Llepard Supports Murray Sabrin for Senate, you should too.

I hope llepard uses his money to run ads for murray in all the NJ papers
he has already done plenty for RP, but it would be great, and easier to cover 1 state
 
Please notify your meetups and myspace/facebook friends. We desperately need this man in the Senate.
 
If you believe in the Freedom messagee and have the means I strongly believe that Dr. Sabrin deserves your support.

Money wasted. There are two major problems with Sabrin's campaign:

1) He's running a ridiculously un-Paulian negative campaign that has turned off almost all of NJ's GOP regulars. He cannot win a Republican primary in NJ without the support of some of these people.

2) He has pledged to resign from the Senate if the troops are in Iraq after 2010. That means, that if after ONE YEAR in office, even if he has relentlessly advocated for the change we seek, even if he has done a lot to help, he will resign, unless the rest of Congress (or at least 40% of the Senate) agree with him. Leaving NJ with a Jon Corzine appointee to represent us instead of a Ron Paul republican.

Fatal Flaws.

I have withdrawn my support from Dr. Sabrin's campaign for these reasons and will most likely be voting for a third-party candidate OR abstaining in this election.
 
it wasn't just any old advertisements you ran... it was THE BEST personally funded advertisement that i saw (although, i do love the mosaic, but i mean actual articles)

anyone who didn't see "an open letter to the american people" needs to read it ASAP
 
1) He's running a ridiculously un-Paulian negative campaign that has turned off almost all of NJ's GOP regulars. He cannot win a Republican primary in NJ without the support of some of these people.

Aggressive campaigns based on TRUTH are not negative, they are simply truthful.
And if you can find someone that is better on another ticket in NJ, then knock yourself out. Murray has my vote because he shares my ideals, and that is ALL that matters.

No disrespect to the good Dr, but he could learn a few things from the Sabrin campaign; sometimes the gloves have to come off, otherwise you are simply too easy to ignore. Murray has already given one of his opponents a stroke, she dropped out, and all but destroyed Jersey Joe, who will drop out shortly.
The latest in the parade of tools the Reps have trotted out has enough skeletons in his closet to fill a cemetery.
The jerkoff the dems are putting up has a long track record of supporting the war in Iraq.

The fact is, there are more indies in NJ than dems and reps combined. The war and economy are the only things on the minds of voters, and only Murray has the right answers.
 
Aggressive campaigns based on TRUTH are not negative, they are simply truthful.
Attacking Ununue for owning a nightclub and calling him a playboy, and calling county chairmen by schoolyard insult nick-names is NOT an aggressive campaign based on TRUTH. It is divisive and it alienates him from the people who will ultimately choose a candidate.

And if you can find someone that is better on another ticket in NJ, then knock yourself out. Murray has my vote because he shares my ideals, and that is ALL that matters.
He shares my ideals, but he gives them a bad name with the way he is campaigning. He is a caricature of every insult people have for Ron Paul supporters.

No disrespect to the good Dr, but he could learn a few things from the Sabrin campaign; sometimes the gloves have to come off, otherwise you are simply too easy to ignore.
The gloves did come off. Watch Paul's CPAC speech. That was the way to do it. Fight your campaign ON THE ISSUES. Sabrin is launching ad hominem attacks and making childish demands that just about everyone in the party resign. You need to WIN an election BEFORE you have enough clout to ask for someone's job.

Murray has already given one of his opponents a stroke, she dropped out, and all but destroyed Jersey Joe, who will drop out shortly.
Pennacchio is still polling higher than Sabrin. What destroyed Jersey Joe was Ununue and Crowley getting in the race. And BTW, Estabrook REALLY DID have a stroke. No joke. Really. She did. Sabrin didn't cause it either.

The fact is, there are more indies in NJ than dems and reps combined. The war and economy are the only things on the minds of voters, and only Murray has the right answers.

Ok, Great. There are more independents. Independents don't come out in droves for REPUBLICAN primaries. You have to win with the REPUBLICANS if you want to win a REPUBLICAN primary. The "indies" don't matter until you have the nomination.
 
Money wasted. There are two major problems with Sabrin's campaign:

1) He's running a ridiculously un-Paulian negative campaign that has turned off almost all of NJ's GOP regulars. He cannot win a Republican primary in NJ without the support of some of these people.

2) He has pledged to resign from the Senate if the troops are in Iraq after 2010. That means, that if after ONE YEAR in office, even if he has relentlessly advocated for the change we seek, even if he has done a lot to help, he will resign, unless the rest of Congress (or at least 40% of the Senate) agree with him. Leaving NJ with a Jon Corzine appointee to represent us instead of a Ron Paul republican.

Fatal Flaws.

I have withdrawn my support from Dr. Sabrin's campaign for these reasons and will most likely be voting for a third-party candidate OR abstaining in this election.

You can still vote for him in the Primery. And then if he doesn't win, abstain.

The way I see it. Paul's Gentalmanly aproch didn't work. It's time to try a new tactic and try to reach the type of people that hears things in this manner this time.


Tracy
 
You can still vote for him in the Primery. And then if he doesn't win, abstain.

I hope I explained why I cannot vote for him in the primary (he promised to quit on me). I prefer that my congressional representation be committed to representing me, rather than quitting in a hissy fit over a single issue.

You don't quit the war because you lose one battle. If they had that attitude during the revolution, we'd all still be spelling color with a "U".

The way I see it. Paul's Gentalmanly aproch didn't work. It's time to try a new tactic and try to reach the type of people that hears things in this manner this time.

The way I see it, Ron Paul's approach DID work. Look at what his approach spawned. You're posting on it now. People who never would've gotten behind his message otherwise, were receptive to it because of his demeanor. They respected him because he represented honesty, principle and most importantly: professionalism.

Nonetheless, if you DO run a negative campaign you have to run it right. Look at how Hillary does it: she'll smile and complement Obama on stage at a debate, and "leak" the negatives later on. You can't go out there like a pit-bull non-stop.

Sabrin has built a bad reputation for himself in the NJ GOP. There is no way he can get the nomination, and frankly, I don't want him to.

There is still time left though, if someone who is from NJ wants to get in the race. I will fully back a Ron Paul republican who promises to run a clean campaign, and I will do everything I can to aid them.
 
You can still vote for him in the Primery. And then if he doesn't win, abstain.

The way I see it. Paul's Gentalmanly aproch didn't work. It's time to try a new tactic and try to reach the type of people that hears things in this manner this time.

I think it is better to support Sabrin than not, but if you cannot get excited about Sabrin, find something else to do. Lord knows there is more than enough work for everyone.

I think Paul's gentlemanly approach is the only reason we could not be completely dismissed as nuts. Look what happened to Mike Gravel. He was the "tough guy," and people thought he was crazy. If Ron Paul had not been a gentleman, he never would have gotten as far as he had.
 
I hope I explained why I cannot vote for him in the primary (he promised to quit on me). I prefer that my congressional representation be committed to representing me, rather than quitting in a hissy fit over a single issue.

You don't quit the war because you lose one battle. If they had that attitude during the revolution, we'd all still be spelling color with a "U".



The way I see it, Ron Paul's approach DID work. Look at what his approach spawned. You're posting on it now. People who never would've gotten behind his message otherwise, were receptive to it because of his demeanor. They respected him because he represented honesty, principle and most importantly: professionalism.

Nonetheless, if you DO run a negative campaign you have to run it right. Look at how Hillary does it: she'll smile and complement Obama on stage at a debate, and "leak" the negatives later on. You can't go out there like a pit-bull non-stop.

Sabrin has built a bad reputation for himself in the NJ GOP. There is no way he can get the nomination, and frankly, I don't want him to.

There is still time left though, if someone who is from NJ wants to get in the race. I will fully back a Ron Paul republican who promises to run a clean campaign, and I will do everything I can to aid them.

You would do well to use your energy to support a candidate that you approve of, rather than trying to tear down those that you do not approve of.
Positive campaigns, remember.
Your negativity is of NO use to any of us here, so start your own thread titled "Sabrin Stinks" and do what you want, otherwise piss off.
 
Good god people, this is a New Jersey race we're talking about. People in Jersey just don't play well with others. Actually I thought the PolitickerNJ.com cartoon was hilarious too...Murray makes Ron Paul cry... If this was any other candidate other than Murray we wouldn't be hearing about this at all. NJ politics aren't for the weak...can't handle it? Move to one of those warm and fuzzy states...like New York.

I firmly stand in Murray's camp! He'll bring meaning to Jersey's motto of "Liberty and Prosperity"
 
You would do well to use your energy to support a candidate that you approve of, rather than trying to tear down those that you do not approve of.
Positive campaigns, remember.
Your negativity is of NO use to any of us here, so start your own thread titled "Sabrin Stinks" and do what you want, otherwise piss off.

Since I AM ACTUALLY A NJ RESIDENT, the matter of ACTUALLY HAVING A SENATOR to represent me is kind of IMPORTANT TO ME.

So why don't the rest of you piss off and leave NJ alone, rather than trying to force a quitter on us.

Good god people, this is a New Jersey race we're talking about. People in Jersey just don't play well with others.
And right now, none of the New Jersey Republicans are playing well with Murray. He's going to lose the primary because he hasn't endeared himself to the very voters he's seeking the support of.

I firmly stand in Murray's camp! He'll bring meaning to Jersey's motto of "Liberty and Prosperity"
Yeah, he'll bring meaning to it, for a year. Then, when President McCain still has troops in Iraq, he's going to pack it up and go home. Meanwhile, Governor Corzine will appoint another Bob Menendez to bring you more "Authority and Poverty."

Enjoy.
 
Question

Brian,

Who will you be voting for in the NJ U.S. Senate race primary, if not Murray Sabrin? One of the candidates who supports an interventionist foreign policy? The deadline has passed for new candidates to enter the race.
 
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Take no prisoners Dr. Sabrin!
 
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Take no prisoners Dr. Sabrin!

:eek: methinks a w00t for Cowlsey is in order :)
 
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