Lookie What They Are Prepping For Tampa.

i didn't know there was a Nato channel.... they sure made it look wonderful
 
...we shouldn't do anything stupid.


Past a certain age, NEVER is when we ought to do serious-stupid stuff (playtime-stupid is different). Past a certain age, we oughtn't need another Mortal to delineate Right & Wrong (accurate/mistaken is different).

Tom Hanks as Forrest Gump: "Mama always said, STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES."

Here's the thing. While it is perfectly understandable that some Liberty Lovers want Tampa to be celebratory and healing, some Liberty Lovers believe kicking the MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN can down the road to 2016 is stupid . . . even if yer gaining Stealth Delegates and State/Local Offices. Some Freedom Fighters spy not Strategery but COWARDICE in continuing to "play politics" at this late stage.

I don't think the world ENDS on 12/21/12 but I also don't think 2012 is "just another" YEAR, much less do I think this is "just another" election. I don't buy into "we'll get 'em in the next election" AT. ALL.

Our steadily increasing Wealth Gap defies claims that "we're gaining on them", and it MOCKS claims that "we're winning".

MONEY = POWER.
 
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LOL, Charlotte started the application process for groups that wish to march during the Democratic convention. The applications will be reviewed, and a decision will be made as to which groups can march. And those groups will be allowed to march in a park, blocks away from the convention so they are never seen.
 
Here's the thing. While it is perfectly understandable that some Liberty Lovers want Tampa to be celebratory and healing, some Liberty Lovers believe kicking the MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN can down the road to 2016 is stupid . . . even if yer gaining Stealth Delegates and State/Local Offices. Some Freedom Fighters spy not Strategery but COWARDICE in continuing to "play politics" at this late stage.

I think there's room for everyone, which is why I get peeved when people try crack on AJ followers, truthers, etc. If we have the same end goal, no one is hurting our movement besides those slinging insults, leaving us all open for trolling, etc. There were a fair number of people in 2008 who didn't think we'd make it to 2012. If that were the only faction, we wouldn't be looking at 300-400 seated delegates who have a preference for Paul. That's a big deal. Those people should be applauded for their dedication instead of being called cowards. (By anyone, not you particularly) It depends on what your time horizon is, and it turns out those people were right between 2008-1012. Their willingness to work with the system leaves all of their options open. Personally, I think smart people keep their options open until they're forced to make choices. 2016 is a long ways off. So was 2012, with no indication Paul would even run again, and most felt he wouldn't.

"Some Freedom Fighters" would be stupid to pick Tampa 2012 as their stand, imo. I think there's no reason for them to be upset people are trying to take a peaceful route. They should be happy about that and hope it finds success.
 
It was a conference, not a deployment. It was a demo. Cool too.

BTW, baking soda will help neutralize the pepper spray burning on skin, but it's not gonna help block it being breathed in.

Be safe.

That is why you put it in a kerchief and breathe through the kerchief. Simple chemistry says that if it neutralizes it then pulling air through it will neutralize much of the airstream that comes in direct contact with the sodium bicarbonate.

Rev9
 
That is why you put it in a kerchief and breathe through the kerchief. Simple chemistry says that if it neutralizes it then pulling air through it will neutralize much of the airstream that comes in direct contact with the sodium bicarbonate.

Rev9
Another simple chemistry method is letting several TUMS (calcium carbonate) dissolve on your sweaty kerchief and breathing through that. Should neutralize it great, just don't add a lot of water with either of these methods. A sweaty rag is perfect. Only add a pinch of cool moisture if absolutely necessary. :)
 
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Two words.

Hidden cameras. With live feeds.

OK that was five words. I thought of the last 3 as I was typing.


hidden cameras are easy live feeds are easy. hidden cameras with live feed are tickier.

hidden cameras cost $10. The sd card in them would cost more.

Live feed is smart phone ustream.

The primary thing that I like about Paul Fest is the fact that people can park an RV there. There could be an RV there with hidden cameras. People would be trained, instructed at the RV area. "Go get a hidden camera from the hidden camera RV"

There's certainly the possibility of not helpful mass chaos "led" by Kokesh. Kokesh does seem to enjoy and encourage fighting with cops. I would think that our goal would be to provide compelling images to the TV people. And get our own compelling images to upload right away to youtube.
 
hidden cameras are easy live feeds are easy. hidden cameras with live feed are tickier.

hidden cameras cost $10. The sd card in them would cost more.

Live feed is smart phone ustream.

The primary thing that I like about Paul Fest is the fact that people can park an RV there. There could be an RV there with hidden cameras. People would be trained, instructed at the RV area. "Go get a hidden camera from the hidden camera RV"

There's certainly the possibility of not helpful mass chaos "led" by Kokesh. Kokesh does seem to enjoy and encourage fighting with cops. I would think that our goal would be to provide compelling images to the TV people. And get our own compelling images to upload right away to youtube.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/808-11-HD-D...tal_Video_Recorders_Cards&hash=item2571f15fab - I have a lot of cams like this. I recommend this one. of the 720P. it's 808#11. A good 720p with no dropped frames. $30

http://www.ebay.com/itm/808-3-DVD-S...tal_Video_Recorders_Cards&hash=item46040bc961
This one is the best of the 480P. $11 808#3
 
How does a private group like the RNC get to have swat teams deployed all around the city?
 
Another simple chemistry method is letting several TUMS (calcium carbonate) dissolve on your sweaty kerchief and breathing through that. Should neutralize it great, just don't add a lot of water with either of these methods. A sweaty rag is perfect. Only add a pinch of cool moisture if absolutely necessary. :)

To avoid Taser hard core shock wear a tshirt soaked with salt water. The current runs thru the line of least resistance and will dance across the shirt. The prongs still hurt though. Wonder if one of those metallic glitter shirts that Tammy Fae Baker used to wear would work..

Rev9
 
To avoid Taser hard core shock wear a tshirt soaked with salt water. The current runs thru the line of least resistance and will dance across the shirt. The prongs still hurt though. Wonder if one of those metallic glitter shirts that Tammy Fae Baker used to wear would work..

Rev9

yeah. armor.

How about thinking about special clothing designed for this? Metallized mylar / emergency blanket, clothes made of this.

http://www.google.com/products/cata...o6LeT7adMeXA6AHkvsGyCw&sqi=2&ved=0CJEBEPMCMAA

would the aluminized protect against tazers? one thing interesting about these emergency blankets is that they are transparent, even if metallized. They're like window film. you cover your face with them, you can see out, through them, but they can't see in. Also, some window film will provide a pretty good seal over the eyes, if people are worried about something
effecting the eyes. I don't think the emergency blanket mylar / aluminum will provide a seal. You could just have duct tape though, and tape the blanket up

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=177QR89NYG7AEX3BSVPC - 80 cents a piece.
these can fit in your pocket. you get it, at the Tampa Fairgrounds, grassroots central, you open it up, then you tape 2 sides so it's like a sleeping bag - dimensions 42 inches across, 54 inches tall. 5.2 tall would be just about right. 42 inches across seems just about right too. You'd have enough room to use a smart phone in there, and you can video in there as well, through the metalized mylar. Can use a string at the waist to keep bad air from getting up beyond the waist.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-Emergenc...342?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c3510d06 66 cents a piece
 
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didn't gaddhafi do something similar? gaddhafi hired outside african mercenaries outside of libya to quell the islamist threat. soldiers from another country will more likely fire on the people of that country.

that is why 70%+ of US troops wont fire on Americans. Which is a big problem for the elite/bankers.
 
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