*LIVE STREAM* Rand Paul to end Patriot Act - Sunday 4pm EST

[r3volution 3.0]

Then how does any bill ever get voted on? It seems it would be virtually impossible.

It's not that you need unanimous consent to bring on a vote.

It's that you need unanimous consent to skip the lengthy debate period that must occur before the vote.

So one senator can a delay a vote for a while, but not forever.

 

[politics]

Since the vote next week will essentially be to reinstate the Patriot Act, does that mean that the house will have to vote on the USA Freedom Act again as well?

That is an interesting question.

Freedom act already went through The House, but, as the senate blocked it, shouldn't The House also be part of the new discussion?

 

[anaconda]

They need unanimous consent in order to bring it to a vote *now*. The bill can come up for a vote after 30 hours without unanimous consent.

Wow. Didn't know that. I appreciate your taking the time to enlighten me. Thanks!

 

[anaconda]

With respect to twomp's concern, wouldn't it have been worth a shot to see if there might have been the potential (with all of the publicity over this) for public blow back and maybe losing the necessary votes before the "final" vote? But that would probably be too many to expect.

 

[anaconda]

That is an interesting question.

Freedom act already went through The House, but, as the senate blocked it, shouldn't The House also be part of the new discussion?

Why would they if the bill isn't amended? Guess I need a PoliSci 1 class at the community college.

 

[The Northbreather]

 

[JJ2]

Wow. Didn't know that. I appreciate your taking the time to enlighten me. Thanks!

I remember in 2011 when Boehner et al were breaking their promises to cut spending and were minutes away from a budget lapse/government shutdown, I was upset with Ron for allowing unanimous consent instead of shutting down the government, lol.

 

[JJ2]

“I’m not going to take it anymore,” he added. “I don’t think the American people are going to take it anymore.”

Somebody needs to incorporate this classic hit song with the above quote and/or the campaign:

 

[politics]

Why would they if the bill isn't amended? Guess I need a PoliSci 1 class at the community college.

The Senate will vote next to end debate on the House bill on Tuesday, as well as amendments intended to make it more palatable to Senate hawks. Those will likely extend a transition period to the new bill beyond six months and require additional certifications to the reformed data collection program.
Until then, three surveillance authorities will be nullified. And the House will still have to reconcile with the Senate over any changes later this week.

If the Senate passes anything other than the USA Freedom Act, the House will have to greenlight it as well. House lawmakers return to Washington on Monday evening and will have to decide if any changes made by McConnell are acceptable.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/mitch-mcconnell-nsa-patriot-act-surveillance-118453.html

 

[jurgs01]

https://www.facebook.com/candidates4libertydotcom/posts/392326864286155

 

[Created4]

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/mitch-mcconnell-nsa-patriot-act-surveillance-118453.html

If the Senate passes anything other than the USA Freedom Act, the House will have to greenlight it as well. House lawmakers return to Washington on Monday evening and will have to decide if any changes made by McConnell are acceptable.

This is good. The fight is just beginning. The House will basically start over now, since the Patriot Act is now out of the way. Many of the concessions made in the House on the Freedom Act were because it was "better than" the Patriot Act.

So begins round 2, the fight over the Amendments....

 

[francisco]

This is good. The fight is just beginning. The House will basically start over now, since the Patriot Act is now out of the way. Many of the concessions made in the House on the Freedom Act were because it was "better than" the Patriot Act.

So begins round 2, the fight over the Amendments....

I don't think that the House is going to just roll over and play dead with whatever amended version the Senate sends back to them. This could be the beginning of a protracted back-and-forth. And, the longer we go without a replacement for the expired provisions of the so-called Patriot Act, without the world coming to an end, the more likely it becomes that those provisions are replaced by...nothing.

 

[anaconda]

I don't think that the House is going to just roll over and play dead with whatever amended version the Senate sends back to them. This could be the beginning of a protracted back-and-forth. And, the longer we go without a replacement for the expired provisions of the so-called Patriot Act, without the world coming to an end, the more likely it becomes that those provisions are replaced by...nothing.

I'm definitely missing something here...didn't Mitch just totally screw himself by amending the bill instead of passing it? Now he may get nothing. No? Why does he think that the House will rubber stamp his amendment?

Also: Can we have a news interview with Mitch and ask him which lobbyists wrote his amendment?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I don't think that the House is going to just roll over and play dead with whatever amended version the Senate sends back to them. This could be the beginning of a protracted back-and-forth. And, the longer we go without a replacement for the expired provisions of the so-called Patriot Act, without the world coming to an end, the more likely it becomes that those provisions are replaced by...nothing.

Bingo

Right about now, McCain and Graham in the their underwater volcano lair must be all...

 

[Crashland]

I'm definitely missing something here...didn't Mitch just totally screw himself by amending the bill instead of passing it? Now he may get nothing. No? Why does he think that the House will rubber stamp his amendment?

Also: Can we have a news interview with Mitch and ask him which lobbyists wrote his amendment?

Yeah, amending it does come with some risk of further delay, but maybe since it's already delayed past the deadline he sees an opportunity. It did overwhelmingly pass the House so it has a good chance of passing again with some tweaks. Although, if it is McConnell's amendments and not Rand's amendments, I think they may be taking the bill in the wrong direction.

 

[anaconda]

Bingo

Right about now, McCain and Graham in the their underwater volcano lair must be all...

At first I read this as "McCain and Graham in their underwear.." Not sure how my mind went there..

 

[francisco]

At first I read this as "McCain and Graham in their underwear.." Not sure how my mind went there..

Mindbleach needed now

 

[tsai3904]

I'm definitely missing something here...didn't Mitch just totally screw himself by amending the bill instead of passing it? Now he may get nothing. No? Why does he think that the House will rubber stamp his amendment?

McConnell didn't amend the bill. He filled the amendment tree. It's a procedural tactic to block other Senators from offering amendments and only his amendments can be voted on. His amendments probably won't pass and the Senate will likely pass the bill unamended.

 

[anaconda]

McConnell didn't amend the bill. He filled the amendment tree. It's a procedural tactic to block other Senators from offering amendments and only his amendments can be voted on. His amendments probably won't pass and the Senate will likely pass the bill unamended.

Ah! Interesting. Thanks!

 

[Occam's Banana]

At first I read this as "McCain and Graham in their underwear.." Not sure how my mind went there..

Mindbleach needed now

And now you're gonna need some eyebleach, too ...