parking lot was Oklahoma. You are right that this (Louisiana) is the one where the rules chair's fingers (the real one, the one the majority elected) were broken and he returned walking with a cane, and where the guy, elected chair by the majority, who had recently had a prosthetic hip implanted was knocked down by the State GOP's private security and had to be taken off by ambulance.

The pertinent parts are covered in the video I posted above if you want to see it. The first video is a compilation of the procedurally relevant stuff. The first 2:30 minutes is just our guys making motions or raising points of information and being ignored. It is important procedurally, because it gives cause to challenge and vote out the chair by the majority, which you see happening.

To underline how MUCH we were in the majority, a letter by a local GOP chapter pointed out that in his Parish, a delegate our guys had voted in had 700 votes to the 200 votes the establishment delegate had received, and the other two establishment delegates for that Parish hadn't even run for delegate but had just been privately selected later.

 

[sailingaway]

The question was how can you work within the party/system? Apparently by taking Rand and Ron's example. When it comes down to the wire, instead of going for broke and trying to break the system, you cuddle up to it. Snuggle it (on national television). You end a campaign with a few million, and have your son endorse a guy that laughed in your face and lied about your positions, or is so ignorant he can't understand them.

The RP delegates are doing it all wrong. Endorse Romney. Save face. And prepare for Rand Paul's losing 2016 campaign. Hope the Paul's are happy.

We know you are pissed off but don't vent on us. There is a whole subforum called the Vent for that. You don't need to dump on people who feel just as badly about some things as you do and pick fights to make it worse.

 

[RickyJ]

Wait this is the one that had fingers broken and a hip displaced? I am starting to get all these different cases confused. I though LA was the state where the rump convention was held outside for like 4 hours after they adjourned the meeting without a vote?

I could maybe understand a rump convention like that getting denied but this one was beyond blatant with multiple cameras video taping. Hell it was like 95% of the delegates who turned there seats around......

This is in your face corruption. We got proof on tape, they are caught red handed and still they keep it up. They must have assurances from high up that nothing will happen to them if they continue on their corrupted path and that they will be richly rewarded. In case anyone thought it was really possible to change the system from within the system, this is your answer.

 

[CPUd]

It's time for war now. Search "LAGOP" in google there are at least 3 results on the first page about the convention. When I get back to the shop next week, I can do some work with the videos. We can saturate the search results with this story until these people can't get anything done with the press without question #1 being about what happened at the convention.

 

[sailingaway]

It's time for war now. Search "LAGOP" in google there are at least 3 results on the first page about the convention. When I get back to the shop next week, I can do some work with the videos. We can saturate the search results with this story until these people can't get anything done with the press without question #1 being about what happened at the convention.

Thank you for your help with the videos! If I knew how to help with that I would, but I will definitely spread them!

 

[coffeewithchess]

We know you are pissed off but don't vent on us. There is a whole subforum called the Vent for that. You don't need to dump on people who feel just as badly about some things as you do and pick fights to make it worse.

Who picked a fight? I was answering a question. How do you work within the corrupt party? Endorse Romney?
Again, the delegates that are trying to stay delegates for RP, I wonder why? If they do go to the convention...what will it accomplish within the corrupt party?

 

[sailingaway]

Who picked a fight? I was answering a question. How do you work within the corrupt party? Endorse Romney?
Again, the delegates that are trying to stay delegates for RP, I wonder why? If they do go to the convention...what will it accomplish within the corrupt party?

Is that really what you want people to do? From what you have said before, I doubt it. You are striking out because you don't like the endorsement, or the timing. Neither did I. But noone here did it, so don't dump on us.

And it sure won't accomplish anything if they DON'T go.

Did you see our delegates in Maine are calling a special meeting to ask for the resignation of the National Committeewoman who challenged them because they are Paul supporters, and that the governor said if they aren't seated he won't attend the RNC either? He is a delegate too.

I think something will happen. I don't know what but the more people we get there, the more possibilities we have. Your attitude rains on enthusiasm.

 

[RickyJ]

It's time for war now. Search "LAGOP" in google there are at least 3 results on the first page about the convention. When I get back to the shop next week, I can do some work with the videos. We can saturate the search results with this story until these people can't get anything done with the press without question #1 being about what happened at the convention.

It certainly worth a try, but I wouldn't expect much, people just don't seem to care unless a talking head on TV says it to them.

 

[sailingaway]

It certainly worth a try, but I wouldn't expect much, people just don't seem to care unless a talking head on TV says it to them.

Please read my posts to coffeewithchess...

And please check out the video. I have seen it so many time I am not objective any more. Is it obvious what is happening there? The videos aren't that long. Even the longest is just key clips, it isn't the whole convention.

 

[puppetmaster]

They will never get my vote

 

[coffeewithchess]

Is that really what you want people to do? From what you have said before, I doubt it. You are striking out because you don't like the endorsement, or the timing. Neither did I. But noone here did it, so don't dump on us.

And it sure won't accomplish anything if they DON'T go.

Did you see our delegates in Maine are calling a special meeting to ask for the resignation of the National Committeewoman who challenged them because they are Paul supporters, and that the governor said if they aren't seated he won't attend the RNC either? He is a delegate too.

I think something will happen. I don't know what but the more people we get there, the more possibilities we have. Your attitude rains on enthusiasm.

My attitude does not rain on enthusiam, that was sucked out back in...ohhh, early June? January? When Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich dropped out of the race which helped further show that Ron Paul and his campaign were working with Romney and his campaign?
I mean, if we are moving forward, and we don't have nearly $3 million in the bank of other people's money, we should move forward wisely.

 

[BSU kid]

Did anyone actually expect the corrupt RNC to side with us? I mean they are the ones who might not even seat our Maine delegation, which is a complete double standard when you look at how they just ruled. Anyways...the only way to win is through state and federal law at this point.