Lindsey Graham comes out against Rand Paul's Kurdistan Idea

[pulp8721]

Interesting discussion last week on Morning Joe, where Scarbourugh acts unintentionally as a Paul surrogate, suggesting that Iraq be split up, and Graham says no we need to keep the country intact.

 

[Kotin]

Only through Syria?? You mean the country you wanted to bomb and probably still do??

 

[surf]

i'll admit that when I saw the abbreviated thread title, "Lindsey Graham comes out..." I giggled.

 

[acptulsa]

Interesting discussion last week on Morning Joe, where Scarbourugh acts unintentionally as a Paul surrogate, suggesting that Iraq be split up, and Graham says no we need to keep the country intact.

That must be so whoever winds up in charge, we can play the Kurds off against him. Can't do that if we give the Kurds the homeland we've been promising them for thirty years.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Oh, the arrogance. Just put me in charge and I'll whip the whole place into shape in no time. The Middle East will be like a new Woodstock, nothing but love, peace, and joy.

 

[anaconda]

i'll admit that when I saw the abbreviated thread title, "Lindsey Graham comes out..." I giggled.

 

[anaconda]

Gee Lindsey borrowed Rand's use of the word "sucks" for national dialog. What a late adopter copycat

 

[DaninPA]

I have to wonder if Graham was put out there by TPTB just to gauge how willing the people are to go along with the ridiculous imperial nation building shit he advocates.

 

[roho76]

What a stubborn little man. The look on his face the whole time was you're stupid and I'm the only one who knows what's going on. Breathe Lindsay, Breathe! On second thought, don't breathe.

 

[anaconda]

I have to wonder if Graham was put out there by TPTB just to gauge how willing the people are to go along with the ridiculous imperial nation building shit he advocates.

Would not surprise me and you're probably correct.

 

[djinwa]

All problems result from insufficient government spending.

 

[Crashland]

Keep Iraq intact? I didn't realize it was.

 

[hells_unicorn]

Interesting discussion last week on Morning Joe, where Scarbourugh acts unintentionally as a Paul surrogate, suggesting that Iraq be split up, and Graham says no we need to keep the country intact.

Iraq as a country is a construct of post-WWI western misunderstanding of the various sectarian groups that were bunched together in the former Ottoman and Persian Empires. Dividing Iraq along racial and religious lines is probably the only way to bring a lasting peace to the country, and while I would argue that Joe Biden was originally right in arguing that it be broken into 3 countries, at the very minimum, Kurdistan should definitely get its own separate homeland, it would accomplish the dual aim of rewarding them for their loyalty to us (which we have not made good on returning the favor), and also punishing the Turks for their blatant support of destabilizing the area for their own petty reasons against both Iran and the Russians.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Interesting discussion last week on Morning Joe, where Scarbourugh acts unintentionally as a Paul surrogate, suggesting that Iraq be split up, and Graham says no we need to keep the country intact.

Keep Iraq intact? I didn't realize it was.

Graham suffers from an acute case of Humpty Dumpty Syndrome. I'm afraid it's terminal ... at least for the people of Iraq ...

 

[Cleaner44]

Oh, the arrogance. Just put me in charge and I'll whip the whole place into shape in no time. The Middle East will be like a new Woodstock, nothing but love, peace, and joy.

I agree. The idea that Lindsey Graham knows how to stabilize foreign nations, if such a thing is even a valid concept, is laughable. If I need advise on how to dress at a gay bar I would ask Lindsey. I really can't think of anything else that he is qualified to solve.

 

[Constitutional Paulicy]

i'll admit that when I saw the abbreviated thread title, "Lindsey Graham comes out..." I giggled.

 

[RabbitMan]

I agree. The idea that Lindsey Graham knows how to stabilize foreign nations, if such a thing is even a valid concept, is laughable.

I'm going to sound contrarian here, but just listening to him as a neutral uninformed person, he sounded like he really knew what he was talking about. He sounded trustworthy, and he stuck to his guns. I foresee Lindsey chipping away at Santorum, Trump and Rubio's bloc of voters and breaking into the mid-high single digits before long. He combines experience, which Rubio lacks, with seriousness, where Trump quagmires. We don't agree with his philosophy, but he is pretty consistent and can speak his mind intelligently.

All that being said, once Joe Scarborough started chiming in, my estimation of his declined quite a bit. I think the same would have been said of Rubio, and I eagerly await that hawkish wing debating with the 'realist' wing on the stage. It really is difficult to call Rand an isolationist with a straight-face when he is lighting the strawman on fire literally 10 feet away from you.

 

[Kilrain]

"I care about making it worse."

Yes, you do, Lindsey. Yes, you do.

 

[jj-]

Lindsey Graham is such a weirdo.

Now that he is exposed more and talking more, one can notice he exudes bad energy.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

I'm going to sound contrarian here, but just listening to him as a neutral uninformed person, he sounded like he really knew what he was talking about. He sounded trustworthy, and he stuck to his guns.

Oh, I agree completely. He sounds really good. He's a good talker. He knows how to use credibility as a trump card: "Look, I've been over there many, many times, and I've been intensely focused on studying this for years,... and you haven't. So there, you know-nothing hack. You want me to start speaking in Iraqi to you to explain how clueless you are?"

I do not want this guy on the debate stage.