Long thread in Mitt Romney Forum

[WilliamC]

Don't Mormons think that the Constitution is divinely inspired?

Why then are honest Mormons not all voting for Ron Paul?

 

[DavyDuke17]

I don't want to register there and flood their forum with Ron Paul supporters, but please post something like this regarding the electability/waste of a vote issue:

This was copied from this website: http://www.3pc.net/essays/fallacy.html

Voting for a candidate other than your favorite has the exact opposite of the desired effect. If your beliefs exactly match those of some particular candidate, then you ought to vote for them. Of course, this never happens, so you have to pick the lesser, or the least, of several evils.

Suppose you, and people like you, almost always vote for candidates from one of the two major parties. If you do this, the optimal strategy for the parties is to IGNORE you completely. Since the candidate already knows that your vote is in hand, he can then concentrate on moving the platform AWAY from your wishes, in order to court the votes of people with beliefs far from your own.

For example, many people who like Libertarian ideas always vote for Republicans. What does the party do to reward them? They make policies to win over moderate liberals.
So the idea here is that if you like Paul but support Romney because he has a better chance at the nomination then there is no reason that the Republican establishment would practice Paul's ideas of limited government and strictly following the constitution. They will just take your vote as a vote for Romney's ideas of raising taxes, health mandates, ect.

Also explain that if you are voting for Romney so that we do not get McCain then you are essentially letting other people determine your vote. If this is the case, why not then vote for McCain because he has better independent appeal and therefore a better chance at beating Hillary in the general? Or why not go register Democrat and vote for Obama because you do not want another Clinton? The bottom line is that the way to get what you want out of your vote is to use it to express the ideas in which you believe in so that those ideas can wield power.

 

[Noble]

so now he's calling you out for spamming their forums...

and at the same time, encouraging people to spam ours

 

[CareerTech1]

This guy just stooped to new lows today

 

[Noble]

he also claims the mitt romney forums are so welcoming, even though he's telling you to jerk yourself off and just basically foaming at the mouth with ron paul hate

*sigh*

 

[CareerTech1]

he also claims the mitt romney forums are so welcoming, even though he's telling you to jerk yourself off and just basically foaming at the mouth with ron paul hate

*sigh*

indeed

 

[Noble]

good job not taking the bait, btw
good job staying respectful and intelligent in the face of... adversity

Edit : thats how a true ron paul representative acts.

 

[CareerTech1]

Thanks

 

[CareerTech1]

help me respond appropriately / professionally to his latest

 

[Ogren]

Electability? What pro-war republican candidate has any chance of being elected when 70% percent of the country want us out of the war? Fact is Ron can pull the democrat votes away from them. Hes already demonstrated that. Furthermore the GOP has 0% chance of winning against democrats in the general. Theres 50 million registered republicans and over 78 million registered democrats. Numbers win you elections, the only way to win this one is to gather the democrat vote and the republican vote. No republican candidate can accomplish this. Huck can only pull in the evangelical voters, romney can only pull in the mormon and rich white voters, mccain can pull in the warhawks and idiots. there are limits to what demographics the other candidates can appeal to. Ron doesn't have this problem, hes been able to get voters from across the political spectrum to vote for him. That is why hes the GOPs best hope at winning the general election.

 

[angelatc]

interesting,

over at www . alipac . us many are trying to "shame" Ron Paul supporters into supporting Romney, by saying a vote for Paul is a vote for McCain.

I gave them hell for that.

I keep wondering when I'm going to get booted from there. I donated a few times, so that might have bought me some time. If Mitt were to get elected, that forum will be a sad sad place when he signs off on amnesty.

 

[angelatc]

House Members Who Became President
or Presidential Candidates

Since 1789, 17 presidents and 33 major presidential nominees had served in the U.S. House of Representatives at some point in their career. This chart (http://clerk.house.gov/art_history/mem_bio/mem_pres.html ) identifies these individuals, listing their dates of House service, and it includes the other major offices they held. In this chart, presidents are identified in bold. Only in the case of John Quincy Adams (1824 and 1828) did a president become a Representative after White House service.

Only Henry Clay (1824), James A. Garfield (1880), and John Anderson (1980) ran for president in the general election as House members. In Garfield’s case, the only successful instance of a Representative becoming president, he had already been elected by the Ohio legislature to the U.S. Senate. Anderson ran as an independent challenger, and Clay’s candidacy predated the rise of the modern two-party system.

Edited because my son's textbook is wrong: 17 representatives, 18 governors have made it. Drat.

 

[CareerTech1]

Wow - they have banned me from their site - someone else will have to respond

 

[angelatc]

http://www.votemittromney.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=434

This thread is mildly amusing. He titles it "A call to Paul and Huck supporters" then gets mad when a Paul supporter responds.

Board Wars aren't cool. LEAVE MITT ALONE!! (sob!)

 

[Ogren]

Seriously, is that another parody forum? It gets hard to tell the difference sometimes.

 

[CareerTech1]

Ok now someone is asking me to prove that I made contributions to Mitt Romney's campaign last year - to validate that I was a Mitt supporter in the first place.

Let me see if I can find receipts from online contributions.

 

[CareerTech1]

I can't find the ones I did over the phone but here are the online receipts - Andrew's 2007 Mitt

 

[Dan D.]

"A vote for Paul instead of Romney is a vote for McCain"? Nah, more like "A vote for Romney instead of Paul is a vote for McCain, and a vote for Obama in the general election."