List of Liberty-minded Candidates for US Congress (2014)

[RonPaul25]

also half of these people have zero chance of winning, we need to spend on candidates who can actually win, even if there are only a few, otherwise we are throwing away money

 

[ican'tvote]

also half of these people have zero chance of winning, we need to spend on candidates who can actually win, even if there are only a few, otherwise we are throwing away money

These lists are useful for people who live in these areas and are unsure who to vote for.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

How are you coming at these stars? The goal of the list is to create awareness of solid pro-civil liberties, fiscally responsible and principled candidates. Not to create a Tea/Liberty list. I have decided to add Griffith, Gosar, etc but unless you clarify the inclusion of Gibson, Ribble, etc I won't add them.

See my blog.

 

[compromise]

How are you coming at these stars? The goal of the list is to create awareness of solid pro-civil liberties, fiscally responsible and principled candidates. Not to create a Tea/Liberty list. I have decided to add Griffith, Gosar, etc but unless you clarify the inclusion of Gibson, Ribble, etc I won't add them.

Ribble:
http://wi.rlc.org/2011/12/rlc-wi-praises-ribble-for-defending-liberties/
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...artisan-group-in-calling-for-cuts-to-Pentagon

Gibson:
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-acti...ber-proposes-fix-to-detainee-language-in-ndaa
http://www.examiner.com/article/ny-...g-republicans-to-reject-patriot-act-extension

Btw, Gurley Martin has confirmed he's running, he's not speculative any more.

 

[ProvincialPeasant]

I think it's more important to swallow some of the anti-establishment conservatives already in the House (i.e. the ones who voted against Boehner, fiscal cliff, etc.). This way we can massively increase the liberty influence in the House, and also do so immediately.

Also, liberty candidates in red districts should be desirable. Most liberty candidates cannot beat Democrats in even districts because they are used to battling within the GOP and have disdain for being a polished politician. Also, RP endorsements should not be important. We HAVE to get people who aren't involved with RP to vote against NDAA. There is a lot of potential for this if we don't insist on prostrations before the liberty movement, but rather philosophical agreement (i.e. in the case of Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, both of whom are constitutionalists not from the liberty movement strictly-speaking).

 

[compromise]

I think it's more important to swallow some of the anti-establishment conservatives already in the House (i.e. the ones who voted against Boehner, fiscal cliff, etc.). This way we can massively increase the liberty influence in the House, and also do so immediately.

Also, liberty candidates in red districts should be desirable. Most liberty candidates cannot beat Democrats in even districts because they are used to battling within the GOP and have disdain for being a polished politician. Also, RP endorsements should not be important. We HAVE to get people who aren't involved with RP to vote against NDAA. There is a lot of potential for this if we don't insist on prostrations before the liberty movement, but rather philosophical agreement (i.e. in the case of Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, both of whom are constitutionalists not from the liberty movement strictly-speaking).

Cruz and Lee may not have been from the liberty movement, but they certainly were supported by the liberty movement and it's leaders from the start. Lee was endorsed by Ron and Cruz was endorsed by Ron, Rand and Amash.

 

[SpreadOfLiberty]

If you can get somebody who agrees with you on economics and domestic issues, civil liberties, and at least some of the same foreign policy they are worth supporting.

 

[compromise]

How are you coming at these stars? The goal of the list is to create awareness of solid pro-civil liberties, fiscally responsible and principled candidates. Not to create a Tea/Liberty list. I have decided to add Griffith, Gosar, etc but unless you clarify the inclusion of Gibson, Ribble, etc I won't add them.

Mia Love was listed as a liberty candidate by Reason:
http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/22/libertarianish-candidates/1

Why is Weber 3 stars? Massie says he's talked with Weber extensively and is sure he's nothing close to a liberty candidate.

 

[compromise]

Paul Broun confirmed he's running for Senate, so probably good to take him off speculative and also off the House of Representatives part.

Here are a couple of other guys you might consider adding:
Phil Roe - Voted against the Patriot Act in 2011 and NDAA 2012
Michael Fitzpatrick - Voted against the Patriot Act 2011
Trey Gowdy - Voted against NDAA 2012
Todd Rokita - Voted against NDAA 2012
All of the above are considered to be fiscally conservative/Tea.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2011/h932

 

[Smart3]

Paul Broun confirmed he's running for Senate, so probably good to take him off speculative and also off the House of Representatives part.

Here are a couple of other guys you might consider adding:
Phil Roe - Voted against the Patriot Act in 2011 and NDAA 2012
Michael Fitzpatrick - Voted against the Patriot Act 2011
Trey Gowdy - Voted against NDAA 2012
Todd Rokita - Voted against NDAA 2012
All of the above are considered to be fiscally conservative/Tea.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2011/h932

I won't add Fitzpatrick and Rokita due to their affiliation with the Knights of Columbus.

I did add Gowdy, oversight on my part.

With respect to Phil Roe:
" There is no role more critical for the federal government than protecting our nation. The men and women who serve our nation in the armed forces deserve the best we can give them and their families deserve our full support too.

Phil opposed President Obama’s efforts to cut our national missile defense program. He voted to impose tough sanctions on the radical regime of Iran while strongly supporting our closest ally in the Middle East - Israel."

I also see that he's voted pretty much with Cantor on everything except the Patriot Act and NDAA, which earns him perhaps a 1 star.

 

[supermario21]

What is so bad about being affiliated with the KoC?

 

[supermario21]

Also, anyone in Louisiana we could possibly field? Senator Landrieu said yesterday that the country has no spending problem, and the only ones that believe it does watch Fox News...

That's a surefire way to lose reelection in a deep red state, especially when she's never won more than 52% of the vote, even in a Dem wave year like 2006...

 

[Michigan11]

Let's take Kerry Bentivolio off of the list for now, til we see his votes

 

[Smart3]

What is so bad about being affiliated with the KoC?

Fascist organization. You can look into their past on your own. Rick Santorum belongs to it.

Let's take Kerry Bentivolio off of the list for now, til we see his votes

I don't think that is fair. If he continues betraying us then he'll lose a star... and if he continues come primary season, he'll lose another star.

I've dropped him 5 to 4 already. Meaning he is not Paul/Massie/Amash but more Yoho.

 

[american.swan]

Liberty-minded? What does that mean? How many "tea party" candidates like Rubio will we have? If I'm a warmonger neo-con sheep who believes in getting the government out of marriage entirely, I'm I liberty minded? Should we have catigories for candidates.

If a candidate has no prior political experience, than all we're talking about is some sort of unprovable liberty rhetoric.

Everyone on this forum who can should run for some sort of local position, like city council. We need candidates for higher and higher office with voting records.

 

[SpreadOfLiberty]

I don't think there should be a penalty for the debt ceiling vote, personally.

Passing it brings forth debt reductions, despite a temporary increase. Overall though it reduces our burden.

I also understand those that didn't vote for it, but I think the ends can justify the means if the issue is the same.

 

[Spoa]

Fascist organization. You can look into their past on your own. Rick Santorum belongs to it.

Disagree strongly. The Knights of Columbus is a charity organization within the Catholic Church. They do a lot of charity work and hardly get into policy matters (besides what the Catholic Church states: abortion and same-sex marriage are against the Bible, etc). Just because Rick Santorum belongs to it doesn't make it a bad organization.

 

[Spoa]

I don't think that is fair. If he continues betraying us then he'll lose a star... and if he continues come primary season, he'll lose another star.

I've dropped him 5 to 4 already. Meaning he is not Paul/Massie/Amash but more Yoho.

It should be noted that Yoho has voted more with Massie and Amash than Bentivolio has. If Yoho keeps this up, he should receive a promotion to 5 stars.

 

[Smart3]

It should be noted that Yoho has voted more with Massie and Amash than Bentivolio has. If Yoho keeps this up, he should receive a promotion to 5 stars.

I agree.

the KoC are still fascists, even if they do charity. I'm not comfortable with the list being as large as it already is. I wanted a list of just "our guys" (proven liberty candidates).

 

[compromise]

The KoC emblem had a Fasces in it prior to the use of the Fasces by the Fascists. Santorum is not really a fascist either, just an idiot. I don't think being a member of an organization that is not blatantly but is rumored by some to be fascist disqualifies you. People should look at your voting record.