looks like RP got 4th in WV...

Give the votes to Huck in the next round. Then McCain's people will back Huck in the last round. Can I get an amen? I don't like Huckleberry, but that's the obvious strategy, isn't it? Huck's way better than McPain. We can walk out at the national convention.
 
Thanks for the explanation.

I have a feeling the majority of people are clueless as to how all of this works.

So, if enough people became delegates for Ron Paul - he would have had a better chance - I can see how this would be hard for a grassroots effort where people are just learning how the system works. I can also see how it could be corrupted by mercenary delegates hired by the professional politician.
 
Yes very true... but huck people are more likely to strike a deal with us today than any other candidate's supporters. The enemy of my enemy is my friend mantra. We can throw West Virginia to say Huckabee in return for say Huck's supporters in caucus states out west where he has no chance helping make sure RP comes in first out there. Its a very good quid pro quo.


haha we are getting it. i feel like if we are on an MTV inferno show. we need to make POWER DEALS!! and POWER PLAYS!!!! the goal is brokered convention!!! :D
 
Sadly, I am afraid 4th place finishes are the order for the day...the guy just has not gotten enough publicity through the mass publicity machines. Millions of people still have absolutely no clue that a Ron Paul is running, much less, what he stands for...

time to start considering a new strategy....

go ahead now call me a troll.

I agree. We need a new strategy. We are pioneers. We've never been privvy to just how corrupt the media is before. Ron Paul's allowed us to witness the truth of what's going on. So now we have to be smarter and more creative, in addition to canvassing like hell the states that remain after super tuesday.
 
Unless Ron told me this himself I couldn't do it. It sends shivers down my spine.
 
Someone else made this point in another thread...we should only throw our support to someone if they commit to electing some of our delegates for the national convention. Otherwise, odds are greater that we get screwed later.
 
We've never been privvy to just how corrupt the media is before

you forget some of us were not asleep...just never heard....

but thanks to Ron our words were heard and people found him more credible than us.....
 
I agree. We need a new strategy. We are pioneers. We've never been privvy to just how corrupt the media is before. Ron Paul's allowed us to witness the truth of what's going on. So now we have to be smarter and more creative, in addition to canvassing like hell the states that remain after super tuesday.

This is what I think too.

After today, it's most likely no one has the delegates needed to secure the nomination. Sure, there will likely be a decisive FRONT runner, but that person will still have to secure other states.

Typically in the later states (like Indiana) turn out is low and there really isn't a reason to vote since the nominee has already been given a green light.

If the media touts McCain as the leader and the others drop out, turn out for conservatives will be LOW LOW LOW. This is our chance to win states! It won't matter if the media reports about it, all we have to do is stop someone from getting 51% of the national delegates.

IMO, our HQ's strategy should entail staying low and allow/encourage the grassroots. If our feet are on the street in the later states, there could be no stopping us :D

Anyone have a graph of total national delegates by state? What we need is the bottom line goal of a number to meet. :)
 
You walk out and you loose the ability to play the game and have no say so in the final result.

You don't have to like it, but you want to have an impact for the later states.

The only way you do that, is make deals when they want your votes. It might win you the next state.
 
You walk out and you loose the ability to play the game and have no say so in the final result.

You don't have to like it, but you want to have an impact for the later states.

The only way you do that, is make deals when they want your votes. It might win you the next state.


Agreed!

Think in terms of strategy - like one of those reality tv competitions- people make alliances but at the end there is only one.

;)
 
Thanks for the explanation.

I have a feeling the majority of people are clueless as to how all of this works.

So, if enough people became delegates for Ron Paul - he would have had a better chance - I can see how this would be hard for a grassroots effort where people are just learning how the system works. I can also see how it could be corrupted by mercenary delegates hired by the professional politician.

This is why my new website will come in handy down the road. It is going to be dedicated to educating the r3volution on how to win! It will be set up with explanations of the processes in all 50 states with forums for each state to discuss strategy.

I have it started but it won't be finished for a week or so: http://newr3volution.com/
 
Typically in the later states (like Indiana) turn out is low and there really isn't a reason to vote since the nominee has already been given a green light.

A candidate would be foolish to let their guard down if ANY other candidate is still in the race. Trust me, if RP stays in the race, McCain will GOTV.
 
This is what I think too.



Typically in the later states (like Indiana) turn out is low and there really isn't a reason to vote since the nominee has already been given a green light.

Proud Hoosier precinct leader/delegate/committeeman here and we aren't going quietly into that good night, my friend. We may not win Indiana, but I'll be damned if I let them have it without paying a price.
 
bubba... we need to play the game. vote for huckster and we get some press that we have power to make things happen. and media will say we voted for huckster because ron paul plan is a brokered convention. that will show our gameplan!!
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
If I can get in here and read this; the "media" can. I'm sure that the political analysts, that are hired by the "media" are way ahead of any strategies that might be revealed on this message board. The fact is that I have no idea what Paul's plan is; nor, for the sake of security, do I want to.
 
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