local GOP cheated me out of a delegate spot!

[y2quest]

Fist Let me say that today for the first time in my life, I have truly seen corruption up close and have personally felt it's sting.



I applied to become a delegate here in Florida and I was told that there would be 3 delegates and 3 alternates chosen from each congressional district to go to the National convention, 6 in total.


ok, so I go to my so called congressional caucus to find out that the delegates are not voted on by the republican voters of the district but they are chosen by a selection committee, that is not a caucus but I still go on with the process.



I go into a room with up to 8 people who are sitting in front of me and staring at me as if it were a trail or a parole hearing and they ask me "why I want to be become a delegate?" so I give them them my little speech as to why, then they thank me and I leave the room.



Now I don't know how many people in my district applied to be delegates but only THREE OF US SHOWED UP TO GO BEFORE THE SELECTION COMMITTEE

now I'm thinking "there are only 3 delegate spots and 3 alternate spots and only 3 of us showed up, 2 ron paul people and and 1 mccain person, they have to pick us!" after they interviewed all 3 of us they deliberated for about 15 mins and after just 15 min. they came back with the names of the 3 delegates and 3 alternates.



I thought for sure me and buddy would be picked because no one else bothered to show up! but to my surprise they had picked people who were not even there!! WE WERE SHOCKED!! my Buddy Alex asked them? "how WE! who showed up not be chosen but those who stay home get chosen?" there answer was" Individuals who applied to become delegates didn't have to show up to the so called caucus" Our mouths dropped to the floor! we told them first why weren't we told that? we were told that if you wanted to be selected you had to show up, and 2nd how can someone who doesn't even bother showing up get preference over people who do!?

there attitude was just "Oh well, nothing we can do about it" we then told them how the entire process was a scam and that we were going to fight this and take it up with the state GOP, and left.



The whole thing is a set up guys, they had their delegates selected already , me and Alex didn't even mention Ron Paul's name or discuss any controversial topics like the FED, or the War we just stuck to the basic issues we have in common, low taxes and smaller Govt. This was like getting interviewed for a job but losing the job to someone who didn't even show up for the interview.



I now see first hand that the GOP is run by criminals at every level, from the local level all the way to the top! I am even more determined to take over the GOP now THEY ARE DOING DEVIOUS THINGS LIKE THIS ALL OVER THE NATION AND WE CANT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS! you guys cant be arm chair activist, we have to get more involved with our local GOPs and kick these neo-cons the hell out!! people say"why bother the system won't change" Well I say it will change if you stop bitching and CHANGE IT!


I am ashamed of the ron paul people here in my area there are almost 600 people between both S.

Florida meetup groups and maybe only about 25 of those people really bust their ass and sacrifice for the revolution and freedom! they scream about the revolution and change but in the end that's all they are a bunch of bitch ass cheer leaders who talk the talk but wont walk the walk!


wake up people!! don't wait for someone else to fight for change and to make a difference. FOR THERE TO BE REALLY RADICAL CHANGE WE NEED EVERYONE IN THIS MOVEMENT TO RISE UP AND START WALKING THE WALK! because we enough people who just talk the talk.

 

[TER]

 

[torchbearer]

Fist Let me say that today for the first time in my life, I have truly seen corruption up close and have personally felt it's sting.



I applied to become a delegate here in Florida and I was told that there would be 3 delegates and 3 alternates chosen from each congressional district to go to the National convention, 6 in total.


ok, so I go to my so called congressional caucus to find out that the delegates are not voted on by the republican voters of the district but they are chosen by a selection committee, that is not a caucus but I still go on with the process.



I go into a room with up to 8 people who are sitting in front of me and staring at me as if it were a trail or a parole hearing and they ask me "why I want to be become a delegate?" so I give them them my little speech as to why, then they thank me and I leave the room.



Now I don't know how many people in my district applied to be delegates but only THREE OF US SHOWED UP TO GO BEFORE THE SELECTION COMMITTEE

now I'm thinking "there are only 3 delegate spots and 3 alternate spots and only 3 of us showed up, 2 ron paul people and and 1 mccain person, they have to pick us!" after they interviewed all 3 of us they deliberated for about 15 mins and after just 15 min. they came back with the names of the 3 delegates and 3 alternates.



I thought for sure me and buddy would be picked because no one else bothered to show up! but to my surprise they had picked people who were not even there!! WE WERE SHOCKED!! my Buddy Alex asked them? "how WE! who showed up not be chosen but those who stay home get chosen?" there answer was" Individuals who applied to become delegates didn't have to show up to the so called caucus" Our mouths dropped to the floor! we told them first why weren't we told that? we were told that if you wanted to be selected you had to show up, and 2nd how can someone who doesn't even bother showing up get preference over people who do!?

there attitude was just "Oh well, nothing we can do about it" we then told them how the entire process was a scam and that we were going to fight this and take it up with the state GOP, and left.



The whole thing is a set up guys, they had their delegates selected already , me and Alex didn't even mention Ron Paul's name or discuss any controversial topics like the FED, or the War we just stuck to the basic issues we have in common, low taxes and smaller Govt. This was like getting interviewed for a job but losing the job to someone who didn't even show up for the interview.



I now see first hand that the GOP is run by criminals at every level, from the local level all the way to the top! I am even more determined to take over the GOP now THEY ARE DOING DEVIOUS THINGS LIKE THIS ALL OVER THE NATION AND WE CANT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS! you guys cant be arm chair activist, we have to get more involved with our local GOPs and kick these neo-cons the hell out!! people say"why bother the system won't change" Well I say it will change if you stop bitching and CHANGE IT!


I am ashamed of the ron paul people here in my area there are almost 600 people between both S.

Florida meetup groups and maybe only about 25 of those people really bust their ass and sacrifice for the revolution and freedom! they scream about the revolution and change but in the end that's all they are a bunch of bitch ass cheer leaders who talk the talk but wont walk the walk!


wake up people!! don't wait for someone else to fight for change and to make a difference. FOR THERE TO BE REALLY RADICAL CHANGE WE NEED EVERYONE IN THIS MOVEMENT TO RISE UP AND START WALKING THE WALK! because we enough people who just talk the talk.

Welcome to the club.
Now channel that anger and frustration, find revenge in taking their positions from them. They are most likely elected positions.
Spend every waking hour trying to get them out of their local positions. That is the only thing that will ensure fair elections.
If they won't move from their offices after a fair vote, [redacted by moderator]
The other neocons will get the message.
This shit isn't funny anymore... and if they don't allow the peaceful revolution to happen, the make a violent one unavoidable.

 

[Ladiliberty]

REC is an ELECTED by the PEOPLE Position!

Every 4 years on a presidential election year the REC wannabe files with the state SOE on june 16-june 20th to be captain of your precinct for the august election.... Then you work your precinct of all republicans going door to door. Then in August election you will be on the ballot and your precinct friends and neighbors will elect you to your 4 year post! In december the new precinct members will vote in a new board of directors.

In 2012 YOU WILL THEN BE THE ONES PICKING THE DELEGATES!

These dates are for Florida but anyone in another state can do the same.If you need help IM me...And please spread the word to your RP group! Ron Paul gave us a perfectly timed means of which to gain majority, lets not blow it... It only happens once every 4 years...

 

[Ladiliberty]

Rec Membership Drive!

June 16th-june 20th 2008 file your notarized form with the supervisor of elections in your county. You can't lose! This opportunity only occurs every 4 years... Be the ones to pick the delegates in 2012! Don't miss this opportunity it may be the only way to gain majority vote!


WWW.AMERICANPOLICY.ORG


Revolution Takes Time and Planning WE'VE ONLY JUST BEGUN

It is now obvious that Rep. Ron Paul will not be elected President of the United States in November 2008. There are those who have predicted that the Republic will die if Paul is not occupying the White House next January. A dire prediction, most certainly overstated, but considering the candidates left in the offering, it can be said with equal certainty that the Republic is going to be severely damaged by the next administration.
Rather than throw ourselves in a fetal position and wait for Armageddon, now is the time to make some concrete, long term plans to assure we can elect the next Ron -£auL That, in fact, is exactly what Rep. Paul had in mind when he started his campaign in the first place.
Without getting involved in the dynamics of party politics and the Herculean task involved in gaining control of a national party, let me offer three ideas that the average Ron Paul true believer can do right there on the local level. First, every true believer in the Ron Paul Revolution must understand exactly what it is we are revolting over and then begin to control the debate.




By Tom DeWeese
We should make sure that the other side does not dictate the way issues are framed. Today, Clinton/Obama/ McCain gives us a false choice - they call it security. Security from terrorism; security from the unknown such as the dips and spins of uncontrolled free markets; security through free universal health care and so forth.
In fact, the real debate is a choice of freedom vs. control. National IDs won't protect us against terrorism or illegal immigration. It is never safer to lock ourselves in a cell. The illegals should feel the heat for their actions -not average, law abiding Americans. Controlling our borders isn't racism; it's about the rule of law. Just because someone announces a new program to "protect the environment" doesn't mean it's true. Government control of the economy is not a good thing
- ever. And there is nothing patriotic about the Patriot Act. The average American wants freedom - if he understands what it is. And he doesn't want government intervention into daily life. Eighty percent of the American people oppose amnesty for illegal aliens.


The same numbers are vitally concerned about the Supreme Court decision on eminent domain. But so many of these core issues have either been ignored in the political debate or they are being whitewashed as protection policy. We have to change that perception and we can't sell our revolution until we do.
Second: One has to plan for a revolution five years in advance - not five months before an election. One of the reasons Ron Paul's campaign did not catch on is because the media marginalized him from the start. They called him fringe, long shot or maverick. And they said it over and over. While the true believers called it censorship and insisted that Ron Paul had more support than the media reported, the fact is, when the votes were counted he became a five percenter - just as the media had predicted. As that happened in primary after primary, Paul was ever more dismissed.
However, had he surged in the
polls and dominated in the primaries -just like Obama - the media would have been forced to report it and the revolution would have caught on, whether they liked it or not. How to make that happen? Start now for the next time.
While so many are lamenting that the Republic is dead, we are ignoring the very silver bullet that the Founding Fathers provided to assure a Republic everlasting by making government at the local level the most powerful force. The silver bullet is still there, rusting in the dust from lack of use.
The silver bullet is precinct captain. You scoff? You were hoping for something more exciting? Well, that's probably the very reason we've ignored it. We would much rather turn our attention to Washington, Congress or presidential campaigns. Frankly that's the very reason why those offices are so much more powerful than they are supposed to be - because we' ve let them become so by placing all of our attention on them while ignoring local organization and involvement in government.
But the power still lies in the precinct captain. Our opponents know it. They have left no lowly office untouched. Every office has power to impose policy, even dogcatcher, city treasurer and city clerk. The people who collect taxes and issue permits control building, development and how private property is treated. Start there and then move up to city council and mayor.
How important are these local offices? Consider this. Justtwo years ago the United Nations held a major conference in San Francisco on a policy called Sustainable Development. This is a policy of top-down government control that eliminates private property rights, makes limited government impossible and promotes the establishment of non-elected regional government to impose it - in short - everything Ron Paul's revolution is supposed to stop.
At the UN conference the main targets were the mayors. Those who attended were asked to sign two documents in Which the mayors pledged to undertake 21 action items over the next few years to implement Sustainable Development. These action items include water policy, energy policy, transportation and health. They were provided sample legislation and pledged to enact it.
Our enemies know that the power to impose this tyranny on us is now at the local level. And that's where they are concentrating their efforts. So it will do little good to spend time trying to stop them through Congress or the White House.
What does the UN understand that you and I don't? That it doesn't matter what Washington policy is, they will just get the local communities to do it - because the towns and cities have the power to decide for themselves. That's how the Founding Fathers intended it.
Think globally act locally is not just a slogan. It's an agenda. It's been used against us to diminish our freedom because we have neglected it. Now, to save our Republic and way of life we need to make it our agenda.

How to get started? Make a chart of every single elected position available in your county. Break it down to the precinct level and then to the ward level. List every office, every board position, and every neighborhood precinct position. Now you will begin to see how large a task it is. But take it one step at a time and start to fill those spots.
You need to find a leader for every neighborhood or precinct who will carry literature, make phone calls and turn out voters on Election Day. One of the most common reasons people gave for not voting for Ron Paul is that they never heard of him. A good precinct captain can make sure that never happens again.

Now, as you are organizing the precincts, use that now found network to begin to elect revolution-minded candidates for the local offices. Work quietly. Please don't hold a news conference to announce to the community that you intend to take it over. Work through whatever party you want - even the Democrats, the goal is to get 10 people, who support the principles of the Ron Paul Revolution, into places of decision making. It would be a dream to have candidates from every party running on the same issues. It's a goal to shoot for. The other side seems to have achieved it.
Take over a precinct -just one. You will control the election of every candidate at every level - at least in your part of the city. Then organize a second precinct, and so on. You will need the precinct worker to make sure voters get to the polls. You will need poll watchers to make sure our votes are counted. Plan your work, work your plan and make our issues the ones people care about. It's hard work, but that's how a real revolution wins.
Third, pay attention to non-elected review Boards, policy committees and planning commissions. Can you get one of your people on it? Who is doing the appointing? Get on the board and control policy - or better yet, make moves to abolish the board as unnecessary or unconstitutional. And don't stop there.
You need to have the ability to create controversy against policies by current office holders. This will help you find like-minded folks to join you. And it will help create public debates on issues so your candidates can address them and win. Remember, most people would oppose many of these policies if they knew anything about them. Tell them.

 

[Matt Collins]

Where in Florida do you live?